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Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
Not bad for an otherwise stock engine.
Thought you guys might like to see this one due to the inquiry on the On3 kits and how inexpensive they are.
It is not the greatest kit on the market, that's for sure.....but for a lil something out of pocket it's not bad on a streetcar.

483rwhp / 449rwtq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZi1jL4E5kk
 
Posted by VENOMUS PONY 5.0 (Member # 7785) on :
 
Nice, I did alot of research on these kits more negative then Positive feedback. I was about to order one until I did my research.. Went with a supercharger instead. Let's see how long the welds last and turbo lasts. I heard they take a shit pretty fast. Other then that setup looks clean and some good numbers getting put down.. [burnout]
 
Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :
 
They have potential, but very terrible customer service and Chinese made parts. Upgrade everything that comes with the kit and it's not bad!

[ September 06, 2012, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R ]
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
The On 3 kit is terrible. I would not put On 3 kit on my Cobra, even if On3 gave it to me for free. The On3 turbo kit is all about cheap quality, piss poor engineering and to top it off, the On 3 kit is not smog legal.

Go with a Supercharger instead of the On 3 turbo kit. [burnout]
 
Posted by VADEl2 (Member # 10332) on :
 
I thought about it but decided on a custom forward facing kit. Once it is complete I will post pics of my setup.
 
Posted by PonyGT916 (Member # 12234) on :
 
Damn only if i had that kinda money !!! SWEET RIDE!!
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
Either way Nice install !! The vid was cool too, I liked the beat. [patriot]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
The On 3 kit is terrible. I would not put On 3 kit on my Cobra, even if On3 gave it to me for free. The On3 turbo kit is all about cheap quality, piss poor engineering and to top it off, the On 3 kit is not smog legal.

Go with a Supercharger instead of the On 3 turbo kit. [burnout]
Do you know ANY turbo kid made TODAY that is smog legal?... bzzz none...incon is no longer made....

but I do agree....now a B&G import kit...hell yeah I'd do that and have a fun daily driver
 
Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :
 
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
 
Posted by rollin5ive0 (Member # 8592) on :
 
i forget the name of the turbo setup but has anyone ever tried the turbo kit that mounts towards the back of the exhaust? ive seen and heard them on camaros but not on mustangs....im not sure they even make a mustang setup...and i cant for the life of me remember the name, i know its a little vauge but anyone know what im talkin about?? [Confused]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rollin5ive0:
i forget the name of the turbo setup but has anyone ever tried the turbo kit that mounts towards the back of the exhaust? ive seen and heard them on camaros but not on mustangs....im not sure they even make a mustang setup...and i cant for the life of me remember the name, i know its a little vauge but anyone know what im talkin about?? [Confused]
STS - waste of time
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
rear mounts suck, non-efficient, no matter how cool they might sound...
 
Posted by rollin5ive0 (Member # 8592) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by rollin5ive0:
i forget the name of the turbo setup but has anyone ever tried the turbo kit that mounts towards the back of the exhaust? ive seen and heard them on camaros but not on mustangs....im not sure they even make a mustang setup...and i cant for the life of me remember the name, i know its a little vauge but anyone know what im talkin about?? [Confused]
STS - waste of time
ahhh thank you, thats prob why they came and went! [Wink]
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
Ill say this as nice as i know how to: The song was cooler than the video, and/or what the video was about...
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by rollin5ive0:
i forget the name of the turbo setup but has anyone ever tried the turbo kit that mounts towards the back of the exhaust? ive seen and heard them on camaros but not on mustangs....im not sure they even make a mustang setup...and i cant for the life of me remember the name, i know its a little vauge but anyone know what im talkin about?? [Confused]
STS - waste of time
Yep, I put one on a friends '99 FRC and man talk about a pain in the fuckin' ass. Boost leaks every where, running 20ft of oil feed/return lines and vacuum hose blows balls, you have to wire up a pump to help return the oil. I would never again install or recommend one of these kits to ANYONE.

[ September 07, 2012, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: Greasy ]
 
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
Please note....I too agree that the On3 kits are poorly made and the turbo itself is a chinese knockoff.
A customer bought his car in with the kit and wanted to make some extra ponies.
I think this kit cost the guy like $1800 or so.
This is the 2nd 0n3 kit we've tuned, and honestly, this time around the car wanted to make more power.
If the bottom end on this car was built we would have made clear over 530rwhp.
Not to say that the kit will hold together for long, but decent power was made.
I'm in NO WAY trying to promote these kits....I would avoid them as well.
Just put this here because alot of people from this site have either called me, pm'd, or came by asking about this brand of turbo.
Yes....on3 has HORRIBLE customer service.
The entire time this car was here I could not get anyone on the phone over there. And on top of the that the voicemail box was full and no message could be left.
What's crazy is....JEGS now sells these kits.


quote:
rear mounts suck, non-efficient, no matter how cool they might sound...
Here's one we did that was pretty decent actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm_-9BAu3fs
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STEED:
Please note....I too agree that the On3 kits are poorly made and the turbo itself is a chinese knockoff.
A customer bought his car in with the kit and wanted to make some extra ponies.
I think this kit cost the guy like $1800 or so.
This is the 2nd 0n3 kit we've tuned, and honestly, this time around the car wanted to make more power.
If the bottom end on this car was built we would have made clear over 530rwhp.
Not to say that the kit will hold together for long, but decent power was made.
I'm in NO WAY trying to promote these kits....I would avoid them as well.
Just put this here because alot of people from this site have either called me, pm'd, or came by asking about this brand of turbo.
Yes....on3 has HORRIBLE customer service.
The entire time this car was here I could not get anyone on the phone over there. And on top of the that the voicemail box was full and no message could be left.
What's crazy is....JEGS now sells these kits.


quote:
rear mounts suck, non-efficient, no matter how cool they might sound...
Here's one we did that was pretty decent actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm_-9BAu3fs
thanks for the vidos as always...

and no offense in any way but your video of the rear mount shows great power but it also shows another thing...there is a LOT of smoke coming out of the exhaust which is one of the major problems with kits like those...it's just too far for the oil to have to travel to feed and scavenge off the turbos...in the long run, that can't be good for the turbos
 
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by STEED:
Please note....I too agree that the On3 kits are poorly made and the turbo itself is a chinese knockoff.
A customer bought his car in with the kit and wanted to make some extra ponies.
I think this kit cost the guy like $1800 or so.
This is the 2nd 0n3 kit we've tuned, and honestly, this time around the car wanted to make more power.
If the bottom end on this car was built we would have made clear over 530rwhp.
Not to say that the kit will hold together for long, but decent power was made.
I'm in NO WAY trying to promote these kits....I would avoid them as well.
Just put this here because alot of people from this site have either called me, pm'd, or came by asking about this brand of turbo.
Yes....on3 has HORRIBLE customer service.
The entire time this car was here I could not get anyone on the phone over there. And on top of the that the voicemail box was full and no message could be left.
What's crazy is....JEGS now sells these kits.


quote:
rear mounts suck, non-efficient, no matter how cool they might sound...
Here's one we did that was pretty decent actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm_-9BAu3fs
thanks for the vidos as always...

and no offense in any way but your video of the rear mount shows great power but it also shows another thing...there is a LOT of smoke coming out of the exhaust which is one of the major problems with kits like those...it's just too far for the oil to have to travel to feed and scavenge off the turbos...in the long run, that can't be good for the turbos
Oh no, you are correct sir.
The oil issue was the problem.....this car was built to be a sleeper. It looks stock on the outside as well as under the hood.
The owner knew of the oil issues before anything was purchased. Fortunetly this is just a toy for him it spends most of the year in a garage.
We did not build this car, only tuning.
 
Posted by yellowS281 (Member # 11570) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
How would this at 11 psi rip apart a pullied and ported termi when they make over 500rwhp and this only made 483?
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yellowS281:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
How would this at 11 psi rip apart a pullied and ported termi when they make over 500rwhp and this only made 483?
more linear power....run into a turbo car with a few less RW and you'll find out why
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yellowS281:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
How would this at 11 psi rip apart a pullied and ported termi when they make over 500rwhp and this only made 483?
Hey I kno a few ported/pullied termys that don't make 500rwhp lol but yes jasons right,turbo cars don't fuck around [burnout]
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
quote:
Originally posted by yellowS281:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
How would this at 11 psi rip apart a pullied and ported termi when they make over 500rwhp and this only made 483?
Hey I kno a few ported/pullied termys that don't make 500rwhp lol but yes jasons right,turbo cars don't fuck around [burnout]
Pound# for Pound# a turbo maximizes power more efficiently than a supercharger. So in theory, if you have two cars that are virtually the same, besides power adders. Even with the same amount of boost from each car, the turbo car should make more power.
 
Posted by Y2K 281 (Member # 10132) on :
 
Turbo cars will rip apart a pulled cobra IF the gearing is correct for the setup, they can shift fast enough to keep the turbo spinning hard, and if they brake boost. I have seen tons of videos of 70mm cars that get raped from a roll simply because of the things I listed above. Auto cars with turbos will simply tear shit up.
 
Posted by yellowS281 (Member # 11570) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nifty50:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
quote:
Originally posted by yellowS281:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 2T0NE:
[qb] made 03 cobra with a pulley hp [Roll Eyes]
this thing at 11 psi would rip apart a pulleyed and ported terminator...
How would this at 11 psi rip apart a pullied and ported termi when they make over 500rwhp and this only made 483?
Hey I kno a few ported/pullied termys that don't make 500rwhp lol but yes jasons right,turbo cars don't fuck around [burnout] [/iqb]
Pound# for Pound# a turbo maximizes power more efficiently than a supercharger. So in theory, if you have two cars that are virtually the same, besides power adders. Even with the same amount of boost from each car, the turbo car should make more power.
Nifty50- I understand that, but they arent virtually the same besides power adders, a pullied and ported cobra is making about 30rwhp more than the turbo car at 11psi. So even so if the turbo car is overtaking the supercharged car lb for lb it has to make up for the 30rwhp less that its making compared to a SC cobra to keep up.ssoo what im saying is this would not" rip apart" the pullied and ported cobra, it would be keeping up.
 
Posted by yellowS281 (Member # 11570) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Y2K 281:
Turbo cars will rip apart a pulled cobra IF the gearing is correct for the setup, they can shift fast enough to keep the turbo spinning hard, and if they brake boost. I have seen tons of videos of 70mm cars that get raped from a roll simply because of the things I listed above. Auto cars with turbos will simply tear shit up.
DEFINETLY! Auto cars with turbos are the best! But this car is a manual.
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
Maybe, maybe not... Im just stating facts, a turbo system is more efficient than a supercharger system. Why ? Because a turbo system runs off of exhaust gases, unlike a supercharger system that generates boost from the crank. In a supercharged system there are deficiencies, such as belt slippage, which create a loss of power.. In a turbo app that is not a problem.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Compound, only way to go.

There will be a day when sub 3 second 1/4 mile blast are attained all thanks to compound boost.
 




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