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Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on :
 
Whos been following it & what are your thoughts? Im watching the Presidential speech right now as I type this.
 
Posted by Infamous5.0 (Member # 1745) on :
 
OBAMA WILL WIN!!! [patriot]
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
Theyre doin waay to much. The SAME speeches i heard four years ago, and theyre sayin our shit isnt still declining. Lies!

Romney 2012!!! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :
 
Charlie sheen 2012
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
[patriot] [patriot] Obama [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
I didn't feel the need to watch either one. Nothing anyone in the democrat or republican party will change how I'm planning on voting in November. I'll just leave it at that for now.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT 03 Gt:
[patriot] [patriot] Obama [patriot] [patriot]

Blind puppet
 
Posted by Outlaw_Stangz (Member # 3926) on :
 
Fuck the republicans and democrats. While we fight over party ideology they keep on stacking that money.....
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
Did you hear what obama whispered to his wife when she walked off the stage after introducing him?

"Now, get back in the kitchen!"

Lol i was joking with my wife about this, it was not pretty.

Obama gets my vote. [patriot]
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
If you look back to the Republican Convention where the high light was Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in front of a virtually all white and older crowd, the Democratic convention was full of highlights:
Bill Clinton's Speech that hit a home run right out of the park, Michele Obama's speech where she said " when you walk through the door of opportunity, you don't slam it shut on the person behind you."
The president of the United States Barack Obama making his case to the American people.

One other Big difference between the Democratic and republican convention: the crowd: Basically nothing but older white people at the Republican convention and no children while at the Democratic convention, the crowd had white, black, asian Hispanic, indian Arab.... and children
If you want America to be a place were every one has a chance to succeed, not just the wealthy and well connected, then you must vote for Barack Obama! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]
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[Whoo Whooooo!] [Whoo Whooooo!] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
We gave obummer a chance and he's the first president since jimmy carter to not have any growth. Government is in a lot more shit than they were before. Obummers gonna end up like the last 1 term president, who was that again? Yep carter, adios.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
We gave obummer a chance and he's the first president since jimmy carter to not have any growth. Government is in a lot more shit than they were before. Obummers gonna end up like the last 1 term president, who was that again? Yep carter, adios.

I have to agree. Facts are facts..... You can only bash the previous administration for your lack of improvement for so long.

I can tell you right now from experience in the school food service industry that things are worse now then in previous years. Healthy foods are already being served. We didn't need our First Lady ( who could afford to miss a few meals herself ) doesn't need to go out there and bash the school lunch program... The real problem with childhood obesity is kids don't get any exercise. We cut P.E classes and have children who are addicted to technology. Kids don't burn off calories like we did as kids.

Oh and along with breakfast, snacks & lunch being served.... For free and reduced lunches. We are also paying for DINNERS. Yep that's right tax payers...... Our kids are getting everymeal for free or damn near free at our public schools. [BS flag]


If you think this is a great thing, then vote for Obama and the democrat party. Just remember when your getting less on your paycheck you voted for this type of government spending.
 
Posted by thrashed (Member # 9752) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
We gave obummer a chance and he's the first president since jimmy carter to not have any growth. Government is in a lot more shit than they were before. Obummers gonna end up like the last 1 term president, who was that again? Yep carter, adios.

I believe the last one term president was a bush.
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:


Oh and along with breakfast, snacks & lunch being served.... For free and reduced lunches. We are also paying for DINNERS. Yep that's right tax payers...... Our kids are getting everymeal for free or damn near free at our public schools. [BS flag]


If you think this is a great thing, then vote for Obama and the democrat party. Just remember when your getting less on your paycheck you voted for this type of government spending. [/QB]

It makes me feel real good that my tax dollars are being spent on free lunches for poor kids!

You are just like the rest of the Republican scum that have no problem giving tax breaks to oil companies that already make billions in profits or millionaires that pay less in taxes that a teacher or a plumber, but cry a river when poor kids are getting a free lunch. you should be ashamed of your self for being so selfish.

The Republican party motto: Screw you, I have mine and you are out on your own. [BS flag]
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
janet did you become this way before or after you realized you had a womans name?
 
Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :
 
voting but NOT for that toad
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
I'll vote YO'MAMA before Obama! He's trying to get everyone fatter and lazier until this country bankrupts and implodes
Could barely stand to listen to all the [BS flag] tonight, made me sick all the lies.
Couldn't even show us the most wanted man in America, for 10 years's body!! Dumped that piece of shit's body in the ocean for a proper burial? So now the sharks can feed on him....WTF..... c'mon, we're not that stupid! Or are we?
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
I dont like how the democratic party makes it look cool to be poor and people that make good money are evil. It used to be people would come to the usa with the notion that if you work hard, you'll eventually prosper (unfortunately, doesnt happen all the time but we're not in a perfect world). So now they want to bash the people who worked hard, took chances, and suceeded. Not to mention the rich are the ones who sign our checks! Its fuckin stupid to me...
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I dont like how the democratic party makes it look cool to be poor and people that make good money are evil. It used to be people would come to the usa with the notion that if you work hard, you'll eventually prosper (unfortunately, doesnt happen all the time but we're not in a perfect world). So now they want to bash the people who worked hard, took chances, and suceeded. Not to mention the rich are the ones who sign our checks! Its fuckin stupid to me...

A fucking men!!!!!
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
I'll vote YO'MAMA before Obama! He's trying to get everyone fatter and lazier until this country bankrupts and implodes
Could barely stand to listen to all the [BS flag] tonight, made me sick all the lies.
Couldn't even show us the most wanted man in America, for 10 years's body!! Dumped that piece of shit's body in the ocean for a proper burial? So now the sharks can feed on him....WTF..... c'mon, we're not that stupid! Or are we?

We are that stupid. America gets what it deserves. Elect a communist/socialist to the white house last term. Then this term you get a businessman that is out of touch with middle class Americans or you get to re-elect the communist. Excellent choices, I love politicians. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
I'll vote YO'MAMA before Obama! He's trying to get everyone fatter and lazier until this country bankrupts and implodes
Could barely stand to listen to all the [BS flag] tonight, made me sick all the lies.
Couldn't even show us the most wanted man in America, for 10 years's body!! Dumped that piece of shit's body in the ocean for a proper burial? So now the sharks can feed on him....WTF..... c'mon, we're not that stupid! Or are we?

We are that stupid. America gets what it deserves. Elect a communist/socialist to the white house last term. Then this term you get a businessman that is out of touch with middle class Americans or you get to re-elect the communist. Excellent choices, I love politicians. [Roll Eyes]
Middle class? there is no more middle class, there's low class or upper class, if you guys are mad at obama for giving most of us working class a tax break then we have a problem. Romney won't even show his tax return because he got taxed less percent than most of us on here and he wants to keep it that way. The 2 bush's messed it up for any republican for the rest of my life, i'll take my chances with obama [patriot]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
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Irony at its best. Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.
 
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
I'll vote YO'MAMA before Obama! He's trying to get everyone fatter and lazier until this country bankrupts and implodes
Could barely stand to listen to all the [BS flag] tonight, made me sick all the lies.
Couldn't even show us the most wanted man in America, for 10 years's body!! Dumped that piece of shit's body in the ocean for a proper burial? So now the sharks can feed on him....WTF..... c'mon, we're not that stupid! Or are we?

We are that stupid. America gets what it deserves. Elect a communist/socialist to the white house last term. Then this term you get a businessman that is out of touch with middle class Americans or you get to re-elect the communist. Excellent choices, I love politicians. [Roll Eyes]
Middle class? there is no more middle class, there's low class or upper class, if you guys are mad at obama for giving most of us working class a tax break then we have a problem. Romney won't even show his tax return because he got taxed less percent than most of us on here and he wants to keep it that way. The 2 bush's messed it up for any republican for the rest of my life, i'll take my chances with obama [patriot]
Wrong!! I'm middle class and still a student.. Go OBAMA!!
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I dont like how the democratic party makes it look cool to be poor and people that make good money are evil. It used to be people would come to the usa with the notion that if you work hard, you'll eventually prosper (unfortunately, doesnt happen all the time but we're not in a perfect world). So now they want to bash the people who worked hard, took chances, and suceeded. Not to mention the rich are the ones who sign our checks! Its fuckin stupid to me...

I like this Stan. Obama is saying its ok to be poor and now we can all be poor together.
I'm not saying Romney is any better, but that speech last night was that things are really looking great in our future but there not at all.
Look around everyone, just look around and you'll see it's getting worse so quit lying to us you socialist [patriot]
 
Posted by Infamous5.0 (Member # 1745) on :
 
A great man said "President Obama inherited a wreck of an economy. Republicans left him a total mess, he hasn't finished cleaning it up yet, so fire him and put us back in.

Also, why do some of you homosexuals feel the need to insult someone just because they either like/voting for Obama or romney? We all have different views/reasons for either or.
 
Posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR (Member # 10170) on :
 
There is issues on both ends but I like my chances with Obama better. A "business" man as president lol pass. Take a look at how corporate business is run in this country, we don't need someone with that sort of ideology as president. [patriot]
 
Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
I would rather have a business man as prez then a career politician. Obama has never been anything but a politician. Our first presidents were farmers and generals. Now we have career politicians. You think that's better than someone who knows how to run a successful business?
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Infamous5.0:
A great man said "President Obama inherited a wreck of an economy. Republicans left him a total mess, he hasn't finished cleaning it up yet, so fire him and put us back in.

Also, why do some of you homosexuals feel the need to insult someone just because they either like/voting for Obama or romney? We all have different views/reasons for either or.

this is cafords [dance]
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
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Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR:
There is issues on both ends but I like my chances with Obama better. A "business" man as president lol pass. Take a look at how corporate business is run in this country, we don't need someone with that sort of ideology as president. [patriot]

Because have someone who believes those company's have too much money and should give more of it to the government, who can't even figure out how to balance a budget? Maybe if the state & federal government were run by accountable retired business owners we wouldn't be so far in the RED.

At least every business owner understands the concept of spending less money then you take in. Career Politicans like our President don't know what owning and operating a real business is like. Look at Nancy P..... She made sure to get waivers for her employees of the company's she part owner in from The Health Bill she pressured everyone to pass.
When one of the main Cheerleaders is opting out of it, you have to figure it must be bad for businesses [Wink]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
I would rather have a business man as prez then a career politician. Obama has never been anything but a politician. Our first presidents were farmers and generals. Now we have career politicians. You think that's better than someone who knows how to run a successful business?

I agree 100%

I wish everyone in congress, the senate & our president owned and operated a company at some point in their lives.
We give these men power over our economy who most havent had REAL JOBS.... Other then running their mouths and bad mouthing their opponents. That's all career politicians are good at.
( Here's an example to stress my point of view.)

Would you trust Someone to work on your car who's only read about working on cars, went to school to learn about cars their whole life, but never really worked on cars or a real mechanic with on the job experience???
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
I would rather have a business man as prez then a career politician. Obama has never been anything but a politician. Our first presidents were farmers and generals. Now we have career politicians. You think that's better than someone who knows how to run a successful business?

Don't forget, a lawyer too at that.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
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Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
That awkward moment when you realize you're bitching about politics on a car forum, and none of your opinions actually matter, nor will they change how things will end up in this country [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 510cpskid (Member # 8277) on :
 
I don't get how you guys believe a president who gives 500 million to a company, which gains zero or little outcome is a good president?
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 510cpskid:
I don't get how you guys believe a president who gives 500 million to a company, which gains zero or little outcome is a good president?

Thats because his buddies ran it lol
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
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Irony at its best. Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

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Go Obama!!
 
Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on :
 


[ September 08, 2012, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: lxhatch5.0 ]
 
Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
If you look back to the Republican Convention where the high light was Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in front of a virtually all white and older crowd, the Democratic convention was full of highlights:
Bill Clinton's Speech that hit a home run right out of the park, Michele Obama's speech where she said " when you walk through the door of opportunity, you don't slam it shut on the person behind you."
The president of the United States Barack Obama making his case to the American people.

One other Big difference between the Democratic and republican convention: the crowd: Basically nothing but older white people at the Republican convention and no children while at the Democratic convention, the crowd had white, black, asian Hispanic, indian Arab.... and children
If you want America to be a place were every one has a chance to succeed, not just the wealthy and well connected, then you must vote for Barack Obama!

WELL SAID....
Ppl don't know that Romney has offshore bank accounts, and that he wants to tax us for cutting taxes on the millionaires. Ppl complain about how Mexicans (b/c obviously all hispanics are Mexicans) come here and take over "all" the jobs. Yet Romney outsources jobs here in the USA and takes them too other countries, and is for other corporations doing the same. Corporate loopholes that affect u and me, and the countless of ppl with no jobs or income.

Also Romney is a Mormon and he donates a hefty amount too the church. The mormons have churches(Temples) in Salt Lake City and the biggest most extravagant Temple is not open to all. Only the very "chosen" few, the ppl that donate the most amount of $$$$ or are part of the commonwealth can go inside. No one told me i have been too Utah and witnessed it. What happened too equality?

If ur not a millionaire, or part of a corporation and are voting for Romney. U should look more under the surface, Romney has too be more transparent. You have too understand his gameplan, his background.


And too the ppl calling Obama communist/socialist, lol are kidding me? Congress controls the Gov, every single bill has too be passed trough Congress before the President has a say. Obama has the balls and common sense too stand upp to mediocre bills.

And i dnt even want too get into his views on foreign affairs, if Romney is elected Prez strap upp ur boots. Shit will hit the fan....

Has anyone else noticed the banners/signs that ppl rooting for Romney hold up? Lol alot of misspelling and broken down grammar, sentences that make no sense. Some sad fucking shit, thats the type off ppl that voted Bush. SOB
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lxhatch5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
If you look back to the Republican Convention where the high light was Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in front of a virtually all white and older crowd, the Democratic convention was full of highlights:
Bill Clinton's Speech that hit a home run right out of the park, Michele Obama's speech where she said " when you walk through the door of opportunity, you don't slam it shut on the person behind you."
The president of the United States Barack Obama making his case to the American people.

One other Big difference between the Democratic and republican convention: the crowd: Basically nothing but older white people at the Republican convention and no children while at the Democratic convention, the crowd had white, black, asian Hispanic, indian Arab.... and children
If you want America to be a place were every one has a chance to succeed, not just the wealthy and well connected, then you must vote for Barack Obama!

WELL SAID....
Ppl don't know that Romney has offshore bank accounts, and that he wants to tax us for cutting taxes on the millionaires. Ppl complain about how Mexicans (b/c obviously all hispanics are Mexicans) come here and take over "all" the jobs. Yet Romney outsources jobs here in the USA and takes them too other countries, and is for other corporations doing the same. Corporate loopholes that affect u and me, and the countless of ppl with no jobs or income.

Also Romney is a Mormon and he donates a hefty amount too the church. The mormons have churches(Temples) in Salt Lake City and the biggest most extravagant Temple is not open to all. Only the very "chosen" few, the ppl that donate the most amount of $$$$ or are part of the commonwealth can go inside. No one told me i have been too Utah and witnessed it. What happened too equality?

If ur not a millionaire, or part of a corporation and are voting for Romney. U should look more under the surface, Romney has too be more transparent. You have too understand his gameplan, his background.


And too the ppl calling Obama communist/socialist, lol are kidding me? Congress controls the Gov, every single bill has too be passed trough Congress before the President has a say. Obama has the balls and common sense too stand upp to mediocre bills.

And i dnt even want too get into his views on foreign affairs, if Romney is elected Prez strap upp ur boots. Shit will hit the fan....

Has anyone else noticed the banners/signs that ppl rooting for Romney hold up? Lol alot of misspelling and broken down grammar, sentences that make no sense. Some sad fucking shit, thats the type off ppl that voted Bush. SOB

Who cares if Romney is a mormon, Obama is a muslim. Who gives a shit
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

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Go Obama!!

a lot of that info is false, where are you getting your information???
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
If you look back to the Republican Convention where the high light was Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in front of a virtually all white and older crowd, the Democratic convention was full of highlights:
Bill Clinton's Speech that hit a home run right out of the park, Michele Obama's speech where she said " when you walk through the door of opportunity, you don't slam it shut on the person behind you."
The president of the United States Barack Obama making his case to the American people.

One other Big difference between the Democratic and republican convention: the crowd: Basically nothing but older white people at the Republican convention and no children while at the Democratic convention, the crowd had white, black, asian Hispanic, indian Arab.... and children
If you want America to be a place were every one has a chance to succeed, not just the wealthy and well connected, then you must vote for Barack Osama!

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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

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Go Obama!!

a lot of that info is false, where are you getting your information???
Not to mention that since obama got in i gotten a average of 1000 more on my tax returns and i'm pretty sure most people here did too cause he's giving the middle to low class a break instead of giving the rich all the tax breaks, and also has kept gas prices lower than bush did maybe because he's not making money off the gas like bush and his boys were.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

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Go Obama!!

a lot of that info is false, where are you getting your information???
Not to mention that since obama got in i gotten a average of 1000 more on my tax returns and i'm pretty sure most people here did too cause he's giving the middle to low class a break instead of giving the rich all the tax breaks, and also has kept gas prices lower than bush did maybe because he's not making money off the gas like bush and his boys were.
Great you got 1000 obama money, meanwhile we pushed through the debt ceiling and still in a threat of a double dip recession with no end near.

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

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Go Obama!!

a lot of that info is false, where are you getting your information???
Here you go:

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html

That site also lists it's sources (links to articles, some are directly from whitehouse.gov) therefore you can't call bluff ...

Carry on..
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by lxhatch5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
If you look back to the Republican Convention where the high light was Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair in front of a virtually all white and older crowd, the Democratic convention was full of highlights:
Bill Clinton's Speech that hit a home run right out of the park, Michele Obama's speech where she said " when you walk through the door of opportunity, you don't slam it shut on the person behind you."
The president of the United States Barack Obama making his case to the American people.

One other Big difference between the Democratic and republican convention: the crowd: Basically nothing but older white people at the Republican convention and no children while at the Democratic convention, the crowd had white, black, asian Hispanic, indian Arab.... and children
If you want America to be a place were every one has a chance to succeed, not just the wealthy and well connected, then you must vote for Barack Obama!

WELL SAID....
Ppl don't know that Romney has offshore bank accounts, and that he wants to tax us for cutting taxes on the millionaires. Ppl complain about how Mexicans (b/c obviously all hispanics are Mexicans) come here and take over "all" the jobs. Yet Romney outsources jobs here in the USA and takes them too other countries, and is for other corporations doing the same. Corporate loopholes that affect u and me, and the countless of ppl with no jobs or income.

Also Romney is a Mormon and he donates a hefty amount too the church. The mormons have churches(Temples) in Salt Lake City and the biggest most extravagant Temple is not open to all. Only the very "chosen" few, the ppl that donate the most amount of $$$$ or are part of the commonwealth can go inside. No one told me i have been too Utah and witnessed it. What happened too equality?

If ur not a millionaire, or part of a corporation and are voting for Romney. U should look more under the surface, Romney has too be more transparent. You have too understand his gameplan, his background.


And too the ppl calling Obama communist/socialist, lol are kidding me? Congress controls the Gov, every single bill has too be passed trough Congress before the President has a say. Obama has the balls and common sense too stand upp to mediocre bills.

And i dnt even want too get into his views on foreign affairs, if Romney is elected Prez strap upp ur boots. Shit will hit the fan....

Has anyone else noticed the banners/signs that ppl rooting for Romney hold up? Lol alot of misspelling and broken down grammar, sentences that make no sense. Some sad fucking shit, thats the type off ppl that voted Bush. SOB

Obama is a muslim.
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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Results are results, he hasn't fixed shit.

WRONG - try again!

 -


Go Obama!!

a lot of that info is false, where are you getting your information???
Not to mention that since obama got in i gotten a average of 1000 more on my tax returns and i'm pretty sure most people here did too cause he's giving the middle to low class a break instead of giving the rich all the tax breaks, and also has kept gas prices lower than bush did maybe because he's not making money off the gas like bush and his boys were.
Great you got 1000 obama money, meanwhile we pushed through the debt ceiling and still in a threat of a double dip recession with no end near.

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No, i got my money, i still paid way more than i got back, but i rather have someone in there who's looking out for the average people, rather then the the select upper class who pays less taxes than us. and unless your the upper class who wants to make sure they get all the tax breaks they don't need, i couldn't imagine why you would even think about voting romney. And i'm real upset that i got a 1000 extra back instead of wasting billions on a pointless war and still paying higher gas prices than i'm paying now. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
The top 5% pays 70% of the tax revenue in america. I think theyve paid their fair share. Nuff said

[ September 08, 2012, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: SydewayzStan ]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
A fair tax bracket would be a flat tax. Why should we be punished for working overtime? Maybe if the government rewarded people for their hard work, we would have less depending on the government for a helping hand.

I'm tired of every time someone bringing up our national debt & our inability to cut spending they try & change the subject. Fiscally conservative democrats & republicans are attacked every time it's brought up. We can't escape the fact we spend more money then we have. If we took ALLl the rich people's money it wouldn't put a dent in our national debt.

Just think about how much money comes out of your check goes to just the federal government in taxes every year..... Now times that by every working American. Then add our sales taxes, gas taxes, taxes on money's earned in your savings account, a family member dies and leaves you money.... You have to pay tax on that........ We don't have a taxing problem........ Our Politicains Have A SPENDING PROBLEM.
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
Lmao... Obama killed Osama.

Government is smaller.
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Lmao... SEALS killed Osama.

Government is bigger than its ever been.

fixed [patriot]
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Lmao... SEALS killed Osama.

Government is bigger than its ever been.

fixed [patriot]
I don't know who's more blind, die-hard Dems who still think Obama is a great President, or die-hard Repubs who think George W. Bush did a great job.
 
Posted by S V T (Member # 11387) on :
 
DONT THINK IM VOTING THIS YEAR, MAYBE TO SAVE OUR WEAPONS RIGHTS BUT NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT
 
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
I would rather have a business man as prez then a career politician. Obama has never been anything but a politician. Our first presidents were farmers and generals. Now we have career politicians. You think that's better than someone who knows how to run a successful business?

I agree 100%

I wish everyone in congress, the senate & our president owned and operated a company at some point in their lives.
We give these men power over our economy who most havent had REAL JOBS.... Other then running their mouths and bad mouthing their opponents. That's all career politicians are good at.
( Here's an example to stress my point of view.)

Would you trust Someone to work on your car who's only read about working on cars, went to school to learn about cars their whole life, but never really worked on cars or a real mechanic with on the job experience???

Being president is not just based on what kind of experience they have. Steve Jobs turned apple around, would he have been a good president? Based on your logic, yes. And he voted democratic. Basically my point is, presidents should be picked on moral values, how they handle tough decisions, and wether you trust most. Romney morals are in the spot light for what he did at Bain, or at least that's what hes getting hammered on. His foreign policy is getting hammered, and the issue of trust is being questioned because he's only released 2 years of tax returns. And only one of them are complete. Presidents have advisors to advise them what to do, and a good president listens to all his advisers and makes the best decision he can make at the time, and that decision comes from past life experiences.

How could Romney understand the middle class when he's never been a middle class citizen?

How could Romney understand a struggling college student when he's never been a struggling college student?

How could Romney understand the poor, when's he's never worked with the poor?

Romney understands business, business, and business. And what he understands about business is making a profit, not benefiting the employee.

So if you're a rich guy, then i believe that you trust Romney to take care of you if elected. But a poor lower middle class citizen such as myself, that have never received government assistance, nor has any of my family other than the GI bill will not vote for Romney, because I don't trust him. Or put it this way, I trust him a lot less than i trust Obama.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Obama's failed as a President, he hasn't done anything for this country except bailed out GM( which i heard is failing again) given millions to a company that went bankrupt for solar power and gave more money bailing out the banks than Bush spent in 8 years as President.
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
Obama's failed as a President, he hasn't done anything for this country except bailed out GM( which i heard is failing again) given millions to a company that went bankrupt for solar power and gave more money bailing out the banks than Bush spent in 8 years as President.

Wildfire is inncorrect. President Obama has done quite a lot.

Some of the highlights;

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.


2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.


22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants: New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion. Will also significantly reduce carbon emissions and, with other regulations, comprises what’s been called Obama’s “stealth climate policy.”

23. Passed Credit Card Reforms: Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.

24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws: Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.

25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court: Nominated and obtained confirmation for Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic and third woman to serve, in 2009; and Elena Kagan, the fourth woman to serve, in 2010. They replaced David Souter and John Paul Stevens, respectively.

26. Improved Food Safety System: In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.

27. Achieved New START Treaty: Signed with Russia (2010) and won ratification in Congress (2011) of treaty that limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads (down from 2,200) and 700 launchers (down from more than 1,400), and reestablished and strengthened a monitoring and transparency program that had lapsed in 2009, through which each country can monitor the other.

28. Expanded National Service: Signed Serve America Act in 2009, which authorized a tripling of the size of AmeriCorps. Program grew 13 percent to 85,000 members across the country by 2012, when new House GOP majority refused to appropriate more funds for further expansion.

29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection: Signed Omnibus Public Lands Management Act (2009), which designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, created thousands of miles of recreational and historic trails, and protected more than 1,000 miles of rivers.

30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco: Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (2009). Nine years in the making and long resisted by the tobacco industry, the law mandates that tobacco manufacturers disclose all ingredients, obtain FDA approval for new tobacco products, and expand the size and prominence of cigarette warning labels, and bans the sale of misleadingly labeled “light” cigarette brands and tobacco sponsorship of entertainment events.

31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders: Issued executive order in 2009 requiring all federal agencies to make plans to soften their environmental impacts by 2020. Goals include 30 percent reduction in fleet gasoline use, 26 percent boost in water efficiency, and sustainability requirements for 95 percent of all federal contracts. Because federal government is the country’s single biggest purchaser of goods and services, likely to have ripple effects throughout the economy for years to come.

32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act: Signed 2010 legislation that reduces sentencing disparity between crack versus powder cocaine possessionfrom100 to1 to 18 to1.

33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense: Cut the Reagan-era “Star Wars” missile defense budget, saving $1.4 billion in 2010, and canceled plans to station antiballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic in favor of sea-based defense plan focused on Iran and North Korea.

34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown: After winning agreement from congressional Republicans and Democrats in summer 2011 budget deal to reduce projected defense spending by $450 billion, proposed new DoD budget this year with cuts of that size and a new national defense strategy that would shrink ground forces from 570,000 to 490,000 over the next ten years while increasing programs in intelligence gathering and cyberwarfare.

35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission: Allowed the expensive ($1 billion per launch), badly designed, dangerous shuttle program to make its final launch on July 8, 2011. Cut off funding for even more bloated and problem-plagued Bush-era Constellation program to build moon base in favor of support for private-sector low-earth orbit ventures, research on new rocket technologies for long-distance manned flight missions, and unmanned space exploration, including the largest interplanetary rover ever launched, which will investigate Mars’s potential to support life.

36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology: As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels.

37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests: Devoted $330 million in stimulus money to pay two consortia of states and universities to create competing versions of new K-12 student performance tests based on latest psychometric research. New tests could transform the learning environment in vast majority of public school classrooms beginning in 2014.

38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges: In effort to fight predatory practices of some for-profit colleges, Department of Education issued “gainful employment” regulations in 2011 cutting off commercially focused schools from federal student aid funding if more than 35 percent of former students aren’t paying off their loans and/or if the average former student spends more than 12 percent of his or her total earnings servicing student loans.

39. Improved School Nutrition: In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.

40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections: Signed Hate Crimes Prevention Act (2009), which expands existing hate crime protections to include crimes based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender, or disability, in addition to race, color, religion, or national origin.

41. Avoided Scandal: As of November 2011, served longer than any president in decades without a scandal, as measured by the appearance of the word “scandal” (or lack thereof) on the front page of the Washington Post.

42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill: Though lacking statutory power to compel British Petroleum to act, used moral authority of his office to convince oil company to agree in 2010 to a $20 billion fund to compensate victims of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico; $6.5 billion already paid out without lawsuits. By comparison, it took nearly two decades for plaintiffs in the Exxon Valdez Alaska oil spill case to receive $1.3 billion.


43. Created Recovery.gov: Web site run by independent board of inspectors general looking for fraud and abuse in stimulus spending, provides public with detailed information on every contract funded by $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Thanks partly to this transparency, board has uncovered very little fraud, and Web site has become national model: “The stimulus has done more to promote transparency at almost all levels of government than any piece of legislation in recent memory,” reports Governing magazine.

44. Pushed Broadband Coverage: Proposed and obtained in 2011 Federal Communications Commission approval for a shift of $8 billion in subsidies away from landlines and toward broadband Internet for lower-income rural families.

45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children: Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.

46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide: In 2009, EPA declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, allowing the agency to regulate its production.

47. Expanded Stem Cell Research: In 2009, eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, which shows promise in treating spinal injuries, among many other areas.

48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers: In 2009, signed Claims Resolution Act, which provided $4.6 billion in funding for a legal settlement with black and Native American farmers who the government cheated out of loans and natural resource royalties in years past.

49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Appointed two envoys to Sudan and personally attended a special UN meeting on the area. Through U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, helped negotiate a peaceful split in 2011.

50. Killed the F-22: In 2009, ended further purchases of Lockheed Martin single-seat, twin-engine, fighter aircraft, which cost $358 million apiece. Though the military had 187 built, the plane has never flown a single combat mission. Eliminating it saved $4 billion.

[ September 12, 2012, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: cobraracer46 ]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
39. Improved School Nutrition: In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.
Let's just say of all the things you listed this one I am dealing with right now on an everyday basis. The food we have been serving to public schools hasn't been the problem. The problem has been a lack of exercise & burning calories. You of all people should know if you don't burn off what you eat your going to gain weight. ( Just look at our first lady. She def eats more then she can burn off.)
I don't know about you. But I went to public school here in Vallejo. Most of the kids on free lunch had more Jordan's & parents drove nicer cars then my middle class parents did.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
So if you're a rich guy, then i believe that you trust Romney to take care of you if elected. But a poor lower middle class citizen such as myself....
So your " Poor Lower Middle Class ? "
Really? [Confused]
Your sig says you own a 03 cobra vert. I'd say your not poor. You probably also have a 100.00 or more cell phone bill right?
How about a Flat Screen TV? Extra cable channels to go along with it?
Yeah that's not POOR.. That's just spending your money on luxury items that we all WANT to own, but really don't need in order to live. People don't know how good they have it untill they see how others are living. Poor people don't have cell phones and nice cars. [Wink]
Thats what's really wrong with this country. Most people's thought's and perceptions on what really matters in life.
Just my .02
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
quote:
So if you're a rich guy, then i believe that you trust Romney to take care of you if elected. But a poor lower middle class citizen such as myself....
So your " Poor Lower Middle Class ? "
Really? [Confused]
Your sig says you own a 03 cobra vert. I'd say your not poor. You probably also have a 100.00 or more cell phone bill right?
How about a Flat Screen TV? Extra cable channels to go along with it?
Yeah that's not POOR.. That's just spending your money on luxury items that we all WANT to own, but really don't need in order to live. People don't know how good they have it untill they see how others are living. Poor people don't have cell phones and nice cars. [Wink]
Thats what's really wrong with this country. Most people's thought's and perceptions on what really matters in life.
Just my .02

I am not Dem. or Rep but I must say that liberals are so full of shit !! Its unbelievable.
[patriot]
 
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on :
 
Slowback for prez 2012!

For real though very good points
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
Slowback for prez 2012!

For real though very good points

He's got my vote
[patriot]
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
Obama's failed as a President, he hasn't done anything for this country except bailed out GM( which i heard is failing again) given millions to a company that went bankrupt for solar power and gave more money bailing out the banks than Bush spent in 8 years as President.

Wildfire is inncorrect. President Obama has done quite a lot.

Some of the highlights;

1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.


2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran: In effort to deter Iran’s nuclear program, signed Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act (2010) to punish firms and individuals who aid Iran’s petroleum sector. In late 2011 and early 2012, coordinated with other major Western powers to impose sanctions aimed at Iran’s banks and with Japan, South Korea, and China to shift their oil purchases away from Iran.


22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants: New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion. Will also significantly reduce carbon emissions and, with other regulations, comprises what’s been called Obama’s “stealth climate policy.”

23. Passed Credit Card Reforms: Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.

24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws: Signed Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, giving women who are paid less than men for the same work the right to sue their employers after they find out about the discrimination, even if that discrimination happened years ago. Under previous law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the statute of limitations on such suits ran out 180 days after the alleged discrimination occurred, even if the victims never knew about it.

25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court: Nominated and obtained confirmation for Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic and third woman to serve, in 2009; and Elena Kagan, the fourth woman to serve, in 2010. They replaced David Souter and John Paul Stevens, respectively.

26. Improved Food Safety System: In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.

27. Achieved New START Treaty: Signed with Russia (2010) and won ratification in Congress (2011) of treaty that limits each country to 1,550 strategic warheads (down from 2,200) and 700 launchers (down from more than 1,400), and reestablished and strengthened a monitoring and transparency program that had lapsed in 2009, through which each country can monitor the other.

28. Expanded National Service: Signed Serve America Act in 2009, which authorized a tripling of the size of AmeriCorps. Program grew 13 percent to 85,000 members across the country by 2012, when new House GOP majority refused to appropriate more funds for further expansion.

29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection: Signed Omnibus Public Lands Management Act (2009), which designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, created thousands of miles of recreational and historic trails, and protected more than 1,000 miles of rivers.

30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco: Signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (2009). Nine years in the making and long resisted by the tobacco industry, the law mandates that tobacco manufacturers disclose all ingredients, obtain FDA approval for new tobacco products, and expand the size and prominence of cigarette warning labels, and bans the sale of misleadingly labeled “light” cigarette brands and tobacco sponsorship of entertainment events.

31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders: Issued executive order in 2009 requiring all federal agencies to make plans to soften their environmental impacts by 2020. Goals include 30 percent reduction in fleet gasoline use, 26 percent boost in water efficiency, and sustainability requirements for 95 percent of all federal contracts. Because federal government is the country’s single biggest purchaser of goods and services, likely to have ripple effects throughout the economy for years to come.

32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act: Signed 2010 legislation that reduces sentencing disparity between crack versus powder cocaine possessionfrom100 to1 to 18 to1.

33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense: Cut the Reagan-era “Star Wars” missile defense budget, saving $1.4 billion in 2010, and canceled plans to station antiballistic missile systems in Poland and the Czech Republic in favor of sea-based defense plan focused on Iran and North Korea.

34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown: After winning agreement from congressional Republicans and Democrats in summer 2011 budget deal to reduce projected defense spending by $450 billion, proposed new DoD budget this year with cuts of that size and a new national defense strategy that would shrink ground forces from 570,000 to 490,000 over the next ten years while increasing programs in intelligence gathering and cyberwarfare.

35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission: Allowed the expensive ($1 billion per launch), badly designed, dangerous shuttle program to make its final launch on July 8, 2011. Cut off funding for even more bloated and problem-plagued Bush-era Constellation program to build moon base in favor of support for private-sector low-earth orbit ventures, research on new rocket technologies for long-distance manned flight missions, and unmanned space exploration, including the largest interplanetary rover ever launched, which will investigate Mars’s potential to support life.

36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology: As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels.

37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests: Devoted $330 million in stimulus money to pay two consortia of states and universities to create competing versions of new K-12 student performance tests based on latest psychometric research. New tests could transform the learning environment in vast majority of public school classrooms beginning in 2014.

38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges: In effort to fight predatory practices of some for-profit colleges, Department of Education issued “gainful employment” regulations in 2011 cutting off commercially focused schools from federal student aid funding if more than 35 percent of former students aren’t paying off their loans and/or if the average former student spends more than 12 percent of his or her total earnings servicing student loans.

39. Improved School Nutrition: In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.

40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections: Signed Hate Crimes Prevention Act (2009), which expands existing hate crime protections to include crimes based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender, or disability, in addition to race, color, religion, or national origin.

41. Avoided Scandal: As of November 2011, served longer than any president in decades without a scandal, as measured by the appearance of the word “scandal” (or lack thereof) on the front page of the Washington Post.

42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill: Though lacking statutory power to compel British Petroleum to act, used moral authority of his office to convince oil company to agree in 2010 to a $20 billion fund to compensate victims of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico; $6.5 billion already paid out without lawsuits. By comparison, it took nearly two decades for plaintiffs in the Exxon Valdez Alaska oil spill case to receive $1.3 billion.


43. Created Recovery.gov: Web site run by independent board of inspectors general looking for fraud and abuse in stimulus spending, provides public with detailed information on every contract funded by $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Thanks partly to this transparency, board has uncovered very little fraud, and Web site has become national model: “The stimulus has done more to promote transparency at almost all levels of government than any piece of legislation in recent memory,” reports Governing magazine.

44. Pushed Broadband Coverage: Proposed and obtained in 2011 Federal Communications Commission approval for a shift of $8 billion in subsidies away from landlines and toward broadband Internet for lower-income rural families.

45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children: Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.

46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide: In 2009, EPA declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, allowing the agency to regulate its production.

47. Expanded Stem Cell Research: In 2009, eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, which shows promise in treating spinal injuries, among many other areas.

48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers: In 2009, signed Claims Resolution Act, which provided $4.6 billion in funding for a legal settlement with black and Native American farmers who the government cheated out of loans and natural resource royalties in years past.

49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Helped South Sudan Declare Independence: Appointed two envoys to Sudan and personally attended a special UN meeting on the area. Through U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, helped negotiate a peaceful split in 2011.

50. Killed the F-22: In 2009, ended further purchases of Lockheed Martin single-seat, twin-engine, fighter aircraft, which cost $358 million apiece. Though the military had 187 built, the plane has never flown a single combat mission. Eliminating it saved $4 billion.

That's quite a copy and paste there.

#1 This hasn't happened yet and when it does we're all gonna be fucked. It's going to be nice when your doctors are picked for you and your family.

#2 Yes that was passed and against the American peoples vote too. Obama crew snuck that in there when nobody was watching. The banks were still all hoarding the money for a long long time and weren't giving it out to us, that's for sure. Doesn't anyone remember that?
Then the criteria to get the loans from the banks was so ridiculous hardly any average American could get them to loan it to us. The banks were just hoarding it all.

#3 I really don't know anything about but I only know that Wall street is crooked so whatever this is probably doesn't do anything good for the common people.

#4 That war was getting ready to end anyways so this administration happen to take credit for it.

#5 Pretty much the same thing as #4

#6 Biggest crock of shit on Americans I've witnessed in a long long time. Refused to show us the body?!!! The most wanted man in America and dumped him in the ocean?!!! All these lives lost and money spent?!!!
Obama was so concerned about protecting the Muslim religion that he gave Osama a so called "proper burial" out at sea with no footage for us to see.....you should all have been outraged
Osama really deserved a proper burial???
Either they didn't really get him, he died earlier in the war, or we were severely scammed as Americans by our president!!

I guess it was a pact from one muslim brother to another.

I'm not going on to the rest of these due to my time and #6 got me to fired up...
 
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you guys are all wrong [Embarrassed]
 




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