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Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
California smog rules are becoming outrageous... Original owner to a 2004 Roush mustang and it failed because of the air intake not having a carb sticker.

its 100% original and its passed smog several times before with this setup.

Brain dead technician said he's never seen or heard of a Roush mustang before. ( funny part is I've taken the car to this smog station every single year its required and have the receipt from the previous smog requirement ) and cant pass it because its not an original air intake.

After telling him it is the factory air intake, he takes me over to this little laptop and google's "2004 ford mustang 4.6 air intake" and says "this is what you need" I told him to google 2004 roush mustang stage 2 air intake and told him "this is what I have" and he says nope, not California smog legal.

Fucking dead beats running smog stations nowadays, I swear...

Going to a different station from now on.

Rant over.

-
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
 
Posted by theconductor (Member # 13458) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
Did you tell him what the "C" in "CARB" stands for? This guy needs to go!
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
I'm at a loss for words. Sounds like you need to take the car to get smogged elsewhere.
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
I've failed from techs not being able to get enough emission readings from the exhaust. [BS flag]

CARB tightening the Smog noose on older vehicles is one of the top reasons we tell customers to start looking at the new Coyote mustangs.
6 years before your first smog on a new Ford these days. 4 years if you sell it. (you smog when selling a 4 year old car, but not a 3 year old car)
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
Turn him in to the bar he has no business with a smog license. You can make a complaint on a smog technician.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
I had a kind of similiar situation. Been taking my Jeep to this smog guy for years. Have all the receipts and everything. Never had a problem. Took it to him this year and he tells me my check engine light doesn't come on correctly so he wouldn't smog it. I even told him hes smogged this thing for years and never had a problem with it before. He still wouldn't do it so i took it to another shop and all they cared about was that it lights up and then goes off.

[ 2014-10-06, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: Wildfire532FB ]
 
Posted by kast1376 (Member # 8499) on :
 
I smogged my 04 in july and the tech didn't even pop the hood. He asked if I was stock, I said yes.
 
Posted by 95gtdrop (Member # 7478) on :
 
I say turn that fuck head in!

[ 2014-10-06, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: 95gtdrop ]
 
Posted by 1NastyBullitt (Member # 12588) on :
 
The guy sounds like a shmuck. Don't they make you go to school of you want to be a smog tech?
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
Turn him in to the bar he has no business with a smog license. You can make a complaint on a smog technician.
Not the smog tech's fault the blame is on the state if anything doesn't look right fails send to the ref.the state wants us to fail cars.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
An if don't want you car to fail bi-annual smog inspections go take the 200hr course an pass the test an get your need ase's. Then open your own smog shop an never have failed smog again.
 
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
Damn OP that's garbage. That's why I like my old school, no smog ever FTMFW! [patriot] [burnout]
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
I always wonder whats going to happen with all those open filter gt500 when its time to smog. I guess their going to have a hard time lol. Sucks man thats straight bs right there.
 
Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 
The state wants cars to fail. A smog guy I go to told me the state took his star station away because he was passing too many cars. I guess you have to keep a percentage of cars fail at a certain point to stay star. But how can you control how many cars fail lol.

Did you have to pay mike?
 
Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
The tech is using Google to determine if a car's parts are smog legal????????????

I guess when they say everything on the internet is true..then it must be true...LOL!
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
maybe we should have a sticky thread of mustang or modified car smogs stations. not illegal smogs just spots where if you come in with the right stuff there's no issues.
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
We haven't seen nothing yet it's only a matter of time befor the state becomes owner of all smog shops sad part is it's all about $$!!
 
Posted by SVTGhoust (Member # 20) on :
 
I had that happen to me on my 03 Cobra which had a Steeda CAI. A quick trip to the local hotrod store, bought a CARB legal K&N intake which comes with a CARB sticker....slapped the sticker on my Steeda CAI and passed. Afterwards, I returned the K&N intake.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
If I remember right the Roush cold air didn't come black.

[ 2014-10-07, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: hurting your feelings ]
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 97cobra209:
We haven't seen nothing yet it's only a matter of time befor the state becomes owner of all smog shops sad part is it's all about $$!!
To many cars in California for that to happen.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Its just ridiculous. Yeah, I kinda laughed about the whole "using the internet to determine if my car's factory air intake is smog legal or not" but whatever.

anywho, just more headache I have to deal with. Anyone recommend a smog tech in the sacramento area that isn't a Nazi when it comes to an otherwise stock mustang? hahaha
 
Posted by 9cobrasvt8 (Member # 11078) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Its just ridiculous. Yeah, I kinda laughed about the whole "using the internet to determine if my car's factory air intake is smog legal or not" but whatever.

anywho, just more headache I have to deal with. Anyone recommend a smog tech in the sacramento area that isn't a Nazi when it comes to an otherwise stock mustang? hahaha
There is a little hole in the wall place on auburn and twin oaks in citrus heights, only $30 and dude is cool
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
I emailed Roush for shits n gigs. This is their reply:

Michael,


Thanks for contacting ROUSH Performance.

Sorry, these cold air intakes kits are not CARB approved for the state of California.

Steve
Thank You,
ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
^^^so the smog tech was right to fail your car^^^
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
^^^so the smog tech was right to fail your car^^^
Perhaps, but the argument is more of less the fact the car is 100% original, and I'm failing because of a silly sticker that DIDN'T come on the car when I bought it 10 years ago. lol
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
sounds like you slid thru the cracks the last couple inspections... [Confused]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Smog is bullshit.

I'm having to smog my car two years in a row. [Roll Eyes] [BS flag]
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
^^^so the smog tech was right to fail your car^^^
Perhaps, but the argument is more of less the fact the car is 100% original, and I'm failing because of a silly sticker that DIDN'T come on the car when I bought it 10 years ago. lol
Did you buy the car new from the dealership.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Yeah, out of the showroom floor at Roseville future ford.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasvt8:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Its just ridiculous. Yeah, I kinda laughed about the whole "using the internet to determine if my car's factory air intake is smog legal or not" but whatever.

anywho, just more headache I have to deal with. Anyone recommend a smog tech in the sacramento area that isn't a Nazi when it comes to an otherwise stock mustang? hahaha
There is a little hole in the wall place on auburn and twin oaks in citrus heights, only $30 and dude is cool
whats the name of the place in Auburn?
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Yeah, out of the showroom floor at Roseville future ford.
Then make them make it legal.
 
Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :
 
Look on your window sticker, not sure how it was ten years ago but nowadays it had to say CA Emissions Legal on the window sticker to be sold. If it says that you're safe, if it doesn't, go ask Roseville why they sold it to you.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by swedensky:
Look on your window sticker, not sure how it was ten years ago but nowadays it had to say CA Emissions Legal on the window sticker to be sold. If it says that you're safe, if it doesn't, go ask Roseville why they sold it to you.
Do know how to read Roush says was it's not carb legal. It should have never been installed on the car when was being sold in California.
 
Posted by ZincYellow 281 (Member # 9865) on :
 
Op sounds like the tech was not in the wrong if Roush themselves are telling you it is not legal. But you might be in luck, if I can find my old intake for my 2v you can use it, hell even have it.

If I can find it I will bring with me to the 50 reasons car show this weekend. Just pick it up.
 
Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by swedensky:
Look on your window sticker, not sure how it was ten years ago but nowadays it had to say CA Emissions Legal on the window sticker to be sold. If it says that you're safe, if it doesn't, go ask Roseville why they sold it to you.
Do know how to read Roush says was it's not carb legal. It should have never been installed on the car when was being sold in California.
You can try reading my post again. If his window sticker doesn't say CA Emissions he can get the dealer to pay for the smogs and a new intake. Because in the current day and time I can get a car from another state trailered to my dealership and sell it without CA emissions in which case I am responsible as a seller. So if his Roush didn't originally come from CA it won't always say that. Crawl back in your hole troll.

for you:

https://www.hookedonphonics.com/
 
Posted by 85CHP510 (Member # 9690) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
Turn him in to the bar he has no business with a smog license. You can make a complaint on a smog technician.
Not the smog tech's fault the blame is on the state if anything doesn't look right fails send to the ref.the state wants us to fail cars.
im taking a smog class right now in concord and maaaaaaaan...i feel the smog tech, maybe hes a newbie....but also if the carb sticker is on there wtf, thats one of the first things i learned in this class
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 85CHP510:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
Should be a sticker on the door that says vehicle is modified by roush and is fully carb complaint.
Yep, and its there. But he says its not a California CARB sticker and cannot be accepted. I'm just dealing with some brain dead smog tech.
Turn him in to the bar he has no business with a smog license. You can make a complaint on a smog technician.
Not the smog tech's fault the blame is on the state if anything doesn't look right fails send to the ref.the state wants us to fail cars.
im taking a smog class right now in concord and maaaaaaaan...i feel the smog tech, maybe hes a newbie....but also if the carb sticker is on there wtf, thats one of the first things i learned in this class
You taking class at auto tec off monument?
 
Posted by POWERED BY FORD (Member # 9204) on :
 
I have a stock intake you can use and I am in sac also
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Yeah, out of the showroom floor at Roseville future ford.
Then make them make it legal.
[patriot]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
I contacted Future ford of Roseville and they basically through me under the bus. No idea how many voice mails of advisors I got, and then when one answered they asked how old the car was... 10 years?! its out of warranty and there's nothing we can do. try contacting roush and see what they do. ( already did that )

What's funny is, I went in there 2 days ago and even their intakes now don't have carb numbers on the S2 and S3 2012/13/14s...
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
I contacted Future ford of Roseville and they basically through me under the bus. No idea how many voice mails of advisors I got, and then when one answered they asked how old the car was... 10 years?! its out of warranty and there's nothing we can do. try contacting roush and see what they do. ( already did that )

What's funny is, I went in there 2 days ago and even their intakes now don't have carb numbers on the S2 and S3 2012/13/14s...
Go talk to the general manager.service writers are like car salesman the just want you money an if that can't sell you something they will tell you to kick rocks.
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
I emailed Roush for shits n gigs. This is their reply:

Michael,


Thanks for contacting ROUSH Performance.

Sorry, these cold air intakes kits are not CARB approved for the state of California.

Steve
Thank You,
ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH
well you learn something new every day. Wonder how they got away with that.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
I emailed roush again and they responded, and now they're asking me if the car was equipped with the Air intake from the factory or was it added on. ( Its optional on S1, but on S2 and S3, its a factory option )

They're asking for my serial number to confirm its an original roush and my vin number.

I'm supplying them with that and we'll go from there, I guess.
 
Posted by FobraJay (Member # 13344) on :
 
mines does not have it either and it passed last week [patriot]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FobraJay:
mines does not have it either and it passed last week [patriot]
who'd you take it to?
 
Posted by flores24v (Member # 10586) on :
 
im glad my buddy that does smog won't worry about my aftermarket JLT CAI, he just makes sure everything is connected and smogs it, no CARB sticker also, probably cuts me slack since he knows me [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by flores24v:
im glad my buddy that does smog won't worry about my aftermarket JLT CAI, he just makes sure everything is connected and smogs it, no CARB sticker also, probably cuts me slack since he knows me [Big Grin]
Lol I'm not even looking for somebody to "under the table" smog it.... its a factory car, 100% in the same condition it drove off the lot in November of 2003. There should be absolutely no reason that this is failing, what so ever.

Waiting on Roush's response... ( they usually only email me in the morning... )
 
Posted by flores24v (Member # 10586) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by flores24v:
im glad my buddy that does smog won't worry about my aftermarket JLT CAI, he just makes sure everything is connected and smogs it, no CARB sticker also, probably cuts me slack since he knows me [Big Grin]
Lol I'm not even looking for somebody to "under the table" smog it.... its a factory car, 100% in the same condition it drove off the lot in November of 2003. There should be absolutely no reason that this is failing, what so ever.

Waiting on Roush's response... ( they usually only email me in the morning... )
Lol it's not a "under the table smog" it's all legit, welI maybe it kinda is since it doesn't have a CARB sticker but he runs it through the machine and all that good stuff,
Good luck anyway, I have a stock intake off my old 02 get if you happen to need it, free

[ 2014-10-09, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: flores24v ]
 
Posted by Chilangoworrior00GT (Member # 11344) on :
 
Quick question, I have an acufab tb and plenum on a 2000 gt, will it be a problem when i go to smog it?
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chilangoworrior00GT:
Quick question, I have an acufab tb and plenum on a 2000 gt, will it be a problem when i go to smog it?
Lets put it this way. If it doesn't have a carb number, you're screwed. lol
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Lmao... alright, this is starting to get hilarious.

Here's a little update that should make you guys laugh.

I received an email back from Roush performance:

Michael,

We are checking with the production team to see what was the content back in 2004, however we do not believe that a Cold Air intake would’ve been part of our original content package.

The dealership may have changed this before delivery.

Steve

Thank You,
ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH

He then sends me another email about 30 minutes after this email and it states:

Michael,

It was confirmed that it was not a part of our core components, however our production team is asking for a picture of the Cold Air intake kit to see if there is a Carb Label we can send out.

Steve

Thank You,

ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH

What makes me laugh about all of this, is that I have the original sale form, and it gives me a list of every single option that my car was equipped with from Roush and that list of options includes:

◾Window Window Banners (Front, Side & Rear)
◾Front Fascia
◾Rear Valences
◾Side Skirts
◾Rear Wing
◾Roush Emblems
◾Cold Air Induction
◾Roush Suspension System ◾Front & Rear Roush Valved Bilstein Shocks
◾Front & Rear Springs
◾Rear Lower Control Arms
◾Front & Rear Sway Bars
◾Pinion Snubber
◾High-Performance Exhaust System
◾Hand Crafted Stainless Steel Tips
◾Side Exit Exhaust Tips
◾18X9 front and 18x10.5″ Upgraded Chrome Roush Wheels & High Performance Tires
◾Embroidered Floor Mats
◾Custom Trunk Tool Box
◾Roush White Face Gauges
◾Roush Locking Lug nuts & Key
◾Roush CNC Aluminum Pedals

They're asking for a picture of the air intake, So I guess i'll send it to them and see what they say. But I doubt they have a carb number for a 10 year old air intake.
 
Posted by 9cobrasvt8 (Member # 11078) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasvt8:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Its just ridiculous. Yeah, I kinda laughed about the whole "using the internet to determine if my car's factory air intake is smog legal or not" but whatever.

anywho, just more headache I have to deal with. Anyone recommend a smog tech in the sacramento area that isn't a Nazi when it comes to an otherwise stock mustang? hahaha
There is a little hole in the wall place on auburn and twin oaks in citrus heights, only $30 and dude is cool
whats the name of the place in Auburn?
I cant remember the name, its in citrus heights right next to a tire shop on twin oaks and auburn blvd
 
Posted by 95gtdrop (Member # 7478) on :
 
Holy shit dude! I can't be,I've all of this nonsense!

They'd better come through and make things right.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95gtdrop:
Holy shit dude! I can't be,I've all of this nonsense!

They'd better come through and make things right.
Lol I know, its ridiculous.

Still waiting on a reply from them. I sent them an email with my attached Roush window sticker that includes all options ( clearly says Cold air induction ) And I also attached a picture or two of the air intake like they asked.
 
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by 95gtdrop:
Holy shit dude! I can't be,I've all of this nonsense!

They'd better come through and make things right.
Lol I know, its ridiculous.

Still waiting on a reply from them. I sent them an email with my attached Roush window sticker that includes all options ( clearly says Cold air induction ) And I also attached a picture or two of the air intake like they asked.
If that window sticker isn't proof enough, their heads must really be far up their asses.
 
Posted by 95gtdrop (Member # 7478) on :
 
If they don't come through my opinion of roush performance will go down the toilet.
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Lmao... alright, this is starting to get hilarious.

Here's a little update that should make you guys laugh.

I received an email back from Roush performance:

Michael,

We are checking with the production team to see what was the content back in 2004, however we do not believe that a Cold Air intake would’ve been part of our original content package.

The dealership may have changed this before delivery.

Steve

Thank You,
ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH

He then sends me another email about 30 minutes after this email and it states:

Michael,

It was confirmed that it was not a part of our core components, however our production team is asking for a picture of the Cold Air intake kit to see if there is a Carb Label we can send out.

Steve

Thank You,

ROUSH Performance Products
Customer Service
39555 Schoolcraft Rd.
Plymouth, MI 48170
Phone: 800-59-ROUSH

What makes me laugh about all of this, is that I have the original sale form, and it gives me a list of every single option that my car was equipped with from Roush and that list of options includes:

◾Window Window Banners (Front, Side & Rear)
◾Front Fascia
◾Rear Valences
◾Side Skirts
◾Rear Wing
◾Roush Emblems
◾Cold Air Induction
◾Roush Suspension System ◾Front & Rear Roush Valved Bilstein Shocks
◾Front & Rear Springs
◾Rear Lower Control Arms
◾Front & Rear Sway Bars
◾Pinion Snubber
◾High-Performance Exhaust System
◾Hand Crafted Stainless Steel Tips
◾Side Exit Exhaust Tips
◾18X9 front and 18x10.5″ Upgraded Chrome Roush Wheels & High Performance Tires
◾Embroidered Floor Mats
◾Custom Trunk Tool Box
◾Roush White Face Gauges
◾Roush Locking Lug nuts & Key
◾Roush CNC Aluminum Pedals

They're asking for a picture of the air intake, So I guess i'll send it to them and see what they say. But I doubt they have a carb number for a 10 year old air intake.
sounds like they are trying to cover there asses.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
The visual inspection of smog is just a bullshit thing anyway. Smog is all about the money nothing more, politicians don't care what comes out of your tailpipes as long as; you, the company that made the product, the car dealership, and the car maker pay the money that they want to help line their pockets.
 
Posted by diablounicorn (Member # 13033) on :
 
REPORT IT, they are about to cover their ass, now that you brought it to their attention they are going to check for every s2 and s3 sold in california. they could get into trouble. send every body to court hahaha even CARB themselves.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Tracked down some interesting information:

http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-418-1.pdf

this is a CARB/ARB investigation report that covers the 99-01 cold air intakes but not the 02-04 ones. They have other investigations that have passed for 05+ air intake. But nothing for an 02-04, not to mention this still doesn't give me a carb number, so it still probably wont pass.
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Just grab a 20 stock intake or one with a carb number then switch it back after smog. Seems like a lot of drama already.
 
Posted by svt3773 (Member # 4759) on :
 
Keep with it. Make them make it right.
 
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on :
 
I maybe be wrong here but I think you should be going after the dealer that sold the car, which maybe hard ten years later. Roush takes a factory car then they modify it themselves, it maybe sold at a ford dealer with the same warranty and such but it's not an original factory car like a svt or if it has ford racing parts on it. It's aftermarket parts, I've seen a few dealers selling k&n intakes for brand new cars as an add on. I think it's more on the dealer to make sure they are smog legal and not screw the customer down the line years later.

There are dealer options that don't fall in the scope as a factory option. I've seen dealers add leather and heated seats to cars where there was no option from the factory to do so. If the heated seat failed the warranty would be covered by the dealer themselves not ford for example. While this isn't the exact same it was the closest thing I could come up with.

Either way someone has to make this right for you and is some bs.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
I have a stock air intake that I'm borrowing to pass smog. But I just feel pretty silly putting something on my car that didn't even come with it off the lot. lol but we'll see.

Its somebody's fault. lol whether it be the dealer's or Roush. Its been 2 business days since I've heard from Roush. I'll probably just end up swapping the intake on and calling it good.

Perhaps I should just drive the car up to the future ford dealer and tell them whats up.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
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Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
I have a stock air intake that I'm borrowing to pass smog. But I just feel pretty silly putting something on my car that didn't even come with it off the lot. lol but we'll see.

Its somebody's fault. lol whether it be the dealer's or Roush. Its been 2 business days since I've heard from Roush. I'll probably just end up swapping the intake on and calling it good.

Perhaps I should just drive the car up to the future ford dealer and tell them whats up.
I would an ask for the general manager. But call first an ask who the general manager is because salesman an sales manager's like to play like there the boss when most of them are the pond scum of the dealerships.
 
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on :
 
This is just way too much drama for an air intake! Someone even said to go after the dealer?? for what, just change the intake or take it to another smog shop, hopefully the new shop will have some common sense.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Z06-FTMFW:
This is just way too much drama for an air intake! Someone even said to go after the dealer?? for what, just change the intake or take it to another smog shop, hopefully the new shop will have some common sense.
I guess you have no clue how the smog program has changed an if we don't fail cars it hurts are licences.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
I went to a shop in Roseville and discussed my situation with them. He told me from a "smog tech" point of view, there's no way I should have been failed on a vehicle that came off the lot with these ford factory certified mods. He basically told me the only reason a shop would deny my car is if they don't really know the answer if its legal or not. 9/10 they look for a carb number and if its not there, its not legal. But he mentioned the serial number and the emissions sticker on my inside door panel should've been plenty of information required to be smogged.

He also told me that the Roush air intake never went through the C.a.r.b process, but it was approved by the Air resource board and is legal.

So the car will be going to this tech in the morning.
 
Posted by Marks93 (Member # 11130) on :
 
Good God!! What an ordeal! Glad to hear that. I think you found yourself a new smog tech!! [worship]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Yeah... this whole situation is just retarded.

Hopefully guy helps me out. He gave me some BS about how "red fuel injectors" are not smog legal? and mine look pink / red... anyway, they're original. so hopefully dude isn't another dumbass.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
I went to a shop in Roseville and discussed my situation with them. He told me from a "smog tech" point of view, there's no way I should have been failed on a vehicle that came off the lot with these ford factory certified mods. He basically told me the only reason a shop would deny my car is if they don't really know the answer if its legal or not. 9/10 they look for a carb number and if its not there, its not legal. But he mentioned the serial number and the emissions sticker on my inside door panel should've been plenty of information required to be smogged.

He also told me that the Roush air intake never went through the C.a.r.b process, but it was approved by the Air resource board and is legal.

So the car will be going to this tech in the morning.
Is this person a smog tech that you spoke too.or just some guy at a shop.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Roush passed smog, even with the cold air intake.
 
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by Z06-FTMFW:
This is just way too much drama for an air intake! Someone even said to go after the dealer?? for what, just change the intake or take it to another smog shop, hopefully the new shop will have some common sense.
I guess you have no clue how the smog program has changed an if we don't fail cars it hurts are licences.
I guess I don't??? I think its wrong that If you don't fail cars it hurts your license.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Z06-FTMFW:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by Z06-FTMFW:
This is just way too much drama for an air intake! Someone even said to go after the dealer?? for what, just change the intake or take it to another smog shop, hopefully the new shop will have some common sense.
I guess you have no clue how the smog program has changed an if we don't fail cars it hurts are licences.
I guess I don't??? I think its wrong that If you don't fail cars it hurts your license.
Blame the democrats an republican
 
Posted by Marks93 (Member # 11130) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Roush passed smog, even with the cold air intake.
[worship] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Roush passed smog, even with the cold air intake.
Fuckin finally! lol [patriot]
 




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