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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Guys, I just found this out and had to share it. It applies to all of us since we all are using American forums. For the past 7 years the government of the freest people on Earth has been reading all our posts and PMs Entire details from their own secret internal documents here ---- https://theintercept.com/document/2015/07/01/web-forum-exploitation-using-xks/

Highlights

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2116268/pages/web-forum-exploitation-using-xks-p2-normal.gif

"Full take for US web forum servers" This means they rape everything. "Passive" means secretly, with out us ever knowing.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2116268/pages/web-forum-exploitation-using-xks-p3-normal.gif

They take "Posts and private messages". Yup, that sounds like everything.


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2116268/pages/web-forum-exploitation-using-xks-p5-normal.gif

"All Private Messages for a forum". Doesn't sound so private when the government is snooping in with out a warrant or probable cause.

At least the government admits they steal private information from independent American forums. Their documents show big companies willingly hand over a copy of all our communications to the government. Small organizations they just rape.

Big Brother Mass surveillance at its finest

[ 2016-03-25, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
Oh seriously go fuck yourself.

This is how I picture you:



[ 2016-03-25, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: CoyoteMike ]
 

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Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
Op fall through your asshole and hang yourself.

[ 2016-03-25, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: hurting your feelings ]
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
This guy is full of win
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
Welcome to the site🤑
 

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Posted by Built88LX (Member # 10758) on :
 
Can you explain to me in simple terminology how any of the shit you speak about has anything to do with fords that actually pertains to this site cause it all seems like bullshit to me and pretty much every other board member on here as their postings show how they feel about each topic you voice your opinion upon. we all know how big brother(the government) has a hand or eye in practically everything in our lives if you give a damn soo much about what they do go join hands with them and follow suit
 

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Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Our privacy died when the internet was born.

We all knew this except the OP. Thank you for the info, Captain Obvious.


Welcome back CobraRacer46. It was getting a bit boring while you were gone.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Built88LX ---- I agree with you. My approach isn't very good. This doesn't change the content and facts behind my posts. Please look past the style of my approach and judge their contents at face value. I described my position in this post https://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=062804;p=1#000004
My posts in tech talk have to do with fords. My posts in general talk have to do with how to block ads in the youtube vids posted here every day, or posts like this that show you the government secretly steals PMs from message forums on American soil. Forums just like this one! Obviously this applies to all of you. You all use this forum. Don't you want to know if you're being spied on by the very people that claim they're not spying?


phildog ----- I'm not very familiar with cobraracer, but I'm not him. I do like the 2nd amendment. It protects the 1st. To have privacy you don't have to give up the internet. To have privacy you don't have to be less secure. These are fallacies. The internet is a form of communication. The telephone was a form of communication before the internet. Before that was the telegram. Before telegrams were hand written post mail. Why do you claim governments have the right to spy on all these communication mediums? Do you realize when someone spies on all of your communication mediums, it makes you powerless and insignificant? Your thoughts and opinions don't matter. They know what you think, who you talk to, what you're capable of, where you've been, your desires, your weak points, your flaws. Privacy is a new term that is thrown around the internet. In the old days they use to call it Liberty. I am for liberty.
Read the post I linked for Built88LX above and let me know what you think. Maybe you have something to hide?

[ 2016-03-25, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcSlowAhvUk

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the people who say that, who say that privacy isn't really important, they don't actually believe it, and the way you know that they don't actually believe it is that while they say with their words that privacy doesn't matter, with their actions, they take all kinds of steps to safeguard their privacy. They put passwords on their email and their social media accounts, they put locks on their bedroom and bathroom doors, all steps designed to prevent other people from entering what they consider their private realm and knowing what it is that they don't want other people to know.

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There are all sorts of things that we do and think that we're willing to tell our physician or our lawyer or our psychologist or our spouse or our best friend that we would be mortified for the rest of the world to learn. We make judgments every single day about the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we're willing to have other people know, and the kinds of things that we say and think and do that we don't want anyone else to know about.

People can very easily in words claim that they don't value their privacy, but their actions negate the authenticity of that belief.

Now, there's a reason why privacy is so craved universally and instinctively. It isn't just a reflexive movement like breathing air or drinking water. The reason is that when we're in a state where we can be monitored, where we can be watched, our behavior changes dramatically. The range of behavioral options that we consider when we think we're being watched severely reduce. This is just a fact of human nature that has been recognized in social science and in literature and in religion and in virtually every field of discipline. There are dozens of psychological studies that prove that when somebody knows that they might be watched, the behavior they engage in is vastly more conformist and compliant. Human shame is a very powerful motivator, as is the desire to avoid it, and that's the reason why people, when they're in a state of being watched, make decisions not that are the byproduct of their own agency but that are about the expectations that others have of them or the mandates of societal orthodoxy.

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a society in which people can be monitored at all times is a society that breeds conformity and obedience and submission, which is why every tyrant, the most overt to the most subtle, craves that system. Conversely, even more importantly, it is a realm of privacy, the ability to go somewhere where we can think and reason and interact and speak without the judgmental eyes of others being cast upon us, in which creativity and exploration and dissent exclusively reside, and that is the reason why, when we allow a society to exist in which we're subject to constant monitoring, we allow the essence of human freedom to be severely crippled.

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[ 2016-03-25, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
Go fuck yourself with your moms dick
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
Big ol' floppy one
 

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Posted by Marks93 (Member # 11130) on :
 
WOW.....just WOW!

Dude (or gal...whichever), you're heading straight for the funny farm if you don't stop thinking like this....or maybe I'm too late with my evaluation!!

Good grief, enjoy life will ya?
 

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Posted by fiftwyz (Member # 8351) on :
 
Ibtl
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Hi Marks93. I've said a lot. Which part of it don't you agree with? Most of what I said has just been summaries and links to what established journalists have reported on and what leaked secret government documents tell us. Watch the youtube link above if you have time and post your thoughts about it here.

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Posted by theconductor (Member # 13458) on :
 

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Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Oh seriously go fuck yourself.

This is how I picture you:

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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Originally posted by Martinna:
theconductor ---- a tin foil hat implies paranoia. Paranoia is fearfulness over something that may or may not be true. The links above are the governments own secret internal documents that were leaked. The government is secretly stealing and analyzing all USA forum posts and PMs isn't paranoia. It is fact, according the government themselves! The documents show the government is illegally searching and seizing posts and PMs of US citizens with out probable cause. A clear violation of your 4th amendment rights.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
sham wow!!!
 

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Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 

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Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Go fuck yourself with your moms dick

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