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Posted by Infamous5.0 (Member # 1745) on
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After putting over 5 bullits on him, he needs to be handcuffed because he's still considered a threat.
http://youtu.be/sawwd8dh6M4
[ 2014-05-21, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: Infamous5.0 ]
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on
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Shouldve shot the stupid bitches too
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on
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With the baby in her arms lol. What did the guy do?
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on
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all he had to do is get down and put his hands behind his back but he decided his future. Btw they could of tased that fool
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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The woman recording sounds as if she didn't take advantage of the free education she has been given. Dude was probably an illegal and didn't know English or playing dumb like he didn't know what was going on.
Dude got his muffin cap peeled back cause of it.
[ 2014-05-21, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]
Posted by 79 cobra (Member # 10137) on
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Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
[ 2014-05-21, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: 79 cobra ]
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
You should sign up for the force and show them how it's done. Until then, take a step back and think how you would handle a situation where an unknown suspect is unresponsive and unwilling to acknowledge multiple attempts to stop walking away. Oh and you have know fucking clue if he has a gun or a knife on him.
Posted by fiftwyz (Member # 8351) on
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These pigs are quik to pull the trigger!!!! They do have tasers! Oh well when one pig goes down then its makn up for people that are killed like this!!!!!! My opinion!
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on
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I hear what sounds like a taser at 7 seconds but obviously didnt take affect....or probes fell off.
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
You should sign up for the force and show them how it's done. Until then, take a step back and think how you would handle a situation where an unknown suspect is unresponsive and unwilling to acknowledge multiple attempts to stop walking away. Oh and you have know fucking clue if he has a gun or a knife on him.
Salinas cops shoot hella people and get away with it. I know a fag x salinas cop and he shot 3 people while down there. Now he has a nice job in the bay area. If the public gets so mad they should shoot back.
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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the guy had a knife, if u look close the guy actually lunges or steps towards the police threatening to get back from him as the fellow with the knife continues to enter or go towards the crowded intersection with innocents folks around. i still hate most of teh police but really im not mad nor shocked by this recording, lady if she fucking cared should of got closer and intervened or translated if that was the case, lady waited till after the shots before she said anything.
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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Wtf with the stupid ass bitch cunt ass hoe holding the baby and going towards the arm officers to see the actions.
Posted by 9cobrasvt8 (Member # 11078) on
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Originally posted by Robb:
Shouldve shot the stupid bitches too
+100
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on
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"The Tuesday afternoon shooting death of man alleged to have attempted to burglarize a Salinas, CA home and then expose himself to the person inside"
After reading this and seeing him on camera looking a like a drugged out lunatic, I can't say I care he was shot dead.
Posted by FiveOhChuck (Member # 12588) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The woman recording sounds as if she didn't take advantage of the free education she has been given. Dude was probably an illegal and didn't know English or playing dumb like he didn't know what was going on.
Dude got his muffin cap peeled back cause of it.
Lol what does knowing English or being and illegal have to do with anything.
Posted by flores50 (Member # 9122) on
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Originally posted by 9cobrasvt8:
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Originally posted by Robb:
Shouldve shot the stupid bitches too
+100
Negative.. Some of yall are unbelievable smh
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on
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I don't think the cops should of shot directly at those women, but if they were hit by a stray I wouldn't really care.
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Dude got his muffin cap peeled back cause of it.
Rofl ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
he shoulda popped the trunk on his ass haha Kevin Hart FTW
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
Not commenting on whether these cops done right or wrong, but your comment about shooting someone in the leg is dumb. Shooting someone in the leg, or shooting a weapon out of someone's hand is Hollywood nonsense. No one teaches "shoot-to-wound". You shoot until the threat is stopped. If that takes 1 bullet or 20 bullets, then you do what it takes to stop the threat. And if the guy is killed with 1 bullet or 5, what difference does it make? Dead is dead. They didn't make him any more dead with the extra 4 bullets.
[ 2014-05-22, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: wilit ]
Posted by 51505.0 (Member # 1904) on
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Your right they should have shot his bid toe off so he couldn't have walked and would have sat down. They maybe one of his fingers so he couldn't hold the knife anymore. Yeah that sounds like a great idea, idiot
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
Yes please do tell how based on your training and experience you could have done this different?
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Just 1 more person killed without due process.
Posted by SacGrown89GT (Member # 7435) on
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After readin all the comments some of u are idiots. To me the man showed no threat. He was walking away not toward the cops. A simple taser woulda brought his ass down. Maybe cause he was mexican u right away assume hes illegal or doesnt speak english. Childish, but let him have been a black guy shit woulda been racist and hate. A white guy woulda got tased real quick. Im just sayin. I understand a cops point of view too. Gotta get home every night by all means. They get paid shit to put their lives on the line but its a career they choose. All im sayin they did what they "thought" they had to do. A taser could have been used. And to top it off they cuffed em up. Fkn crazy. Thats jus My .02
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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by FiveOhChuck:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The woman recording sounds as if she didn't take advantage of the free education she has been given. Dude was probably an illegal and didn't know English or playing dumb like he didn't know what was going on.
Dude got his muffin cap peeled back cause of it.
Lol what does knowing English or being and illegal have to do with anything.
Well if you walked up on me speaking Spanish I wouldn't be able to make out more then a few words what you were saying.
If this was in Mexico and the cops stopped me, I'd fucking hit the deck cause I don't wanna get shot by a .308 out of an FAL.
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
Not commenting on whether these cops done right or wrong, but your comment about shooting someone in the leg is dumb. Shooting someone in the leg, or shooting a weapon out of someone's hand is Hollywood nonsense. No one teaches "shoot-to-wound". You shoot until the threat is stopped. If that takes 1 bullet or 20 bullets, then you do what it takes to stop the threat. And if the guy is killed with 1 bullet or 5, what difference does it make? Dead is dead. They didn't make him any more dead with the extra 4 bullets.
Plus 1000 you never go into a situation thinking hey if I shoot his leg he'll stop, no. I'm not going to say the shooting was justified or not but I can guarantee everyone on this board would rather kill someone they see as a threat to their lives if push comes to shove.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by blackfifty:
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
Fuck the police no need to shot him shoulda just tazzed him and really 5 shots to the chest I understand one to the leg but 5 in the chet thats un called for hope someday they get a gut shot and see how it feel
Not commenting on whether these cops done right or wrong, but your comment about shooting someone in the leg is dumb. Shooting someone in the leg, or shooting a weapon out of someone's hand is Hollywood nonsense. No one teaches "shoot-to-wound". You shoot until the threat is stopped. If that takes 1 bullet or 20 bullets, then you do what it takes to stop the threat. And if the guy is killed with 1 bullet or 5, what difference does it make? Dead is dead. They didn't make him any more dead with the extra 4 bullets.
Plus 1000 you never go into a situation thinking hey if I shoot his leg he'll stop, no. I'm not going to say the shooting was justified or not but I can guarantee everyone on this board would rather kill someone they see as a threat to their lives if push comes to shove.
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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on
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To all the dumbasses saying "they shouldve tasered him" and "they shouldved shot him in the foot". Its so easy to say that behind the keyboard while your feet are probably kicked up watching tv.
What happens if that same guy broke into your house and was coming towards your wife and kid with the knife? Would you shoot him in the foot or break out a taser and shoot him with that?
Oh wait, Its only bad when a cop does it. Its only "too much" when a cop does it. Its only the most horrible thing in the world when a cop does it.
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on
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Think of it like this: You're sound asleep, your family in the home (kids and all) and someone breaks into your home. You have a loaded gun and a bat next to your bed. You don't know who the guy is, whether he is armed or not, but the MF'er had the audacity to break into your home. Are you going to wield your bat and ask the guy politely to get out or on the ground, knowing that your family depends on you to protect them?
Now if you're a cop and are entrusted to protect the public, and a person isn't yielding to your commands but threatens you in anyway you're damn right he's going to protect himself. I don't care who you are, don't disregard an officer's commands when he is pointing a gun at you.
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
THIS.
Its only bad when a cop shoots someones.
Fucking hypocrites.
Posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR (Member # 10170) on
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Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
Think of it like this: You're sound asleep, your family in the home (kids and all) and someone breaks into your home. You have a loaded gun and a bat next to your bed. You don't know who the guy is, whether he is armed or not, but the MF'er had the audacity to break into your home. Are you going to wield your bat and ask the guy politely to get out or on the ground, knowing that your family depends on you to protect them?
Now if you're a cop and are entrusted to protect the public, and a person isn't yielding to your commands but threatens you in anyway you're damn right he's going to protect himself. I don't care who you are, don't disregard an officer's commands when he is pointing a gun at you.
Not sure how your statements are relevant to this situation. Cops are cops, not a sleeping citizen caught off guard by some random lunatic.
They had the guy out numbered. If he was holding a knife fine. Taze his ass once, twice, how many times it takes. If he dies from that then too bad.. He asked for it.. But being shot multiple times in close range for acting stupid in public yielding a knife is a bit extreme in my opinion.
By no means do I hate cops or think they're all pigs like others refer to them. I think the issue is there are a lot of cops out there that shouldn't be cops to begin with. Soft guys that did good in school and managed their way through the academy. These cops should of been brave enough to defuse the situation without having to shoot the guy. Taze his ass, pepper spray him, muscle his ass down, beat em with batons until he is subdued. I'm not a cop nor understand what it is to be one but I think it's common sense that this guy didn't NEED to be killed.
This is happening all too often in our communities now in days to ignore the fact there is an issue with our law enforcement process.
.02 Cents
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on
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Originally posted by Robb:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
THIS.
Its only bad when a cop shoots someones.
Fucking hypocrites.
Hope a cop shoots you
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Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on
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Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
Think of it like this: You're sound asleep, your family in the home (kids and all) and someone breaks into your home. You have a loaded gun and a bat next to your bed. You don't know who the guy is, whether he is armed or not, but the MF'er had the audacity to break into your home. Are you going to wield your bat and ask the guy politely to get out or on the ground, knowing that your family depends on you to protect them?
Now if you're a cop and are entrusted to protect the public, and a person isn't yielding to your commands but threatens you in anyway you're damn right he's going to protect himself. I don't care who you are, don't disregard an officer's commands when he is pointing a gun at you.
anyone breaking into a home where innocent people sleep deserves a full clip unloaded in them , NO QUESTIONS ASKED
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on
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All three people involved (both cops and the perp for you idiots that can't count) are fucking dumbasses bad judgement for the cops and bad decision for the perp.
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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Originally posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR:
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Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
Think of it like this: You're sound asleep, your family in the home (kids and all) and someone breaks into your home. You have a loaded gun and a bat next to your bed. You don't know who the guy is, whether he is armed or not, but the MF'er had the audacity to break into your home. Are you going to wield your bat and ask the guy politely to get out or on the ground, knowing that your family depends on you to protect them?
Now if you're a cop and are entrusted to protect the public, and a person isn't yielding to your commands but threatens you in anyway you're damn right he's going to protect himself. I don't care who you are, don't disregard an officer's commands when he is pointing a gun at you.
Not sure how your statements are relevant to this situation. Cops are cops, not a sleeping citizen caught off guard by some random lunatic.
They had the guy out numbered. If he was holding a knife fine. Taze his ass once, twice, how many times it takes. If he dies from that then too bad.. He asked for it.. But being shot multiple times in close range for acting stupid in public yielding a knife is a bit extreme in my opinion.
By no means do I hate cops or think they're all pigs like others refer to them. I think the issue is there are a lot of cops out there that shouldn't be cops to begin with. Soft guys that did good in school and managed their way through the academy. These cops should of been brave enough to defuse the situation without having to shoot the guy. Taze his ass, pepper spray him, muscle his ass down, beat em with batons until he is subdued. I'm not a cop nor understand what it is to be one but I think it's common sense that this guy didn't NEED to be killed.
This is happening all too often in our communities now in days to ignore the fact there is an issue with our law enforcement process.
.02 Cents
IMHO, this guy makes the most sense here. The police were holding all the cards in this video. Is there more to the video that isn't shown? This guy was backing away the whole time in the video. Did he ever charge them in an aggressive way? I didn't see it, but maybe there is more to this situation then just this video. The police here seemed to be taking the path of least resistance. Pull the gun, shoot. If the guy was holding a gun, different story. If he had some woman or child in a chock hold with a knife the their neck, different story. The guy seemed more scared then anything, in this video anyway. Seems to me there is a bit too much of this going on lately.
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on
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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
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Originally posted by Robb:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
THIS.
Its only bad when a cop shoots someones.
Fucking hypocrites.
Hope a cop shoots you
Dont worry it wont happen, Im not a lowlife piece of shit thinking he is above the law and can do whatever he pleases.
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on
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Originally posted by Robb:
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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
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Originally posted by Robb:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
THIS.
Its only bad when a cop shoots someones.
Fucking hypocrites.
Hope a cop shoots you
Dont worry it wont happen, Im not a lowlife piece of shit thinking he is above the law and can do whatever he pleases.
Lmfao clapped out fox. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR:
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Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
Think of it like this: You're sound asleep, your family in the home (kids and all) and someone breaks into your home. You have a loaded gun and a bat next to your bed. You don't know who the guy is, whether he is armed or not, but the MF'er had the audacity to break into your home. Are you going to wield your bat and ask the guy politely to get out or on the ground, knowing that your family depends on you to protect them?
Now if you're a cop and are entrusted to protect the public, and a person isn't yielding to your commands but threatens you in anyway you're damn right he's going to protect himself. I don't care who you are, don't disregard an officer's commands when he is pointing a gun at you.
Not sure how your statements are relevant to this situation. Cops are cops, not a sleeping citizen caught off guard by some random lunatic.
They had the guy out numbered. If he was holding a knife fine. Taze his ass once, twice, how many times it takes. If he dies from that then too bad.. He asked for it.. But being shot multiple times in close range for acting stupid in public yielding a knife is a bit extreme in my opinion.
By no means do I hate cops or think they're all pigs like others refer to them. I think the issue is there are a lot of cops out there that shouldn't be cops to begin with. Soft guys that did good in school and managed their way through the academy. These cops should of been brave enough to defuse the situation without having to shoot the guy. Taze his ass, pepper spray him, muscle his ass down, beat em with batons until he is subdued. I'm not a cop nor understand what it is to be one but I think it's common sense that this guy didn't NEED to be killed.
This is happening all too often in our communities now in days to ignore the fact there is an issue with our law enforcement process.
.02 Cents
IMHO, this guy makes the most sense here. The police were holding all the cards in this video. Is there more to the video that isn't shown? This guy was backing away the whole time in the video. Did he ever charge them in an aggressive way? I didn't see it, but maybe there is more to this situation then just this video. The police here seemed to be taking the path of least resistance. Pull the gun, shoot. If the guy was holding a gun, different story. If he had some woman or child in a chock hold with a knife the their neck, different story. The guy seemed more scared then anything, in this video anyway. Seems to me there is a bit too much of this going on lately.
This was more so my point. I never said they were justified in killing the poor guy who at the time his worst crime may have been to be a drunkard on the streets. It was disheartening to see how they handled the situation and seeing a man lose his life but I'm no cop so I can't say 100% either way with certainty. My point was everyone jumping down and calling the officers worthless pieces of this and that.
I agree with muscling the drunk guy down, beat down, or use of pepper sprat. A gun should be the last plan of action IMO.
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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On the first page someone said he broke into a house armed with a knife, exposed himself to someone inside the home.
This guy wasn't just walking down the street looking for little old lady's to escort across the street.
Dude was most likely on something or needing a fix. I'd love to see his toxicology report to see what was in his system. It's a terrible situation but this kind of stuff happens all the time. It could have got real ugly if the guy ran toward a group of people and started stabbing them. Hell had the cops zapped the guy everyone would still be up in arms about it.
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on
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They put that cholo to sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egRXqQWFfPI&feature=youtu.be
Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on
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I say good job to the cops. They should of shoot both the dumb bitches. The baby would be Bette off.
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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"They should have tazed him"
"They should have shot him in the leg"
"He wasn't a threat"
If you're told by officers to stop, lie down, put your hands on your head or behind your back, sit down, up against the wall... Whatever... If they are giving you orders for several minutes and you are uncooperative, you are presenting yourself as a threat. If you are uncooperative, you are putting doubt in the officers minds as to your intentions. Maybe you have a concealed weapon. Maybe you're a serial rapist and murderer. All the officer knows is you're unresponsive to verbal commands and being uncooperative. Everything else is a variable, and time is a factor in a situation that could become life or death the minute the suspect draws a weapon.
Officers are trained to shoot center mass. Center mass puts people down. Center mass ends the situation.
Don't wanna get shot? Stop being a moron and cooperate. Backing away isn't cooperating. Lie your ass on the ground and spread them arms and legs and finger and toes.
[ 2014-05-23, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: 04 S281 ]
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on
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^^^^^Well said sir.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by 04 S281:
"They should have tazed him"
"They should have shot him in the leg"
"He wasn't a threat"
If you're told by officers to stop, lie down, put your hands on your head or behind your back, sit down, up against the wall... Whatever... If they are giving you orders for several minutes and you are uncooperative, you are presenting yourself as a threat. If you are uncooperative, you are putting doubt in the officers minds as to your intentions. Maybe you have a concealed weapon. Maybe you're a serial rapist and murderer. All the officer knows is you're unresponsive to verbal commands and being uncooperative. Everything else is a variable, and time is a factor in a situation that could become life or death the minute the suspect draws a weapon.
Officers are trained to shoot center mass. Center mass puts people down. Center mass ends the situation.
Don't wanna get shot? Stop being a moron and cooperate. Backing away isn't cooperating. Lie your ass on the ground and spread them arms and legs and finger and toes.
I think you got it wrong. There have been people that do just what the cops say, and still get beat to death. Innocent people getting beat to death. Cops killing people is reaching a all time high, while the death of cops is at a all time low. They need better training. Every person they meet aren't threats. You seem to think this is Mayberry, and the cops are Andy Griffith. What about the innocent father beat to death in front of his wife and daughter outside of the theater. I guess if he just laid down on the ground faster he wouldn't be dead. police forget that we are all innocent tell proven guilty. Thing called due process. Police are to quick to just jump to shots fired. They have this guy surrounded, he is walking a way from them at all times. the cops rushes up on him, then executes him as he turns to see what the cop is doing. The cops could of stood 15'ish feet gun at the ready, and waited for back up. But the do what they do. Run up on him and shoot him down in cold blood. When you have Police killing more people then have died in a war. You have a problem. They had all the time in the world to deal with this guy. They choose to execute him. The same day they killed him, cops in other states also killed 3 others. 4 people in a day...
[ 2014-05-24, 10:49 AM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on
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Originally posted by Robb:
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Some of the same people screaming police brutality are the same people who talk about how they're gonna shoot someone for trying to steal their clapped out notch.
THIS.
Its only bad when a cop shoots someones.
Fucking hypocrites.
You can almost guess who has been arrested before based on the replies.
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