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Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on
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Your thoughts?
What would you do if you were pres Obama.
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on
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No boots on the ground
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on
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Lots of UAVs doing work is what I would say
Maybe consistent coverage over all of their territory, and plenty of air strikes ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posted by RAP66 (Member # 3360) on
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Make a new glass factory there
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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First I would arm the Curds & when stop telling them exactly what We aren't willing to do! We also told them the exact night that we were going to start the bombing & that the first night would be the heaviest night of bombing which brings up the question why are we bombing buildings At night when they are empty? Most respected militAry advisors both active and retired have said it will be impossible to win this war without troops on the ground so this ineffective bombing alone will do little to slow these guys down which will undoubtably raise their confidence even more. The main reason we are there is that Obamas poll numbers were so horrible that it was sinking the entire mid term election chances for the Dem's so it was a political move and win or lose will sway a few lemmings into believing Obama gives a shit about anything except for His party staying in power at all cost. I am sure others have their own opinions so please share!
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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You know what I would do , I'd tell all these weak ass punk ass countries with so called armies to police up their own shit. What the hell would you guys do if some foreign fighters airdropped into Oakland? You'd get your boys together grab your Glocks and shotguns and die fighting not sit around crying about how you're too weak to fight some guys in sandals with ak's in pickup trucks. Fuckin weak ass Iraqi army. Look I know it's americas place to assist these nations hell I spent 8 years in the Army but I'm sick and tired of fighting battles that people are to weak or too unwilling to fight themselves! Sorry for the rant seen too many good kids die or get blown up for that shit hole already!
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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^ I have to agree with you on a few points. It is BS that we're always expected to take the lead when it comes to military conflicts. As far as Islam goes. For proclaiming to be the religion of peace..... There sure are a lot of its members who see anyone who's not a Muslim as a threat.
I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children.
Posted by 5.t0es (Member # 5864) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ I have to agree with you on a few points. It is BS that we're always expected to take the lead when it comes to military conflicts. As far as Islam goes. For proclaiming to be the religion of peace..... There sure are a lot of its members who see anyone who's not a Muslim as a threat.
I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children.
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Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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I think we should stop being the world Police and let countries deal with their own problems and only completely destroy a country if they attack us.
Posted by 5.t0es (Member # 5864) on
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
I think we should stop being the world Police and let countries deal with their own problems and only completely destroy a country if they attack us.
define "attack us"
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by 5.t0es:
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
I think we should stop being the world Police and let countries deal with their own problems and only completely destroy a country if they attack us.
define "attack us"
Any attack on us
Posted by 5.t0es (Member # 5864) on
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
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Originally posted by 5.t0es:
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
I think we should stop being the world Police and let countries deal with their own problems and only completely destroy a country if they attack us.
define "attack us"
Any attack on us
They have been doing small attacks on us, and proven they are here as well.
Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on
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911 never forget, buildings fall for no reason
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on
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Problem is when we as country have to engage other country or terrorist groups we have to follow NATO guidelines. When going by the rules of combat are hands are tied behind are backs against people the have no boundaries an have a fucked up views an believes.Intel we stop pussy footing around an show are real might an are cowboy ways.
Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on
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I'm really confused about the quixotic approach Kurds have taken in Turkey. Instead of joining the fight just across the border they have instead begun protesting and causing unrest in Turkey, for the government not doing what they indivdually refuse to do. I wish we could grow beyond all the universalistic religions especially Islam that is directly tied to the state.
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on
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Facts wars are fought because of religion an/or resources.
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
Facts wars are fought because of religion an/or resources.
+1
Little do they know religion is all a bunch of bullshit.
Posted by 5.t0es (Member # 5864) on
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I think its hilarious that I see videos of the US engaging in airstrikes which take out 100s of isis members, yet these clowns go on record and say its not effective....lol,
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on
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Why is it that most all of ISIS's shell casings found to be made in USA??? Fucking sheep.
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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Originally posted by 90GT510:
Why is it that most all of ISIS's shell casings found to be made in USA??? Fucking sheep.
It's not like the Iraqi army was gonna use it
Posted by Bulletsponge (Member # 9529) on
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Originally posted by 90GT510:
Why is it that most all of ISIS's shell casings found to be made in USA??? Fucking sheep.
Your right, we are playing a cat and mouse game where we created the mouse just to hunt it, for fun that is.
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on
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Honestly let them all kill each other, let us worrying about our own problem here, like poverty, unemployment, crime and if push comes to shove and one of these Isis terrorist crosses the line and attacks us on our soil, that's when its time to intervene. I don't believe putting boots on the ground is wise to fight someone else's war but it's also not smart letting these guys gain strength and numbers. I know they say that the atomic bomb is inhumane but at this point how many more innocent people have to lose their lives before we realize that following NATO's rules is getting us nowhere with this terrorist group that his no limits or rules.
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on
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If I was Obama I'd send a bunch of drones in the their hood and externminate them like the cockroaches they are.
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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Originally posted by 5.t0es:
I think its hilarious that I see videos of the US engaging in airstrikes which take out 100s of isis members, yet these clowns go on record and say its not effective....lol,
Your rite in that we may be killing a few hundred here or there but there are like 40,000 of these cockroaches & killing a couple thousand total with tomahawk missiles which cost us a few million each is ineffective!
Posted by 2Foxes2Five0Coupes (Member # 9154) on
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. We should jail their "ambassadors" or "sponsors" like we jail (or threaten to jail) the people who go and fight for them, or individuals who recruit for them or send them "material aid".
Posted by 2Foxes2Five0Coupes (Member # 9154) on
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Originally posted by 2T0NE:
911 never forget, buildings fall for no reason
+1. "new pearl harbor" good reason to go take out governments, "regimes" that don't threaten, would never think of attacking, have no way of militarily defeating the US in any way
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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Info just out today "air strikes are not intended to stop the advance of ISIS from taking more territory" so there U have it this is basically a political move to try to boost the presidents foreign policy #'s before the mid terms. The white house is dening that a group of 10 ISIS members were captured trying to cross the southern border but the border patrol responded with the fact that they just detained another group of 4 ISIS members after the white house denied the first group. I realize these aren't large numbers but how many did it take to kill thousands of us on 9-11? Also doesn't seem like people here are aknowleding the fact that they decapitated 5 Americans and have already named a sixth that will happen soon! These bastards are a threat to Americans!
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
Info just out today "air strikes are not intended to stop the advance of ISIS from taking more territory" so there U have it this is basically a political move to try to boost the presidents foreign policy #'s before the mid terms. The white house is dening that a group of 10 ISIS members were captured trying to cross the southern border but the border patrol responded with the fact that they just detained another group of 4 ISIS members after the white house denied the first group. I realize these aren't large numbers but how many did it take to kill thousands of us on 9-11? Also doesn't seem like people here are aknowleding the fact that they decapitated 5 Americans and have already named a sixth that will happen soon! These bastards are a threat to Americans!
I agree, I watched some videos on the youtube channel "VICE" and they had an interview with an IS member from Canada of all places, saying they have men in place to attack NYC. The threat is real and the govt needs to get their heads out of the sand and realize these guys need to be dealt with a separate set of laws than we're used to following.
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by blackfifty:
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
Info just out today "air strikes are not intended to stop the advance of ISIS from taking more territory" so there U have it this is basically a political move to try to boost the presidents foreign policy #'s before the mid terms. The white house is dening that a group of 10 ISIS members were captured trying to cross the southern border but the border patrol responded with the fact that they just detained another group of 4 ISIS members after the white house denied the first group. I realize these aren't large numbers but how many did it take to kill thousands of us on 9-11? Also doesn't seem like people here are aknowleding the fact that they decapitated 5 Americans and have already named a sixth that will happen soon! These bastards are a threat to Americans!
I agree, I watched some videos on the youtube channel "VICE" and they had an interview with an IS member from Canada of all places, saying they have men in place to attack NYC. The threat is real and the govt needs to get their heads out of the sand and realize these guys need to be dealt with a separate set of laws than we're used to following.
Oh and only 7 rounds of ammo in your guns in New York. I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS member intentionally contract Ebola to spread it thru out the United States.
Our president doesn't want to acknowledge a problem with our borders because it would give motive to finally get serious about building a real secured border. But that would stop the flow of cheap labor, Drugs and soon to be Democrat voters when they become citizens.
Posted by 0089GT (Member # 9996) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ I have to agree with you on a few points. It is BS that we're always expected to take the lead when it comes to military conflicts. As far as Islam goes. For proclaiming to be the religion of peace..... There sure are a lot of its members who see anyone who's not a Muslim as a threat.
I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children.
you cant generalize man
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on
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I think Isis is another b.s propaganda story the U.S made up just to start another war.
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on
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Originally posted by i:
I think Isis is another b.s propaganda story the U.S made up just to start another war.
Can't be then how could Obama an his voters blame Bush then.
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on
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Originally posted by i:
I think Isis is another b.s propaganda story the U.S made up just to start another war.
Some idiots in tents killing themselves like they always have in that shit hole called the middle east.. The U.S.A has the highest military budget in the world. Im pretty sure no one is a threat to the U.S.A unless the government allows it
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on
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Honestly believe than when republicans where in charge, clowns like these were being held in check. Obama wanted to make friends with them now they're making Obama look punk bitch.
When it comes to national security, we gotta be better than these very simple minded people being taken advantage of by marginally smarter group.
I blame it on Obama
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Well we never had Ebola in the USA until Obama was president.
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Well we never had Ebola in the USA until Bush was president.
I fixed for you because as we know nothing is Obama fault.
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Well we never had Ebola in the USA until Bush was president.
I fixed for you because as we know nothing is Obama fault.
Yeah people will blame Bush. I forgot he's still the go to excuse.
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ I have to agree with you on a few points. It is BS that we're always expected to take the lead when it comes to military conflicts. As far as Islam goes. For proclaiming to be the religion of peace..... There sure are a lot of its members who see anyone who's not a Muslim as a threat.
I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children.
If you want to go in details, there are lots of crazy Jews and Christians out in this world, we just don't hear about it because it is all about Muslim. Terrorist exist in all religions, not just Islam.
You are correct when you say "I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children." and in the Quran, in case of war, we can't harm WOMAN, CHILDREN, ELDERLY, AND EVEN A TREE! Under that statement, any terrorism done under Islam, can't be justified. Therefore they are not MUSLIM, Just bunch of F! animals/Terrorist....
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on
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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Sent a link of this ammo to my congressmen to purchase for our military.
MURICA
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Posted by 331SVO (Member # 7376) on
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Doesn't matter what you do in the middle east .we should eliminate Isis using our own troops . The rebels will fight for us and then eventually turn against us just like reagan arming rebels who eventually turned into al-Qaeda . The middle east is a lost cause and a region that we will always have to be policed and regulated . Dammed if you do Dammed if you don't .The Muslim religion dislikes any Christian or western based culture .The Koran allows Radical actions against those who don't believe in it and the anti American culture in the middle east is embedded even with children . It's a lost cause .
Posted by 94 5.0 (Member # 6717) on
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Ever play that game in chuckie cheese, with the big hammer pounding the rodent? Another one just pops up. And so on...
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Muslim religion dislikes any Christian or western based culture .
False
Just a FYI -- You cannot be a Muslim unless you believe in Jesus, so why would Muslims dislike Christians?
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Koran allows Radical actions against those who don't believe in it
False again.
Another FYI -- ISIS are not Muslims, who said they were Muslims? Fox news? CNN?
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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The middle east is a lost cause, fear is the only law there. A good dictator who inspires fear is what is needed, they will never be a nation like ours. Once the oil runs out Saudi Arabia and all those semi-functioning nations will collapse. First they will go after Israel, then they will go after each other.
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
The middle east is a lost cause, fear is the only law there. A good dictator who inspires fear is what is needed, they will never be a nation like ours. Once the oil runs out Saudi Arabia and all those semi-functioning nations will collapse. First they will go after Israel, then they will go after each other.
Pretty much.
[ 2014-10-20, 01:17 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
Posted by 331SVO (Member # 7376) on
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Muslim religion dislikes any Christian or western based culture .
False
Just a FYI -- You cannot be a Muslim unless you believe in Jesus, so why would Muslims dislike Christians?
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Koran allows Radical actions against those who don't believe in it
False again.
Another FYI -- ISIS are not Muslims, who said they were Muslims? Fox news? CNN?
Correct me if I'm wrong but Muslims believe jesus was a prophet not the messiah and both believe their religion was revealed to Mohammad......?
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Muslim religion dislikes any Christian or western based culture .
False
Just a FYI -- You cannot be a Muslim unless you believe in Jesus, so why would Muslims dislike Christians?
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Originally posted by 331SVO:
The Koran allows Radical actions against those who don't believe in it
False again.
Another FYI -- ISIS are not Muslims, who said they were Muslims? Fox news? CNN?
Correct me if I'm wrong but Muslims believe jesus was a prophet not the messiah and both believe their religion was revealed to Mohammad......?
Perfectly explained here ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/faith-and-worship/islamic-creed/475379-why-isnt-prophet-muhammad-called-messiah.html
Hope it helps you understand
[ 2014-10-28, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on
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Whether they're all terrorists or not Muslims do make some bomb ass halal food, like Kabobs, bulani, mantoo.
Posted by FSTRDNU (Member # 12) on
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I don't understand why anyone of any religious beliefs think it's gods will to kill men, women and children. [/qb]
[/QUOTE]you cant generalize man ][/QUOTE]
And "infidels" isn't the mother of all generalizations?
[ 2014-10-28, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: FSTRDNU ]
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