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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SIC9250</b> <br /><small>Member # 8216</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,11,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <a href="http://www.performanceautosport.com/vehicles-list/1983-mustang-coupe-street-legal-open-track-nasa-american-iron-series/" target="_blank">http://www.performanceautosport.com/vehicles-list/1983-mustang-coupe-street-legal-open-track-nasa-american-iron-series/</a><br /><br />Somebody buy this car an let me drive it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-05-13, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>norcalfiddy</b> <br /><small>Member # 11207</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,11,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> FUCKIN SICK! <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>macthizzle</b> <br /><small>Member # 3492</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,12,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> DAMN THATS A NICE CAR. SEEING PICTURES OF CARS LIKE THIS MAKES ME WANT TO FINISH MY CAR ASAP. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>fstryde3</b> <br /><small>Member # 8436</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,12,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> WOW! That color scheme is sick I want that car! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>a302juGRnot</b> <br /><small>Member # 10163</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,13,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Front end is low as fuck! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Robb</b> <br /><small>Member # 9444</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,13,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> 4 eyed foxes are badass. I love the way they look when they are lowered on a nice set of wheels. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>warhorse58gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 7702</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,13,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Everything but the gauge cluster is boss on this car. To bad that cluster looks like a reject from a 80's computer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1FAST93NOTCH</b> <br /><small>Member # 10722</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,13,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> #SUPERCLEAN <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ECOboostin</b> <br /><small>Member # 4347</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,13,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I like their space shuttles better. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2T0NE</b> <br /><small>Member # 4216</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,14,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Car is wet <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>510cpskid</b> <br /><small>Member # 8277</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,15,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> wtf is that by the rear wheel? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>CornOil_&_Boost</b> <br /><small>Member # 5888</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,16,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 510cpskid:<br /><strong> wtf is that by the rear wheel? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">exhaust....looks good to me <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>sneakyfox90</b> <br /><small>Member # 9379</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,16,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> That thing is sick, The guys at performance autosport have some cool set up rides check out this Griggs gr40 93 ssp notch<br /><a href="http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/" target="_blank">http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SIC9250</b> <br /><small>Member # 8216</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,16,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 510cpskid:<br /><strong> wtf is that by the rear wheel? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">exhaust....looks good to me </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">+10000 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>4IDFOX</b> <br /><small>Member # 9921</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,19,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Bean for sale for a while. Very cool car.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-05-13, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: 4IDFOX ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NorCalRydaz</b> <br /><small>Member # 3233</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,19,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> [QUOTE]Originally posted by sneakyfox90:<br /><strong> That thing is sick, The guys at performance autosport have some cool set up rides check out this Griggs gr40 93 ssp notch<br /> <a href="http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/" target="_blank">http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/</a> </strong>[/QUOTE<br /><br />The welds on those sub frames looked hella weak. No penetration. The Original posted notch looks way better! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>sneakyfox90</b> <br /><small>Member # 9379</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,20,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:<br /><strong> [QUOTE]Originally posted by sneakyfox90:<br /><strong> That thing is sick, The guys at performance autosport have some cool set up rides check out this Griggs gr40 93 ssp notch<br /> <a href="http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/" target="_blank">http://www.vadriven.com/forums/eye-candy-20/performance-autosports-griggs-gr40-project-car-148990/</a> </strong>[/QUOTE<br /><br />The welds on those sub frames looked hella weak. No penetration. The Original posted notch looks way better! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Agreed on those welds (on a spot that's NOT critical)<br />Def dont think that the other notch looks better with those huge ass fender flares but that's MY opinion<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-05-13, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Greasy</b> <br /><small>Member # 5258</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,21,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Damn, this is interesting, it was posted by "FlimFlam" after another member asked why they went with Griggs suspension.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Griggs has Anti-dive built into their tubular K-members, while MM believes "Ford got it right" which is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. When you hit the brakes in a stock/MM K member car the car will nose dive, therefore lifting the weight off the rear tires and making the front brakes do all the work, while under-using the rear. With Griggs, their K members have geometry built in that plants all 4 tires under braking which allows you to use your rear brakes more then ever. This shortens braking distances a LOT and also makes the car much more controlled under threshold braking situations. Anti-dive also allows you to brake into the turn much deeper (trailbraking).<br /><br />Wana know how well the K member effects braking? That lil coupe goes 60-0 on street pads in 104feet. Look it up, that beats just about anything except a Competition Coupe Viper. Now, add RA-1s and race pads, we've got sub 100feet stopping distances. It's because we are using all 4 calipers, son.<br /><br />Again, all Mustang owners I've met already have heard so much marketting bullshit from Steeda or MM that they think they know what to buy. They ride in our cars and actually get educated answers to the problems that plauge a Mustang suspension and they buy Griggs. <br /><br />In the torque arm/panhard bar situation I would only suggest going with Griggs because our entire shop is VERY against mixing part suppliers. If you get MM K member, then use all MM, if you go Griggs, use all Griggs. We have many customers that began with a hodge podge of parts from 493282 different companies and are now completely happy with their Griggs parts and also the ONE shop that installed it all. On a different note, I've seen 2 MM Panhard bars break in person. One was at Shenendoah in an American Iron car and the other was a stick axle converted '03 Cobra on the street. Not saying Griggs parts dont break, just saying I havent seen it in person yet. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>lxhatch5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 6319</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,22,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Greasy:<br /><strong> Damn, this is interesting, it was posted by "FlimFlam" after another member asked why they went with Griggs suspension.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Griggs has Anti-dive built into their tubular K-members, while MM believes "Ford got it right" which is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. When you hit the brakes in a stock/MM K member car the car will nose dive, therefore lifting the weight off the rear tires and making the front brakes do all the work, while under-using the rear. With Griggs, their K members have geometry built in that plants all 4 tires under braking which allows you to use your rear brakes more then ever. This shortens braking distances a LOT and also makes the car much more controlled under threshold braking situations. Anti-dive also allows you to brake into the turn much deeper (trailbraking).<br /><br />Wana know how well the K member effects braking? That lil coupe goes 60-0 on street pads in 104feet. Look it up, that beats just about anything except a Competition Coupe Viper. Now, add RA-1s and race pads, we've got sub 100feet stopping distances. It's because we are using all 4 calipers, son.<br /><br />Again, all Mustang owners I've met already have heard so much marketting bullshit from Steeda or MM that they think they know what to buy. They ride in our cars and actually get educated answers to the problems that plauge a Mustang suspension and they buy Griggs. <br /><br />In the torque arm/panhard bar situation I would only suggest going with Griggs because our entire shop is VERY against mixing part suppliers. If you get MM K member, then use all MM, if you go Griggs, use all Griggs. We have many customers that began with a hodge podge of parts from 493282 different companies and are now completely happy with their Griggs parts and also the ONE shop that installed it all. On a different note, I've seen 2 MM Panhard bars break in person. One was at Shenendoah in an American Iron car and the other was a stick axle converted '03 Cobra on the street. Not saying Griggs parts dont break, just saying I havent seen it in person yet. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Theres a video of a convertible cobra full griggs suspension with a t trim I believe just to show customers how their kits work. Its Racing up a curvy Hill being timed. That thing flys up that Hill with the top down. That vid gets my adrenaline going every time i watch It. Griggs kits are no joke. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>lxhatch5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 6319</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,22,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Ferrari Club Virginia City Hill Climb<br /><br /><a href="http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=AzpDOFOvdek" target="_blank">http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=AzpDOFOvdek</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>85staNg302</b> <br /><small>Member # 9450</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,13,23,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>sneakyfox90</b> <br /><small>Member # 9379</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2013,4,14,8,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Greasy:<br /><strong> Damn, this is interesting, it was posted by "FlimFlam" after another member asked why they went with Griggs suspension.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Griggs has Anti-dive built into their tubular K-members, while MM believes "Ford got it right" which is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. When you hit the brakes in a stock/MM K member car the car will nose dive, therefore lifting the weight off the rear tires and making the front brakes do all the work, while under-using the rear. With Griggs, their K members have geometry built in that plants all 4 tires under braking which allows you to use your rear brakes more then ever. This shortens braking distances a LOT and also makes the car much more controlled under threshold braking situations. Anti-dive also allows you to brake into the turn much deeper (trailbraking).<br /><br />Wana know how well the K member effects braking? That lil coupe goes 60-0 on street pads in 104feet. Look it up, that beats just about anything except a Competition Coupe Viper. Now, add RA-1s and race pads, we've got sub 100feet stopping distances. It's because we are using all 4 calipers, son.<br /><br />Again, all Mustang owners I've met already have heard so much marketting bullshit from Steeda or MM that they think they know what to buy. They ride in our cars and actually get educated answers to the problems that plauge a Mustang suspension and they buy Griggs. <br /><br />In the torque arm/panhard bar situation I would only suggest going with Griggs because our entire shop is VERY against mixing part suppliers. If you get MM K member, then use all MM, if you go Griggs, use all Griggs. We have many customers that began with a hodge podge of parts from 493282 different companies and are now completely happy with their Griggs parts and also the ONE shop that installed it all. On a different note, I've seen 2 MM Panhard bars break in person. One was at Shenendoah in an American Iron car and the other was a stick axle converted '03 Cobra on the street. Not saying Griggs parts dont break, just saying I havent seen it in person yet. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I found his interesting as well BUT read what this guy said after switching from Griggs k member/ setup TO MM This guy likes MM handling characteristics better after having BOTH <a href="http://autos.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-RoadRacingAndAutocross/message/27200" target="_blank">http://autos.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-RoadRacingAndAutocross/message/27200</a> <br /><br /> interesting read;<br />I decided on the Maximum Motorsports set-up. It was a decent amount;heavier, but I felt it would be significantly stronge due to it's larger OD and thicker wall tubing. I also decided to switch over to the Maximum Motorsports K-member. The MM K-member is also heavier than the Grigg's equivalent, which was a hard pill to swallow, but it's fully triangulated and significantly stiffer, and removed one "feature" of the Grigg's K-member that I never liked - the anti-dive. I thought that all-and-all, this would be a significant upgrade. When I received it, the part quality was very good, installation went smoothly, and several other features of the K-member made me very happy, such as the back brace to stiffen the K-member without placing a factory K-member bolt in cantilevered shear loading. When I removed the Grigg's K-member and sold it, the buyer came back to me with some "you dodged a bullet" kind of news. The K-member<br /> had four very severe cracks in it. Two of these cracks were at the welds attaching the steering rack bosses to the main cross-tube, and two of these cracks were at<br /> the front mounting plates to the front control arm bolts -<br /> the forward most Plate that a control arm pivot bolt goes through. All four of these cracks were severe - several inches long and nearly (if not) all the way through<br /> the metal. I admit I have been bad about inspecting the K-member. While I have heard that the control arms are prone to failure, I hav; never heard of the K-member cracking. These cracks were bad enough that, had I found the mid-weekend, I would have packed up and not raced. The last part of the story ended yesterday, after spendingtwo days at<br />Gingerman Raceway, in South Haven, MI, acting as chief<br /> instructor for the SVTOA / Ford 100th Anniversary advanced driving school. During the school I had the opportunity to get in some seat time. With some very old greasy tires, I went out on a very green track. And my suspicions about anti-dive were confirmed. Under braking the car was so smooth and confidence inspiring it was amazing. I was braking deeper than I ever had, with more confidence, and I could not believe the fronts were not locking up. But freedom of motion contributed by the lack of anti-dive kept the wheels planted. I used the brakes so hard that I found two new things to fix - first that I have too much anti-squat in the back because I got into brake hop and had to dial back the rear brakes, and second (and don't laughTeddy!), I boiled my freshly bled Ford HD fluid several times, with externally measured caliper temps exceeding 3! 70~F. To my surprise, the car's dive was not objectionable at all,despite my rather soft front spring rates.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 2013-05-14, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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