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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>venomous99</b> <br /><small>Member # 1917</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,9,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <a href="http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/" target="_blank">http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/</a> <br />gotta love bart...very limited job requirements and you'll make a decent living if you are willing to slave yourself. its very typical to see ppl base 80k but pull in double that in overtime for basic positions. <br />i cant see why most folks dont strive to work at bart if you're limited on job opportunities.<br />if college wasnt for me and/or the job opportunity wasnt as great, id be all over bart.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-03, 09:08 AM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,12,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> BART <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>9cobra7</b> <br /><small>Member # 2812</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,12,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> That's cool, looks like someone can make a living. Shows you that 100k isn't ballin' like it use to be if this job pays that. What inflation?? lol <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,12,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Think about what a BART skilled technician and manager gets paid <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>venomous99</b> <br /><small>Member # 1917</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,13,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> check out transparent california. <br />bart a win win if you choose to have work be most of your life. cant hate on that hustle if its available. <br /><br />some examples.<br />foreworker #1: 92k base, 123k overtime <br />foreworker #2: 93k base, 131k overtime<br />Sr operations : 109k base, 125k overtime<br />service worker: 58k base, 128k overtime.<br />service worker: 61k base, 139k overtime<br />i like this one:<br />elevator worker: 77k base, 158k overtime. <br /><br />straight killing it on OT.<br /><br />these figures i posted dont even account for the total benefits/pension. its fat too.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-03, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NEIGHT</b> <br /><small>Member # 8741</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,13,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Damn, I gotta look into that. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,14,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I like living life outside of work so I hardly work OT and make a decent living off of my BART base pay. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>twisted54</b> <br /><small>Member # 1981</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,19,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> BART janitor made 270k last year... it was on the news last night. He worked 365 days in a row by signing up for extra shifts: <a href="https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/BART-janitor-overtime-270K-pay-employee-salary-10484502.php?client=safari" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/BART-janitor-overtime-270K-pay-employee-salary-10484502.php?client=safari</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,21,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Damn 4K hours 💀 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>*Als50*</b> <br /><small>Member # 6003</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,21,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> No life at all...Probably end up burying his Ass with all that 0t <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AL STOCK</b> <br /><small>Member # 1852</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,22,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by venomous99:<br /><strong> <a href="http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/" target="_blank">http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/</a> <br />gotta love bart...very limited job requirements and you'll make a decent living if you are willing to slave yourself. its very typical to see ppl base 80k but pull in double that in overtime for basic positions. <br />i cant see why most folks dont strive to work at bart if you're limited on job opportunities.<br />if college wasnt for me and/or the job opportunity wasnt as great, id be all over bart. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nice!<br /><br />Hard work pays off, hope he gets to retire soon! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AL STOCK</b> <br /><small>Member # 1852</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,3,22,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by twisted54:<br /><strong> BART janitor made 270k last year... it was on the news last night. He worked 365 days in a row by signing up for extra shifts: <a href="https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/BART-janitor-overtime-270K-pay-employee-salary-10484502.php?client=safari" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/BART-janitor-overtime-270K-pay-employee-salary-10484502.php?client=safari</a> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>venomous99</b> <br /><small>Member # 1917</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,9,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Liang Zhao Zhang <br />this dude cleaning toilets and laughing to the bank(when he has time away from his work). talk about having the freakin drive to work like a mad man. <br /><br />For regular hours he did:<br />1420.73 regular hours<br />24 hours of protected sick leave<br />192 of vacation hours<br />48 hours of holiday hours<br />3.27 of administrative leave<br />For overtime he did:<br />63 hours of "holiday work"<br />1821.53 hours of time and a half (1.5 for regular day off 1).<br />601 hours of double time (2 for regular day off 2) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AL STOCK</b> <br /><small>Member # 1852</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,10,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by venomous99:<br /><strong> Liang Zhao Zhang <br />this dude cleaning toilets and laughing to the bank(when he has time away from his work). talk about having the freakin drive to work like a mad man. <br /><br />For regular hours he did:<br />1420.73 regular hours<br />24 hours of protected sick leave<br />192 of vacation hours<br />48 hours of holiday hours<br />3.27 of administrative leave<br />For overtime he did:<br />63 hours of "holiday work"<br />1821.53 hours of time and a half (1.5 for regular day off 1).<br />601 hours of double time (2 for regular day off 2) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWBACK 67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,10,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> And people wonder why the state is broke. I am not trying to knock the hustle, hard work, long hours to make that much in OT..... But it just goes to show how bad money is managed in public funded programs. Any private owned company would have been broke if they ran their business this way. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,12,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> BART employees are paid by ridership revenue not from state grants or federal grants. That money is strictly for capital improvements not labor. <br /><br />Check your facts and lay off Steve Glazier rhetoric. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>88DroptopGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 2535</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,12,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> $EIU Union$ <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>fredfifty</b> <br /><small>Member # 10320</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,13,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> that transparent ca website isnt all that accurate imo <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>venomous99</b> <br /><small>Member # 1917</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,13,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fredfifty:<br /><strong> that transparent ca website isnt all that accurate imo </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">like how?<br /><br />anyone who is on the transparent ca website wanna share their info so we can see how much theyre making since its public anyways. LOL<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-04, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>*Als50*</b> <br /><small>Member # 6003</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,14,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> People think they "own" BART, but in reality, The Unions do <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWBACK 67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,4,23,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> BART employees are paid by ridership revenue not from state grants or federal grants. That money is strictly for capital improvements not labor. <br /><br />Check your facts and lay off Steve Glazier rhetoric. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/history" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/history</a> <br /> ( Way back in the 1960's )<br /><br /> The voters approved a $792 million bond issue to finance a 71.5 mile high-speed transit system, consisting of 33 stations serving 17 communities in the three counties. The proposal also included another needed transit project: rebuilding 3.5 miles of the San Francisco Municipal Railway. The new line would link muni streetcar lines directly with BART and Market Street stations, and four new Muni stations would be built.<br /><br />The additional cost of the transbay tube -- estimated at $133 million -- was to come from bonds issued by the California Toll Bridge Authority and secured by future Bay Area Bridge revenues. The additional cost of rolling stock, estimated at $71 million, was to be funded primarily from bonds issued against future operating revenues. Thus, the total cost of the system, as of 1962, was projected at $996 million. It would be the largest single public works project ever undertaken in the U.S. by the local citizenry.<br /><br /><br />* BART has and will always require tax revinue to continue running. You can pretend that enough people ride BART to keep it running...... With custodians making over 100k a year, It would have to cost more money to keep up with expenses. As far as I can tell. BART hasn't operated in the black EVER!!!!!!<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/financials" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/financials</a> <br /><br />And now that there's a ton of work that needs to be done..... Who do you think is expected to pay the bill? The taxpayers once again. So in 40+ years of operation, nobody at BART thought to earmark some of the " PROFITS " made to set aside for future repairs that will be needed???? <br /><br />This is why people like myself are tired of seeing Ra-Tards incharge of spending taxpayers money. <br />100 million set aside 30 years ago making an average of 8% over that time would be worth over a billion dollars. <br /><br />Rant over <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-04, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>wilit</b> <br /><small>Member # 3367</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,5,10,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by venomous99:<br /><strong> Liang Zhao Zhang <br />this dude cleaning toilets and laughing to the bank(when he has time away from his work). talk about having the freakin drive to work like a mad man. <br /><br />For regular hours he did:<br />1420.73 regular hours<br />24 hours of protected sick leave<br />192 of vacation hours<br />48 hours of holiday hours<br />3.27 of administrative leave<br />For overtime he did:<br />63 hours of "holiday work"<br />1821.53 hours of time and a half (1.5 for regular day off 1).<br />601 hours of double time (2 for regular day off 2) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think the main problem people have with this is, have you ever been in a BART bathroom? I've never seen a clean one. If this dude is making $270k, is he actually doing something or just milking it? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,5,21,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> BART employees are paid by ridership revenue not from state grants or federal grants. That money is strictly for capital improvements not labor. <br /><br />Check your facts and lay off Steve Glazier rhetoric. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/history" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/history</a> <br /> ( Way back in the 1960's )<br /><br /> The voters approved a $792 million bond issue to finance a 71.5 mile high-speed transit system, consisting of 33 stations serving 17 communities in the three counties. The proposal also included another needed transit project: rebuilding 3.5 miles of the San Francisco Municipal Railway. The new line would link muni streetcar lines directly with BART and Market Street stations, and four new Muni stations would be built.<br /><br />The additional cost of the transbay tube -- estimated at $133 million -- was to come from bonds issued by the California Toll Bridge Authority and secured by future Bay Area Bridge revenues. The additional cost of rolling stock, estimated at $71 million, was to be funded primarily from bonds issued against future operating revenues. Thus, the total cost of the system, as of 1962, was projected at $996 million. It would be the largest single public works project ever undertaken in the U.S. by the local citizenry.<br /><br /><br />* BART has and will always require tax revinue to continue running. You can pretend that enough people ride BART to keep it running...... With custodians making over 100k a year, It would have to cost more money to keep up with expenses. As far as I can tell. BART hasn't operated in the black EVER!!!!!!<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/financials" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/financials</a> <br /><br />And now that there's a ton of work that needs to be done..... Who do you think is expected to pay the bill? The taxpayers once again. So in 40+ years of operation, nobody at BART thought to earmark some of the " PROFITS " made to set aside for future repairs that will be needed???? <br /><br />This is why people like myself are tired of seeing Ra-Tards incharge of spending taxpayers money. <br />100 million set aside 30 years ago making an average of 8% over that time would be worth over a billion dollars. <br /><br />Rant over <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Honestly, can you comprehend? <br /><br />Daily ridership is expected to be 430,000 for 2016. The revenue from those riders pay for labor expenses. <br /><br />BART gets money from the Federal government and from past Bond measures to pay for projects and other capital repairs to the current (failing) infrastructure. <br /><br />The amount of damage and age of the system requires more funding from the counties that BART operates within to make BART more reliable and safer for daily riders - NOT to pay for labor expenses. <br /><br /><br />To make it simple: <br /><br />BART riders fares pay for employees.<br /><br />Federal, State and County bonds pay to replace worn infrastructure and make extend tracks and purchase new vehicles. <br /><br />Do you hate the military too?<br /><br /><br />SEIU ATU and all other Unions <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>lifted150</b> <br /><small>Member # 14217</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,5,21,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by AL STOCK:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by venomous99:<br /><strong> <a href="http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/" target="_blank">http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/02/bart-janitor-making-100k-plus-in-salary-alone-group-says/</a> <br />gotta love bart...very limited job requirements and you'll make a decent living if you are willing to slave yourself. its very typical to see ppl base 80k but pull in double that in overtime for basic positions. <br />i cant see why most folks dont strive to work at bart if you're limited on job opportunities.<br />if college wasnt for me and/or the job opportunity wasnt as great, id be all over bart. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nice!<br /><br />Hard work pays off, hope he gets to retire soon! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Finally we agree! this guy went out and earned it...i hope he can enjoy the money in his retirement years aswell<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-05, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: lifted150 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWBACK 67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,5,22,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> BART employees are paid by ridership revenue not from state grants or federal grants. That money is strictly for capital improvements not labor. <br /><br />Check your facts and lay off Steve Glazier rhetoric. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/history" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/history</a> <br /> ( Way back in the 1960's )<br /><br /> The voters approved a $792 million bond issue to finance a 71.5 mile high-speed transit system, consisting of 33 stations serving 17 communities in the three counties. The proposal also included another needed transit project: rebuilding 3.5 miles of the San Francisco Municipal Railway. The new line would link muni streetcar lines directly with BART and Market Street stations, and four new Muni stations would be built.<br /><br />The additional cost of the transbay tube -- estimated at $133 million -- was to come from bonds issued by the California Toll Bridge Authority and secured by future Bay Area Bridge revenues. The additional cost of rolling stock, estimated at $71 million, was to be funded primarily from bonds issued against future operating revenues. Thus, the total cost of the system, as of 1962, was projected at $996 million. It would be the largest single public works project ever undertaken in the U.S. by the local citizenry.<br /><br /><br />* BART has and will always require tax revinue to continue running. You can pretend that enough people ride BART to keep it running...... With custodians making over 100k a year, It would have to cost more money to keep up with expenses. As far as I can tell. BART hasn't operated in the black EVER!!!!!!<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/financials" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/financials</a> <br /><br />And now that there's a ton of work that needs to be done..... Who do you think is expected to pay the bill? The taxpayers once again. So in 40+ years of operation, nobody at BART thought to earmark some of the " PROFITS " made to set aside for future repairs that will be needed???? <br /><br />This is why people like myself are tired of seeing Ra-Tards incharge of spending taxpayers money. <br />100 million set aside 30 years ago making an average of 8% over that time would be worth over a billion dollars. <br /><br />Rant over <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Honestly, can you comprehend? <br /><br />Daily ridership is expected to be 430,000 for 2016. The revenue from those riders pay for labor expenses. <br /><br />BART gets money from the Federal government and from past Bond measures to pay for projects and other capital repairs to the current (failing) infrastructure. <br /><br />The amount of damage and age of the system requires more funding from the counties that BART operates within to make BART more reliable and safer for daily riders - NOT to pay for labor expenses. <br /><br /><br />To make it simple: <br /><br />BART riders fares pay for employees.<br /><br />Federal, State and County bonds pay to replace worn infrastructure and make extend tracks and purchase new vehicles. <br /><br />Do you hate the military too?<br /><br /><br />SEIU ATU and all other Unions <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No I don't hate the military. <br />Whats the average cost of a ticket to ride bart daily? <br />Do you really think it's ok to make everyone in the state/country pay for this service, when less then 500,000 people are using it? <br />My reading comp is just fine. .... Your lack of understanding how much money is being wasted on this service is the REAL issue here. <br />If BART was ran by a private company, it would have found a way to pay for it's upgrades decades ago, the bathrooms would be clean and janitors would be making janitor wages.....Not 100k a year!!!! <br /><br />I have been on Bart less then 20 times in over 30 years. Lived in the bay my whole life. The service sucks, it's dirty, trains run behind all the time and the Union Demands for more. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br />I know a few people that commute on Bart. If they didn't get money from their job to ride it into SF, they would just drive to work. One finally did transfer to another law firm, took a paycut just to be able to quit having to ride Bart!!!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2016-11-05, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>stanger00</b> <br /><small>Member # 13818</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2016,10,6,7,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by stanger00:<br /><strong> BART employees are paid by ridership revenue not from state grants or federal grants. That money is strictly for capital improvements not labor. <br /><br />Check your facts and lay off Steve Glazier rhetoric. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/history" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/history</a> <br /> ( Way back in the 1960's )<br /><br /> The voters approved a $792 million bond issue to finance a 71.5 mile high-speed transit system, consisting of 33 stations serving 17 communities in the three counties. The proposal also included another needed transit project: rebuilding 3.5 miles of the San Francisco Municipal Railway. The new line would link muni streetcar lines directly with BART and Market Street stations, and four new Muni stations would be built.<br /><br />The additional cost of the transbay tube -- estimated at $133 million -- was to come from bonds issued by the California Toll Bridge Authority and secured by future Bay Area Bridge revenues. The additional cost of rolling stock, estimated at $71 million, was to be funded primarily from bonds issued against future operating revenues. Thus, the total cost of the system, as of 1962, was projected at $996 million. It would be the largest single public works project ever undertaken in the U.S. by the local citizenry.<br /><br /><br />* BART has and will always require tax revinue to continue running. You can pretend that enough people ride BART to keep it running...... With custodians making over 100k a year, It would have to cost more money to keep up with expenses. As far as I can tell. BART hasn't operated in the black EVER!!!!!!<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.bart.gov/about/financials" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/about/financials</a> <br /><br />And now that there's a ton of work that needs to be done..... Who do you think is expected to pay the bill? The taxpayers once again. So in 40+ years of operation, nobody at BART thought to earmark some of the " PROFITS " made to set aside for future repairs that will be needed???? <br /><br />This is why people like myself are tired of seeing Ra-Tards incharge of spending taxpayers money. <br />100 million set aside 30 years ago making an average of 8% over that time would be worth over a billion dollars. <br /><br />Rant over <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Honestly, can you comprehend? <br /><br />Daily ridership is expected to be 430,000 for 2016. The revenue from those riders pay for labor expenses. <br /><br />BART gets money from the Federal government and from past Bond measures to pay for projects and other capital repairs to the current (failing) infrastructure. <br /><br />The amount of damage and age of the system requires more funding from the counties that BART operates within to make BART more reliable and safer for daily riders - NOT to pay for labor expenses. <br /><br /><br />To make it simple: <br /><br />BART riders fares pay for employees.<br /><br />Federal, State and County bonds pay to replace worn infrastructure and make extend tracks and purchase new vehicles. <br /><br />Do you hate the military too?<br /><br /><br />SEIU ATU and all other Unions <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No I don't hate the military. <br />Whats the average cost of a ticket to ride bart daily? <br />Do you really think it's ok to make everyone in the state/country pay for this service, when less then 500,000 people are using it? <br />My reading comp is just fine. .... Your lack of understanding how much money is being wasted on this service is the REAL issue here. <br />If BART was ran by a private company, it would have found a way to pay for it's upgrades decades ago, the bathrooms would be clean and janitors would be making janitor wages.....Not 100k a year!!!! <br /><br />I have been on Bart less then 20 times in over 30 years. Lived in the bay my whole life. The service sucks, it's dirty, trains run behind all the time and the Union Demands for more. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br />I know a few people that commute on Bart. If they didn't get money from their job to ride it into SF, they would just drive to work. One finally did transfer to another law firm, took a paycut just to be able to quit having to ride Bart!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There are no public numbers for average fares in 2016 but in 2015 ridership averaged 423,100 per day and average fares were $3.67. <br /><br />The on-time performance rated at 89.9% for 2015 as well. <br /><br />Source:<br /><a href="http://www.bart.gov/sites/default/files/docs/2016Factsheet_v12.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.bart.gov/sites/default/files/docs/2016Factsheet_v12.pdf</a><br /><br />And you would rather a single CEO of a billion dollar agency to walk around earning tens of millions in base pay plus big bonuses so they could pay janitors a non-living wage? <br /><br />Ok, got it. <br /><br />System service worker (janitor) on their 5th pay scale earn 29.03 per hour and get paid for 2080 hours a year which is around 60k not 100k. For the hazardous materials they are exposed too they should be paying zero medical premiums, IMO. <br /><br />The real issue is that repairs are not working any longer and a complete overhaul is required. <br /><br />That Oakland airport tram is looking like a multi billion dollar mistake but here we are. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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