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Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
In the near future I want to put together a 351w, I just want to know some of the best routes to go on building one that won't break the bank, I know there are a few tips and tricks to gain a little extra hp but don't know to much and info is appreciated thanks
 
Posted by Bent70 (Member # 9694) on :
 
Do what I did $300 long block from 94 truck.
Conversion pan
Ac /steering braket
Flywheel
Headers
Intake to reuse my performer topend of 5.0
Done deal and under $1000

May not be very fast....but that is where the expenses add up.

I'm just going to add my s trim down the road and some decent heads....should get me to 400+ hp and have better torque the my 5.0

[ 2014-05-15, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Bent70 ]
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
Here you go brother. Everything you need to know.

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! [Big Grin]

http://www.fiveohinfo.com/performance/302-351w-swap.html

Charles [patriot]
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
i will never build a small block stroker over any 351 build unless its a aftermarket block, and the 351 still wins. if it comes close,,,, stroke the 351.
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KARATExxCHUCK:
Here you go brother. Everything you need to know.

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! [Big Grin]

http://www.fiveohinfo.com/performance/302-351w-swap.html

Charles [patriot]
That was a good read, thanks that had some really good info
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
i will never build a small block stroker over any 351 build unless its a aftermarket block, and the 351 still wins. if it comes close,,,, stroke the 351.
That's pretty much what I was thinking, which is why I want to start building the 351
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by king_jays_50:
quote:
Originally posted by KARATExxCHUCK:
Here you go brother. Everything you need to know.

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! [Big Grin]

http://www.fiveohinfo.com/performance/302-351w-swap.html

Charles [patriot]
That was a good read, thanks that had some really good info
It is! I came across that a week ago and made start to think about building a 351W. Keep my motor I have now, stock 302, for smog and build a 351 for FUN AND TRACK TIME [Big Grin]

I'm glad I could help,

Charles [patriot]
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
i will never build a small block stroker over any 351 build unless its a aftermarket block, and the 351 still wins. if it comes close,,,, stroke the 351.
OOOOO!! My Dream Motor!!! STROKED 351!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KARATExxCHUCK:
quote:
Originally posted by king_jays_50:
quote:
Originally posted by KARATExxCHUCK:
Here you go brother. Everything you need to know.

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! [Big Grin]

http://www.fiveohinfo.com/performance/302-351w-swap.html

Charles [patriot]
That was a good read, thanks that had some really good info
It is! I came across that a week ago and made start to think about building a 351W. Keep my motor I have now, stock 302, for smog and build a 351 for FUN AND TRACK TIME [Big Grin]

I'm glad I could help,

Charles [patriot]
That's exactly what I wanna do
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
the above attached articular is only wrong in one thing , in your benefit your flywheel has the same mounting holes, the weight just may be different from your current motor, but any performance motor should be balanced an will easily correct that, so u can keep your possibly fancy flywheel.
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
the above attached articular is only wrong in one thing , in your benefit your flywheel has the same mounting holes, the weight just may be different from your current motor, but any performance motor should be balanced an will easily correct that, so u can keep your possibly fancy flywheel.
So jus get the flywheel balanced and it'll work??
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
your ori one if its special i would or could. if u dont got a nice special one i personally would get one with the upgrade. even a stock one u could have balanced if u absolute
must. just saying they stated that a 351 has a different mounting bolt pattern and it does not, a 225 to 260, 289,302 ,351 Windsor all can share the same flywheel as long as the balanced is check an adjusted.
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
Got it, thanks for the info, I'm trying to gather as much knowledge as I can before I start building 1
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
well shoot in a fox the ps hit the battery tray as well, very lil trimming is needed
 
Posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse (Member # 12298) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
What kinda issues?? I have a 90's lightning 351w block.. anything I should look out for or specific that I should upgrade.. its been rebuilt and has 0 miles..
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
It's going to be put in a 93 fox
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
What kinda issues?? I have a 90's lightning 351w block.. anything I should look out for or specific that I should upgrade.. its been rebuilt and has 0 miles..
http://forums.corral.net/forums/5-0-5-8-engine-tech/1352369-must-read-psa-windsor-roller-block-guys.html
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
well shoot in a fox the ps hit the battery tray as well, very lil trimming is needed
I wish it was a little trim on my 95 with A/C, I had to basically cut out the part that holds the battery down
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
quote:
Originally posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
What kinda issues?? I have a 90's lightning 351w block.. anything I should look out for or specific that I should upgrade.. its been rebuilt and has 0 miles..
http://forums.corral.net/forums/5-0-5-8-engine-tech/1352369-must-read-psa-windsor-roller-block-guys.html
Dang!!! That's weird!!!

[patriot]
 
Posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse (Member # 12298) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
quote:
Originally posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
What kinda issues?? I have a 90's lightning 351w block.. anything I should look out for or specific that I should upgrade.. its been rebuilt and has 0 miles..
http://forums.corral.net/forums/5-0-5-8-engine-tech/1352369-must-read-psa-windsor-roller-block-guys.html
0o shit.. good info to know! I had no idea.. ima have to check it out on mine before putting it all together.. thanks for info Lee!! [patriot]
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
just read the above articular, this has happend to my personal motor as well, my Pryor machine shop aslo missed it and then told me as well it would be ok, i refused that block as i paid for them to check for cracks, they never caught it, then proceeded to charge me for a fully prepped cracked block, i brought them another and they finished that one instead, now out of at least ten or more 94 roller 351 blocks ive done, ive seen only mine have this crack. it could be as simple as the factory causing it when drilling and tapping the block for the spider hold down, it wasn't caused by stress or over powered for sure, but when your pushing any block to its limits cracks well grow. im pushing my new 94 block so wish me luck. all other motors ive done are still running besides the 9 second one because of young owner issues selling it or parting it out.
 
Posted by king_jays_50 (Member # 9513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
quote:
Originally posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
What year are putting it into? I just put a 351 into my 95 Cobra and kept the A/C and it was tight getting that to work, the compressor was hitting the battery tray, had to notch the tray to get it to work, also be careful with factory 351 roller they have had a few issues.
What kinda issues?? I have a 90's lightning 351w block.. anything I should look out for or specific that I should upgrade.. its been rebuilt and has 0 miles..
http://forums.corral.net/forums/5-0-5-8-engine-tech/1352369-must-read-psa-windsor-roller-block-guys.html
0o shit.. good info to know! I had no idea.. ima have to check it out on mine before putting it all together.. thanks for info Lee!! [patriot]
Very good read thanks lee, that's going to be the first thing I check when I get the block
 




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