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Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
Just got the small block 5.0L out, and I'm ready to put the big block mod motor in!!! What you guys think about the swap?!

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[ July 10, 2012, 01:06 AM: Message edited by: TMA Turbo Donald ]
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
Another pic.

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Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :
 
TURBO DONALD FTW
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
LOL Thanks!!! It's going to be a lot of work to get it to work I assume. Thank you for the encouragement!
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
What kind of motor is that?
 
Posted by 91blackonblack (Member # 11591) on :
 
Wat tha fuck izzzzzz that?
 
Posted by SLOWFOX (Member # 11067) on :
 
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
Are there any informed enthusiasts who have done the Coyote swap, would happen to know if the Coyote harness would work? I have a donor 2011 harness to utilize if all else fails. However, any help and/or information would be great!

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Posted by 91blackonblack (Member # 11591) on :
 
I wouldnt never do that but 2 eaches on somethn new an different.good luck with ur build there.
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
You sir are correct!!! imagine the MPG that I could potentially get in a fox body with this combo!!..
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91blackonblack:
I wouldnt never do that but 2 eaches on somethn new an different.good luck with ur build there.
Thank you very much. I'm going to need a lot of luck and info for this build [Cool]
 
Posted by SLOWFOX (Member # 11067) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91blackonblack:
I wouldnt never do that but 2 eaches on somethn new an different.good luck with ur build there.
y not should be fun and reliable with good numbers. I can imagine hci will be shy of 400hp and still good on gas. Here are the specs hopefully op will chime in and say if this is the engine...

Base engine size: 3.7 L
Cam type: Double overhead cam (DOHC)
Cylinders: V6
Valves: 24
Valve timing: Variable
Torque: 280 ft-lbs. @ 4250 rpm
Horsepower: 305 hp @ 6500 rpm
Turning circle: 33.4 ft.
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91blackonblack:
I wouldnt never do that but 2 eaches on somethn new an different.good luck with ur build there.
y not should be fun and reliable with good numbers. I can imagine hci will be shy of 400hp and still good on gas. Here are the specs hopefully op will chime in and say if this is the engine...

Base engine size: 3.7 L
Cam type: Double overhead cam (DOHC)
Cylinders: V6
Valves: 24
Valve timing: Variable
Torque: 280 ft-lbs. @ 4250 rpm
Horsepower: 305 hp @ 6500 rpm
Turning circle: 33.4 ft.
Slowfox... You are correct. It's a 3.7 V6 from a 2011 Mustang with a 5 speed automatic (my car had an AOD). The block is aluminum, so there will be some additional weight savings. Strangely enough the block is wider by one inch on each side over the 5.0L (due to the DOHC configuration). However there will be a lot of room as the accessories are really close to the front of the engine, and of course it's a v6.
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Nice!!!! looks interesting
 
Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :
 
thats dope keep us updated with lots of pics


what k member are u gunna use?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMA Turbo Donald:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
imagine the MPG that I could potentially get in a fox body with this combo!!..
Buy a Prius, that is the worst reason ever to spend what you're spending on that conversion. I don't care if it's free, it's a lame reason to do it. Just saying
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
i didnt see a turbo kit in the picture.
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
i didnt see a turbo kit in the picture.
Sorry v-town coupe. No turbo yet. My brother has been fabricating V6 turbo kits for about 9 years now. I just used his name for my handle. He had a customer put down high 500 horse on a v6 99-04. I'm just currently just trying to get the necessary peices ready for the swap. I'll keep you all updated, however progress may be slow due to my work schedule.
 
Posted by TuxMask-Andy (Member # 3615) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by TMA Turbo Donald:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
imagine the MPG that I could potentially get in a fox body with this combo!!..
Buy a Prius, that is the worst reason ever to spend what you're spending on that conversion. I don't care if it's free, it's a lame reason to do it. Just saying
I see your point. If you wanna go fast then get a fast car. If you want a fuel efficient car then get a prius/civic. And your right, it is lame to do all this work for the sole purpose of just getting 30 mpg.

But I see nothing wrong in attempting to get a balanced car and the best of both worlds. Something that can get 305 hp stock and 30+ mpg at least.

My bro (tma turbo donald) and I got the engine/tranny/ecu harness for $2200 so far. These engines are dirt cheap from online wrecking yards. I'll have to custom fab a few things to make it work and trace all the wires.

We're thinking of going with a aje tubular k member, a arm, coil over setup.
 
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on :
 
Good to see something different but v6 is the worst sounding motor ever lol
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
Good to see something different but v6 is the worst sounding motor ever lol
I definitely agree its not going to have that nice tone. However, I think I can live with it.
 
Posted by 91blackonblack (Member # 11591) on :
 
I say stick your old motor back in it an get u a honda aswell that way you still can have both of saving gas an power wolds.an save u the headache an time.
 
Posted by TuxMask-Andy (Member # 3615) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
Good to see something different but v6 is the worst sounding motor ever lol
Idk. Porshe's, supra's, gtr, etc, or any high performance six cylinder all sound good to me but to each their own.

Stock 5.0 engine back in? 225 hp v8 and high millage engine just doesn't appeal to me. But maybe does for some people

[ July 10, 2012, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: TuxMask-Andy ]
 
Posted by 92MaroonGT (Member # 10397) on :
 
I have no idea why there is so much dislike on this topic. I think it's a very interesting, and nice idea. I can't wait to see the process, and one day see a youtube video of the first start up. V6 or not, it's a newer mustang engine going in a fox.


Good luck to the OP and brother.
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 92MaroonGT:
I have no idea why there is so much dislike on this topic. I think it's a very interesting, and nice idea. I can't wait to see the process, and one day see a youtube video of the first start up. V6 or not, it's a newer mustang engine going in a fox.


Good luck to the OP and brother.
Thank you for the support!!!!!
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TuxMask-Andy:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by TMA Turbo Donald:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
imagine the MPG that I could potentially get in a fox body with this combo!!..
Buy a Prius, that is the worst reason ever to spend what you're spending on that conversion. I don't care if it's free, it's a lame reason to do it. Just saying
I see your point. If you wanna go fast then get a fast car. If you want a fuel efficient car then get a prius/civic. And your right, it is lame to do all this work for the sole purpose of just getting 30 mpg.

But I see nothing wrong in attempting to get a balanced car and the best of both worlds. Something that can get 305 hp stock and 30+ mpg at least.

My bro (tma turbo donald) and I got the engine/tranny/ecu harness for $2200 so far. These engines are dirt cheap from online wrecking yards. I'll have to custom fab a few things to make it work and trace all the wires.

We're thinking of going with a aje tubular k member, a arm, coil over setup.
Don't listen to him. It's a cool idea. I want to do the same swap but in my 77. You are talking 40-41mpg in a 77. That could run 12.0's all day long, in bone stock trim. [worship]

EDit: quoted the wrong guy.. O-well shit happens.

[ July 10, 2012, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
Not sure how much those go for now or what mods they like but those v6s are impressive with good reliable factory 300hp

Only 90hp less than a stock termi LOL
 
Posted by SLOWFOX (Member # 11067) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyJCVQuyWVw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


They sound good to me..
 
Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :
 
Outta the box thinkn......i have met your brother too; very intelligent people. Great ideas!!! Great project! Just like i say....go your own path. Deviate from the "normal" ;its loved but sometimes Js overdone!!!! Its excellent to see fresh perspectives on "go fast" toys..........why not do it and tip the scale in the other direction? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [patriot]
 
Posted by TMA Turbo Donald (Member # 11926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by TuxMask-Andy:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by TMA Turbo Donald:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
That my freinds is a 300+hp 30mpg v6 I believe from a newr mustang..badass if am right lol.. [patriot]
imagine the MPG that I could potentially get in a fox body with this combo!!..
Buy a Prius, that is the worst reason ever to spend what you're spending on that conversion. I don't care if it's free, it's a lame reason to do it. Just saying
I see your point. If you wanna go fast then get a fast car. If you want a fuel efficient car then get a prius/civic. And your right, it is lame to do all this work for the sole purpose of just getting 30 mpg.

But I see nothing wrong in attempting to get a balanced car and the best of both worlds. Something that can get 305 hp stock and 30+ mpg at least.

My bro (tma turbo donald) and I got the engine/tranny/ecu harness for $2200 so far. These engines are dirt cheap from online wrecking yards. I'll have to custom fab a few things to make it work and trace all the wires.

We're thinking of going with a aje tubular k member, a arm, coil over setup.
Don't listen to him. It's a cool idea. I want to do the same swap but in my 77. You are talking 40-41mpg in a 77. That could run 12.0's all day long, in bone stock trim. [worship]

EDit: quoted the wrong guy.. O-well shit happens.
Thanks warhorse58gt. I'll make sure to post pics of the progress!!
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
Please do! [patriot]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Hows it passing smog? I'd do it to a 4 eye when they had v6s Otherwise it'll be nothing more than a glOrified garage ornament.
 
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Hows it passing smog? I'd do it to a 4 eye when they had v6s Otherwise it'll be nothing more than a glOrified garage ornament.
Could be done quite easily.
 
Posted by Stang66 (Member # 10504) on :
 
Good luck with the build, they hating because your future v6 foxbody will be faster then their pushrod 5.0
Keep us updated on the build, it should be interesting [patriot]
 
Posted by Outlaw_Stangz (Member # 3926) on :
 
Dope project, don't see why dudes gotta h8.....
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyJCVQuyWVw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


They sound good to me..
Agreed !!! [patriot]


I think that it's a sick idea, and a very logical one because of gas prices !!!
Good luck with the build TMA it's gonna be a sleeper for sure ! !!!

[ July 10, 2012, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Nifty50 ]
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Love it. Nice way to have high mpg and still embarrass alot of mustangs
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Nice build, definitely unique. Are you putting the engine in from the top or bottom?
 
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TuxMask-Andy:
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
Good to see something different but v6 is the worst sounding motor ever lol
Idk. Porshe's, supra's, gtr, etc, or any high performance six cylinder all sound good to me but to each their own.

Stock 5.0 engine back in? 225 hp v8 and high millage engine just doesn't appeal to me. But maybe does for some people
Those r straight 6 or opposing motors not v6
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Hows it passing smog? I'd do it to a 4 eye when they had v6s Otherwise it'll be nothing more than a glOrified garage ornament.
to be BAR ref stickered it will pass with all the requirements of a 2011 v6 mustang, so long as the swap is done the right way, it won't be a problem at all to get it stickered.
 
Posted by ZincYellow 281 (Member # 9865) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWFOX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyJCVQuyWVw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


They sound good to me..
But this sounds wayyyyyy better. Either way good luck with the swap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayemxBdI0bc

[ July 10, 2012, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: ZincYellow 281 ]
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 


[ July 11, 2012, 12:07 AM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
Good luck Donald.....we are preparing to do a 3V mod motor into a 88 Saleen.
We have the motor, trans, complete harness....should be fun.
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
How strong is that Factory Shortblock? If it's stronger than the factory V8 Shortblock , then I dont see a problem with this decision. Also I never heard from your brother about a Hotside.
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
I'd rather see a Ford v6 swap over a gay LSx swap. Good luck with the project.
 
Posted by Fcknvenom (Member # 9631) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
I'd rather see a Ford v6 swap over a gay LSx swap. Good luck with the project.
I concur!
 
Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 2973) on :
 
Interesting project. Can't wait to see it done. The 2011 & up V6 is dope. 305HP/280TQ & 30MPG! Should be even sicker in a light ass Fox. Let's see them pics soon!
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
A+ on thinking outside of the box but C for considering a balance of semi decent performance w/ economy.

do you plan on commuting with this car and how much money are you really saving per year driving this car over doing a better swap like a coyote(which is rated at what....25mpg highway)?
what are your main motivating factors on doing such a swap in order of priority?(initial cost/free motor, being different, mpg, hp, etc).

seems to me you'll be putting in the same amount of work to do this transplant or even more vs a coyote as a v6 mod motor is not your typical swap for mustangs.
 
Posted by TuxMask-Andy (Member # 3615) on :
 
My main choices for the swap is

# 1 is cost. $2250 for engine, tranny, ecu, driveshaft. A coyote swap would easisly excceed 10k for all these components. So that's already an 8k difference which is quite huge.

We do our own fab work and got the tools so we can keep cost down. Not everyone can do this so those that don't have the skillsets or tools will cost them a lot for to do things custom.

#2 reason is uniqueness of not being a cookie cutter setup.

#3. This engine kicks ass no matter what some of the haters might think! [Smile]

[ July 11, 2012, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: TuxMask-Andy ]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 92MaroonGT:
I have no idea why there is so much dislike on this topic. I think it's a very interesting, and nice idea. I can't wait to see the process, and one day see a youtube video of the first start up. V6 or not, it's a newer mustang engine going in a fox.


Good luck to the OP and brother.
+1 very interesting swap, and if your brother fabs a turbo kit for it that thing will be sweet!! good luck with everything
 




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