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http://www.smogtips.com/new-smog-law-AB-2289.cfm

So what does this exactly mean, does it mean I can have my car outrageously modified and pass smog as long as the check engine light isn't on? Or is that just wishful thinking?

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Wishful thinking
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Originally posted by FASTHATCH 925:
Wishful thinking

So what will they be doing then? Sorry i have an 03 and my car has only been smogged twice. Im not a car tech, smog tech, or computer tech. so i need more info. so I guess what I'm asking, and from my understanding, they will only be doing a "visual" check, so how will they check for smog illegal modifications if they won't be hooking the car up to the sniffer?

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quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
http://www.smogtips.com/new-smog-law-AB-2289.cfm

So what does this exactly mean, does it mean I can have my car outrageously modified and pass smog as long as the check engine light isn't on? Or is that just wishful thinking?

as long as the computer checks out ok and it passes visual then you are good

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quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
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Originally posted by kingroy:
http://www.smogtips.com/new-smog-law-AB-2289.cfm

So what does this exactly mean, does it mean I can have my car outrageously modified and pass smog as long as the check engine light isn't on? Or is that just wishful thinking?

as long as the computer checks out ok and it passes visual then you are good
this they'll plug in the obd2 to make sure all smog crap is working, 22 other states do it like this already

in other words as long as your cats are fine dont trip about smog, my cams going in now [Big Grin]

[ December 31, 2012, 12:17 AM: Message edited by: SwEeT 03 Gt ]

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What about carb'd cars
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what they are saying is you can modify your car as long as it passes visual and the ecu isnt tripping. longtubes are still illegal turbos are etc. if it wont pass visual you dont pass smog and of course if your computer alerts the tech by way of obd-II diagnostic port you dont pass but a efi mmr stroker in a cobra with a smog legal blower shorties etc and no cel will pass
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[ December 31, 2012, 12:24 AM: Message edited by: 84 Fox ]

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looks like i need to find a dummy cat cover for my test pipe.
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this is for 2000 and newer cars only
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quote:
Originally posted by 84 Fox:
What about carb'd cars

I don't think they made smog cars in 2000. [Big Grin] . Its inly changes the test for 2000 (obdII) c ars and up. All cars befprfe that are stil the same. But they will do a visual. If you got long tubes u no pass. Gotta still have carb #'s. The station from whats I hear will be ran by the state not private owners.

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so 2000 and up can run turndowns?

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OBDII is 96 and up ya?

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Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
OBDII is 96 and up ya?

96 to 2000 obd2 is very basic an is not any better then obd1
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2000 and newer OBDII cars only have to pass a visual inspection, check for emissions equipment functionality, and CEL code reading.

If you have no cats, deleted EGR, etc etc, you still fail
If you have 49-state non-CARB legal parts, you still fail
If you have any monitors turned off in your tune, you still fail
If you have a CEL on, you still fail

All this effects is people who fail the tailpipe sniffer by a few ppm, but otherwise pass every other aspect of a smog inspection.

Eliminating the tailpipe testing reduces the amount of equipment needed to run a smog shop, and the amount of time to perform the inspection, which should reduce the cost of a smog inspection for the average motorist.

Now, for shops who are lenient on aftermarket mods and visual inspections... then of course this opens up a world of possibilities...

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[ 2013-04-01, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: TopNotch T-TOP ]

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quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
2000 and newer OBDII cars only have to pass a visual inspection, check for emissions equipment functionality, and CEL code reading.

If you have no cats, deleted EGR, etc etc, you still fail
If you have 49-state non-CARB legal parts, you still fail
If you have any monitors turned off in your tune, you still fail
If you have a CEL on, you still fail

All this effects is people who fail the tailpipe sniffer by a few ppm, but otherwise pass every other aspect of a smog inspection.

Eliminating the tailpipe testing reduces the amount of equipment needed to run a smog shop, and the amount of time to perform the inspection, which should reduce the cost of a smog inspection for the average motorist.

Now, for shops who are lenient on aftermarket mods and visual inspections... then of course this opens up a world of possibilities...

I know in a enhanced area you were allowed to have at least one monitor not set and you could still pass.. or is it that all of the moniters have to be set now now????

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So when the smoke clears, the question is will this make it easier or harder for cars to pass smog in the state of CA?

If I am reading this right, here is what I see:

For 1976-1999, no change.

For 2000-up, no more tailpipe test. In theory, this should make it easier to pass. You just have to make sure that all your systems are up to snuff, there is no CEL, and you can pass both the visual and OBD-II system tests.

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