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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Pure Stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 7251</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,12,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Just wondering if anyone is running has has ran that head, if so how did you like it? Is it worth the extra money over the 185's. thanks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bent70</b> <br /><small>Member # 9694</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,18,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-12-14, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Bent70 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bent70</b> <br /><small>Member # 9694</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,18,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have them on my to buy list, to go on a s trimed 351w. Hopefully some time next year as the mustang is on the back burner. I havn't found much opinions on them hopefully someones has one. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ed650</b> <br /><small>Member # 9897</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,18,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bent70:<br /><strong> I have them on my to buy list, to go on a s trimed 351w. Hopefully some time next year as the mustang is on the back burner. I havn't found much opinions on them hopefully someones has one. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">for 351 id do atleast 205 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2BlueGeeTees</b> <br /><small>Member # 4702</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,19,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Just wondering before you pick the head, what is the rest of the combo? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bent70</b> <br /><small>Member # 9694</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,20,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> For 205 the only option is trick flow to be legit with eo numbers and emission ports, but these sounded more promising. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWBACK 67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,20,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can run 165's & 185's on a 351 and make stupid low end power. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bent70</b> <br /><small>Member # 9694</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,20,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2BlueGeeTees:<br /><strong> Just wondering before you pick the head, what is the rest of the combo? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If your talking to me....<br />Stock 94 truck short block<br />Performer efi lower manifold<br />Top end of my 302...<br />Performer upper<br />Bbk egr and tb<br />36lb injectors(small) till I get 40lb+ injectors<br />1 5/8 hooker shorties<br />Basically everything has eo numbers and smog legal<br />Not the best, but most legit I can get. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>*BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R</b> <br /><small>Member # 5400</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,21,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Trick flow heads have a shorter runner and usually make more power. For a 351w the 195 AFR is not going to flow nearly as good as the TFS 205. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWBACK 67</b> <br /><small>Member # 6348</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,22,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Delete.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-12-14, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Pure Stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 7251</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,14,22,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Ill look into the tfs 205. I'm looking for more mid and top end power. Will be revved to about 6500 maybe a little more. I just haven't heard many things about the 195's. I do like how they already have a upgraded valve train. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SLOWSN95</b> <br /><small>Member # 8269</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,18,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If you're running a 302/306, I'd personally go with an AFR 165. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Pure Stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 7251</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,18,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I know the 165's will be too small for my combo. After looking at those tfs 205's I'm leaning twords that or ported 185 afr's. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Krz88lx</b> <br /><small>Member # 4261</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,18,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> You can run 165's & 185's on a 351 and make stupid low end power. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Haha Torque Monster! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Pure Stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 7251</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,18,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Krz88lx:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:<br /><strong> You can run 165's & 185's on a 351 and make stupid low end power. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Haha Torque Monster! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I bet that will! But I'm looking for mid and top end power. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>v-town coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 2771</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,19,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If your N/A 351w Afr 185 should be the way to go. if your boosted,high compression then 195 is not a bad starting point. head size will depend on the amount of boost you are going to run. <br /><br />a smaller head is going to have more air speed and aid in low end driving I.E. 5th gear. unless you dont mind buzzing around in 4th or running steep gear and buzzing in 5th then go as big as you want.<br /><br />just remember that the Rpm you will have to turn to get those big heads to do what they need to will require:<br />1.) good valve train to handle the RPM<br />2.) good rotating assembly to handle RPM if buzzin REALLY high.<br /><br />LEE made almost 360RWHP with a 185cc afr headed 306, had the cubes been bumped another 50 inches there may have been another 25 or so rwhp to be had. with a little more work here and there custom cam and maybe killer valvetrain components the 400rwhp mark could be achieved.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-12-15, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: v-town coupe ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Pure Stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 7251</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,11,15,20,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by v-town coupe:<br /><strong> If your N/A Afr 185 should be the way to go. if your boosted,high compression then 195 is not a bad starting point. head size will depend on the amount of boost you are going to run. <br /><br />a smaller head is going to have more air speed and aid in low end driving I.E. 5th gear. unless you dont mind buzzing around in 4th or running steep gear and buzzing in 5th then go as big as you want.<br /><br />just remember that the Rpm you will have to turn to get those big heads to do what they need to will require:<br />1.) good valve train to handle the RPM<br />2.) good rotating assembly to handle RPM if buzzin REALLY high.<br /><br />LEE made almost 360RWHP with a 185cc afr headed 306, had the cubes been bumped another 50 inches there may have been another 25 or so rwhp to be had. with a little more work here and there custom cam and maybe killer valvetrain components the 400rwhp mark could be achieved. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thanks for the info. Car will be spinning to 6500 9.1 compression and will be boosted down the line. Maybe nitrous for the time being. Valve train will be upgraded with tatanium retainers and better springs. I think I'm going with a 2.02 intake valve but have exhaust and intake ported out. Custom cam for sure. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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