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Originally posted by rayski25:
Mustang driver an African American = ticket and car search

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quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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They just had it out for you that day....
 

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Posted by 89FoxLX (Member # 7197) on :
 
Got pulled over for no front plate...I was following my friends aunt who drives a Tahoe with no front plate.
 

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Posted by stock fox (Member # 9211) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
if the cop asked you to search your car after a minor stop, did you say yes?

big arrests come from minor offenses, like no front plates...

dont you watch "COPS"


 

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Posted by SS396 chevelle aka fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by rayski25:
I got pulled over last summer for "doing 40 in a 35" an I was in first gear on a right hand turn, I was going 15mph...searched the car an everything then handed me a ticket an speed off.


Mustang driver = ticket
Mustang driver an African American = ticket and car search

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quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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quote:

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Originally posted by x Raelsmar x:

quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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And you still have a license?

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quote:

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Originally posted by 90GT510:
TX cops aren't like that

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I know, they don't even look at you lol. Although over the weekend I was with my brother in his Cobra and we were cruising with our buddy and he was in a Vette. Vette was leading Cobra was following and my brother got pulled over for an 86 in a 70 on the tollway Our buddy pulled over when the cop lit us up and he let our buddy go without talking to him. That was a Trooper though, he must like Chevy's.
 

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Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
i got pulled over for loud music, asked the cop if i could pop my truck n show him my subs, when i openned it all the was was a spare tire n amp ( not in use lol) than gave me a ticket for my radar detector calling it "obstruction of view"
wtf i've been pulled over by chp no problem with me having it
 

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Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :
 
for doing 48 in a 50

i shit you not..... mi state trooper

when she walked up to me, she asked "whats the rush"

i said "well the speed limits 50"

she said "yeah ! and you were doing 48"

she wouldnt admit to being wrong to that, wouldnt show me the radar, told me my insurance was expired (it wasnt) , and that me and my passenger didnt have our seatbelts on (we did)

so she wrote me for doing 58 in a 45

stupid B!t$h

i had to plead guilty...cuz she kept putting it off...then i had to ship out for marine corps boot camp. and you cant have any pending tickets.
 

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Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :
 
That' I flicked a ciggarette out my window and I don't even smoke. That was the most bullshit pullover in my life and I even told the officer and he wasn't having any of it and was interested more on my car and what ticket he could write up.

[ April 05, 2012, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: Venomized93 ]
 

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Posted by 510cpskid (Member # 8277) on :
 
got blurped for doing a fly by in front of best buy at union landing from chp. walked away ticket less, however he did tell me to "tell stang up fam or whoever the fuck is over there, to stay the fuck off my hwy" lol
 

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Posted by VENOMUS PONY 5.0 (Member # 7785) on :
 
Was in the Lexus in Hayward I was pulling up to the stop sign I was with my girl and her brother two cops were parked on the opposite side and as soon as I passed him up both of them did a u turn and came after me I pulled over and asked why did you pull me over he says " I ask the questions" let me see your drivers license and everybody's id's same questionss every time probation parole etc etc runs everybody's names comes back and says "roll your window up" then he says "roll it down" (mind you they are 30% tinted) and all he says is to take my shit of my rear view mirror.
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.
 

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Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by x Raelsmar x:

quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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And you still have a license?

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SMH
Reading comprehension would tell us that it happened in 2004......... I think he would have his DL back by now.
 

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Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by LXjames:

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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I hope your kidding? You must be out your mind to think that's how shit works. Haha man was that funny to see!!!

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quote:

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Originally posted by VENOMUS PONY 5.0:
Was in the Lexus in Hayward I was pulling up to the stop sign I was with my girl and her brother two cops were parked on the opposite side and as soon as I passed him up both of them did a u turn and came after me I pulled over and asked why did you pull me over he says " I ask the questions" let me see your drivers license and everybody's id's same questionss every time probation parole etc etc runs everybody's names comes back and says "roll your window up" then he says "roll it down" (mind you they are 30% tinted) and all he says is to take my shit of my rear view mirror.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Slowback67:

quote:

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Originally posted by x Raelsmar x:

quote:

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Originally posted by SydewayzStan:
I got 3 tickets in a half hour back in November of 2004. Exhibition of speed (got sideways at the green light). A few minutes later, got a reckless for swingin donuts cuz i was pissed about the first ticket, then right after that i got a ticket for loud music cuz i was slappin with the top down on my way home. All by different cops. That was a hell of a day

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And you still have a license?

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SMH
Reading comprehension would tell us that it happened in 2004......... I think he would have his DL back by now.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:

quote:

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Originally posted by LXjames:

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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I hope your kidding? You must be out your mind to think that's how shit works. Haha man was that funny to see!!!

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In general, its the truth.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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I mean no dissrespect by this, but you are either lucky, young, or both.
Driving like a respectable adult does indeed go a LONG ways towards not being pulled over..i agree.
In addition to driving like a 'respectable adult' ive been gifted with a beautiful head of titaninum colored hair that ive often wondered weather or not played a role.

[ April 05, 2012, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 

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Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :
 
i got pulled over for driving with my yellow parking lights on 'like everyone does'i did not get pulled over for my 4inch cowl hood, not for my 20% tint, and not for my loud exhaust.

he finally wrote the ticket it was for driving with parking lights, no proof of insurance, driving on a suspended "i did not know'
and he let me drive off.

four days later and almost 1000 in tickets paid i go to the chp station to get my ticket signed off, and the officer looks at me in disgust and tells me my morning route from before i get on the freeway to my work, i say how did you know? he tells me your car gets called in a minimum of 1-2 a week for reckless driving and i just denied it 'i was scared'
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
I never got why people drive with just their parking lights on, 88FOX does too lol
 

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Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :
 
at this time i owned a 89 rs camaro. i was obeying all laws, because there is a cop in south dos palos that tries to catch me riding dirty. i get to a stop sign and i see the cop about thirty feet to the left, i proceed straight with caution he, gets behind me and im a block from my moms house, lights and sirens turn on but i proceed the speed limit 'at this current moment im thinking if i can make it to my moms house im good like its some kind of safety zone' i turn to enter the driveway and as soon as im in i straight up screech tire and turned 'dirt drive way' and cop just keeps drivin. no joke, true story.

[ April 05, 2012, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: Stangn5oh ]
 

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Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :
 

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I never got why people drive with just their parking lights on, 88FOX does too lol

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i usually dont, but for some reason that morning i did.
 

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Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :
 
at this time i just bought a 95 z28. i paid all dmv fees and smogged all i had to do is pick up up plates and stickers, it had no plates but i did have a temperory moving permit.

im driving north on highway 33,chp is driving opposite direction, he flips a bitch kinda recklessly 'im like oshit im getting pulled over' after 3 miles i get pulled over and he says 'did you know you have no plates' i said 'yea thats why i have a temp moving paper on the back window' he says 'oh i didnt see it well lemme see your dl and registration while i got you pulled over' i refused being that i was legit at the time and there was no reason for me getting pulled over. eventually i cooperated
left with no ticket
i wouldnt try that shit in sj you gotta love lil towns
 

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Posted by cemelevu (Member # 10601) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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Not true. Got stopped for not having my headlights on, on hwy 65. Wasnt speeding, wasnt swerving. In fact was actually driving less than the speed limit. Yes I know the sign says your suppose to, that day I just forgot. Chp didn't care. Still wrote me a ticket. I wasn't disrespectful when he came up to the car. Fact is, he had already made up his mind to write me a ticket. Cost me 30 for the ticket and 180 in fees and penalties.
 

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Posted by 89Rodknocker (Member # 2951) on :
 
I got stopped for being black. No other reason to stop me. Oh yeah he said i was leaving a high drug area.
 

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Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 
I got pulled over doing donuts at the illegal drag races way back in my younger years. I got an exhibition of speed ticket but they did call me Donut King.
 

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Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
Got pulled over in my old 89' hatch. Driving down the hill from castro valley to Hayward, I saw that CHP had a car pulled over. Went to the stoplight, waited 2 minutes for a green light, went thru 3 stop signs, and then BAM.. same cop comes flyin up right behind me. He kept harrassing me asking me "What I was hiding" and "why I was looking suspicious." Told me to step outta the car, I got searched, he then searched my car and only found a legal pocket knife, and then wrote me a ticket for "Music audible from 50+ feet). Fought it and got to keep my F'ing money. Officer Fitzgerald FTL
 

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Posted by wilber650 (Member # 10360) on :
 
I got pulled over in my corolla -_- drivin normal then this other gansta car passes me 2 mins later cop right behind me talkin bout I was speedin playinn loud music nd Racing haha... I busted laughin nd he didn't like that one bit.. So car got searched for illegal parts.. He found a stock stereo which only had radio.. Nd. 1.6 l hahaha.. So let me off bt that it was funny..
 

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Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Off topic a bit, but here is anther perspective.

There are 1,000's of ways to lawfully stop a vehicle...My favorite reasons to stop a car is when the license plate light bulb is out, the ball hitch obstructs the license plate, no front license plate

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Typical cop Please explain to me the importance of a front license plate?

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I'm more interested in criminally profiling vehicles, stopping a car for something like a ball hitch

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I'm glad you're keeping the streets safe from people driving around with a hitch on their vehicle

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle.

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You mean bully their way into a citizens vehicle?
 

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Posted by rgtrahn (Member # 7133) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Off topic a bit, but here is anther perspective.

There are 1,000's of ways to lawfully stop a vehicle...My favorite reasons to stop a car is when the license plate light bulb is out, the ball hitch obstructs the license plate, no front license plate

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Typical cop Please explain to me the importance of a front license plate?

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I'm more interested in criminally profiling vehicles, stopping a car for something like a ball hitch

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I'm glad you're keeping the streets safe from people driving around with a hitch on their vehicle

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle.

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You mean bully their way into a citizens vehicle?

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quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Off topic a bit, but here is anther perspective.

There are 1,000's of ways to lawfully stop a vehicle...My favorite reasons to stop a car is when the license plate light bulb is out, the ball hitch obstructs the license plate, no front license plate

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Typical cop Please explain to me the importance of a front license plate?

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I'm more interested in criminally profiling vehicles, stopping a car for something like a ball hitch

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I'm glad you're keeping the streets safe from people driving around with a hitch on their vehicle

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle.

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You mean bully their way into a citizens vehicle?

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Here is the thing, if you aren't breaking any laws, then you have nothing to worry about. If you are pulled for a simple vehicle code violation, such as those mentioned above and you are Joe Citizen, you're unlikely to receive a ticket.

For me, I could careless about not having a front license plate or a ball hitch blocking the license plate, but the vehicle code is the vehicle code. Your license plate has to be legible so that it can be seen. Furthermore, case law and the courts have upheld investigative traffic stop based solely on a ball hitch obstructing the view of the license plate as good PC to stop a vehicle. There is nothing illegal about it.

In fact, if/ when I make a stop on a vehicle for a simple violation like the ball hitch, before I do anything, I try to help the person avoid being inconvenienced again at a later time. I always give tips to avoid being pulled over in the future for the same violation. For instance, you can take the ball hitch, turn it upside down and then it is still there when you need to use it, but no longer obstructing the view of the plate.

Let's think about it for a moment. Unless, someone tells you, how are you going to know you have a license plate lamp out or brake light out? A lot of time, a vehicle stop for a violation like a light being out is more of a service provided and less about writing tickets.

As I said, many of my stops do not result in tickets and are more of investigative stops. At my agency and more specific to my particular beat, I have a lot of time to be proactive. Coming from a family of recovering addicts, I love to hunt illegal drugs. You asked how a hitch or license plate is a public safety concern... In the small picture, it's really nothing. However, it is a tool that can be very useful. And when used appropriately, that tool has led me to many arrest for warrants, drugs, guns and people who should not be driving due to being under the influence of alcohol/ drugs or both. To me there is no better stop than that mentioned above and using the skills I have acquired.

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Originally posted by cemelevu:
I agree with you there. Its the small stuff that leads to the bigger picture on a whole. When I got stopped for not having a front plate on my car, the officer asked if the car was stolen, a bit odd at first, but I can see where he was coming from. Looking for how I would respond I am sure to which would lead into a search of my car.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Off topic a bit, but here is anther perspective.

There are 1,000's of ways to lawfully stop a vehicle...My favorite reasons to stop a car is when the license plate light bulb is out, the ball hitch obstructs the license plate, no front license plate

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Typical cop Please explain to me the importance of a front license plate?

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I'm more interested in criminally profiling vehicles, stopping a car for something like a ball hitch

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I'm glad you're keeping the streets safe from people driving around with a hitch on their vehicle

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle.

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You mean bully their way into a citizens vehicle?

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Here is the thing, if you aren't breaking any laws, then you have nothing to worry about. If you are pulled for a simple vehicle code violation, such as those mentioned above and you are Joe Citizen, you're unlikely to receive a ticket.

For me, I could careless about not having a front license plate or a ball hitch blocking the license plate, but the vehicle code is the vehicle code. Your license plate has to be legible so that it can be seen. Furthermore, case law and the courts have upheld investigative traffic stop based solely on a ball hitch obstructing the view of the license plate as good PC to stop a vehicle. There is nothing illegal about it.

In fact, if/ when I make a stop on a vehicle for a simple violation like the ball hitch, before I do anything, I try to help the person avoid being inconvenienced again at a later time. I always give tips to avoid being pulled over in the future for the same violation. For instance, you can take the ball hitch, turn it upside down and then it is still there when you need to use it, but no longer obstructing the view of the plate.

Let's think about it for a moment. Unless, someone tells you, how are you going to know you have a license plate lamp out or brake light out? A lot of time, a vehicle stop for a violation like a light being out is more of a service provided and less about writing tickets.

As I said, many of my stops do not result in tickets and are more of investigative stops. At my agency and more specific to my particular beat, I have a lot of time to be proactive. Coming from a family of recovering addicts, I love to hunt illegal drugs. You asked how a hitch or license plate is a public safety concern... In the small picture, it's really nothing. However, it is a tool that can be very useful. And when used appropriately, that tool has led me to many arrest for warrants, drugs, guns and people who should not be driving due to being under the influence of alcohol/ drugs or both. To me there is no better stop than that mentioned above and using the skills I have acquired.

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I'm a law abiding citizen, I've never been arrested, and when pulled over, most of the time I feel that I'm beening treated unfairly. I treat every officer with the utmost respect, never get a smart ass attitude, and they still want to treat me like a criminal. Yeah I don't have a front plate on my Mustang because I don't want to add holes and I don't like the way they look.

On my pickup I have the front plate, it's stock height and I've been pulled over for no mud flaps, it didn't come from the factory with mud flaps. It was the only time I have been pulled over for that and I've had the pickup for 3 years, plus I drive it all over Texas with California plates and never get pulled over.

Maybe it's because I grew up in a small town and the PD had nothing better to do but mess with me and my other friends that had Mustangs. Been pulled out of a car, put in handcuffs and searched, the officer wouldn't tell me why he was searching me, he just did it. Most of the time I feel that they're trying to violate my rights, get into my vehicle and search my person, for what they feel is "probable cause".

quote:

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Originally posted by cemelevu:
I agree with you there. Its the small stuff that leads to the bigger picture on a whole. When I got stopped for not having a front plate on my car, the officer asked if the car was stolen, a bit odd at first, but I can see where he was coming from. Looking for how I would respond I am sure to which would lead into a search of my car.

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What percentage of Corvettes do you see with no front plate? 99.99%? Yes I understand that it's a law but its a useless law.

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quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
So tell me rgtrahn, is it wrong to drive in front of a cop obeying every law? Kuz appearantly it was to this cop who pulled me over.

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quote:

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Originally posted by phil a:

quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
So tell me rgtrahn, is it wrong to drive in front of a cop obeying every law? Kuz appearantly it was to this cop who pulled me over.

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It's called profiling. You can turn it into a race thing, or you can realize that it happens to most every young guy, and exponentially moreso when coupled with driving a 'fast' car

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quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:

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Originally posted by phil a:

quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
So tell me rgtrahn, is it wrong to drive in front of a cop obeying every law? Kuz appearantly it was to this cop who pulled me over.

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It's called profiling. You can turn it into a race thing, or you can realize that it happens to most every young guy, and exponentially moreso when coupled with driving a 'fast' car

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Well I'm young lookin Mexican dude, I might have had my red SF Giants hat not shure but that cop is a dick. Can he pull me over in another city? He was a Menlo Park cop N pulled me over in Redwood City.

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si
 

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Posted by cemelevu (Member # 10601) on :
 
I believe he has to call into dispatch and get clearance. I could be wrong, I am no police officer.
 

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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
Get a license plate frame from "Foundation 11-99" and life will be easier.... Enough said
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Get a license plate frame from "Foundation 11-99" and life will be easier.... Enough said

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quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Get a license plate frame from "Foundation 11-99" and life will be easier.... Enough said

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What's that? My license plate frame says "I'd rather push a FORD than to drive a Chevy"

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quote:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Get a license plate frame from "Foundation 11-99" and life will be easier.... Enough said

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What's that? My license plate frame says "I'd rather push a FORD than to drive a Chevy"

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Google it... Your a big baller so the cost shouldnt hurt your deep pockets... Its a foundation that you donate to. It's for CHP officers families...

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quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:

quote:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Get a license plate frame from "Foundation 11-99" and life will be easier.... Enough said

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What's that? My license plate frame says "I'd rather push a FORD than to drive a Chevy"

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Google it... Your a big baller so the cost shouldnt hurt your deep pockets... Its a foundation that you donate to. It's for CHP officers families...

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You're gettin ckin annoying with your shit! All I do is fuck with you once about you being slow N all I been hearing from you is bitching/picking at everything.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:

quote:

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Originally posted by LXjames:

quote:

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Originally posted by Robb:
I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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I hope your kidding? You must be out your mind to think that's how shit works. Haha man was that funny to see!!!

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In general, its the truth.

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quote:

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Originally posted by phil a:

quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

quote:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Off topic a bit, but here is anther perspective.

There are 1,000's of ways to lawfully stop a vehicle...My favorite reasons to stop a car is when the license plate light bulb is out, the ball hitch obstructs the license plate, no front license plate

---

Typical cop Please explain to me the importance of a front license plate?

quote:

---

Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I'm more interested in criminally profiling vehicles, stopping a car for something like a ball hitch

---

I'm glad you're keeping the streets safe from people driving around with a hitch on their vehicle

quote:

---

Originally posted by rgtrahn:
It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle.

---

You mean bully their way into a citizens vehicle?

---

Here is the thing, if you aren't breaking any laws, then you have nothing to worry about. If you are pulled for a simple vehicle code violation, such as those mentioned above and you are Joe Citizen, you're unlikely to receive a ticket.

For me, I could careless about not having a front license plate or a ball hitch blocking the license plate, but the vehicle code is the vehicle code. Your license plate has to be legible so that it can be seen. Furthermore, case law and the courts have upheld investigative traffic stop based solely on a ball hitch obstructing the view of the license plate as good PC to stop a vehicle. There is nothing illegal about it.

In fact, if/ when I make a stop on a vehicle for a simple violation like the ball hitch, before I do anything, I try to help the person avoid being inconvenienced again at a later time. I always give tips to avoid being pulled over in the future for the same violation. For instance, you can take the ball hitch, turn it upside down and then it is still there when you need to use it, but no longer obstructing the view of the plate.

Let's think about it for a moment. Unless, someone tells you, how are you going to know you have a license plate lamp out or brake light out? A lot of time, a vehicle stop for a violation like a light being out is more of a service provided and less about writing tickets.

As I said, many of my stops do not result in tickets and are more of investigative stops. At my agency and more specific to my particular beat, I have a lot of time to be proactive. Coming from a family of recovering addicts, I love to hunt illegal drugs. You asked how a hitch or license plate is a public safety concern... In the small picture, it's really nothing. However, it is a tool that can be very useful. And when used appropriately, that tool has led me to many arrest for warrants, drugs, guns and people who should not be driving due to being under the influence of alcohol/ drugs or both. To me there is no better stop than that mentioned above and using the skills I have acquired.

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I'm a law abiding citizen, I've never been arrested, and when pulled over, most of the time I feel that I'm beening treated unfairly. I treat every officer with the utmost respect, never get a smart ass attitude, and they still want to treat me like a criminal. Yeah I don't have a front plate on my Mustang because I don't want to add holes and I don't like the way they look.

On my pickup I have the front plate, it's stock height and I've been pulled over for no mud flaps, it didn't come from the factory with mud flaps. It was the only time I have been pulled over for that and I've had the pickup for 3 years, plus I drive it all over Texas with California plates and never get pulled over.

Maybe it's because I grew up in a small town and the PD had nothing better to do but mess with me and my other friends that had Mustangs. Been pulled out of a car, put in handcuffs and searched, the officer wouldn't tell me why he was searching me, he just did it. Most of the time I feel that they're trying to violate my rights, get into my vehicle and search my person, for what they feel is "probable cause".

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I agree with you there. Its the small stuff that leads to the bigger picture on a whole. When I got stopped for not having a front plate on my car, the officer asked if the car was stolen, a bit odd at first, but I can see where he was coming from. Looking for how I would respond I am sure to which would lead into a search of my car.

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What percentage of Corvettes do you see with no front plate? 99.99%? Yes I understand that it's a law but its a useless law.

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I guess it comes with age

I used to play the "it's not fair" game with myself, but then you grow up and realize that you've gotta answer to yourself when it really comes down to it. Front plate? Yea, it may be weak in our eyes, but if the law says it must be there, don't feel sorry for yourself and hate the cops when they pull you over for it - you knew the law, and you chose to not abide by it. That said, have I gotten pulled for front plate? Multiple times. The only thing that's changed is that I no longer blame the cops for it - I blame myself.

If you dot your "I's" and cross your "T's" you have nothing to worry about. Everyone saying, "I wasn't doin nothin, I was just slappin some beat" - well guess what, you were doing something wrong according to the VC, so deal with the consequences. Simple as that. I think everyone cuts corners in their own way, it's just owning up to getting caught up in it - rather than to blame-shift toward the cops/authority.

That's all. $0.02

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I'm not that young (25) and I'm not trying to play the "It's not fair" game, I was just stating that it is a useless law, nothing more then a tool used by law enforcement to pull people over.

I know that the plate isn't going to get on there by itself, I would prefer not to drill holes in the front bumper, especially once I am done restoring it. Even if I do dot my "I's" and cross my "T's" it doesn't mean that I won't get pulled for some "reason".

Now that I live in Dallas, I haven't been pulled over or had a ticket since I left Califonia, police don't even look at me. Now back in my home town they would break their necks to stare me down.

Don't get me wrong I do respect the jobs of law enforcement, just not when their out to harass people.

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I got pulled over for "Unnecessary Honk". lol

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Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
i got pulled over on castro valley blvd at 1 in the moring after leaving my buddys tattoo shop i just left and i didnt put mmy seat belt on yet cop pulled up next to leaned over to his passenger side to see yelled " pull over" got a no selt belt ticket. remind you my truck is lifted and there was no way he coulda saw it

agian driving down cv blvd minding my own all of a sudden blurp blurp chp pulls me over frist thing he asked me if i have been drinkin i said no then he ask do you know why i pulled you over?
i said no he said that my tires stick out to far and that i need mud flaps

oh and when i was a kid i got pulled over on my bike for no helmit lol
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 

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I've never been pulled over. If you drive like a respectable adult, cops will leave you alone. It's that easy.

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I hope your kidding? You must be out your mind to think that's how shit works. Haha man was that funny to see!!!

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In general, its the truth.

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Yeah, the cops are pretty cool up in loomis... They never gave me a problem.. Even with my loud ass exhaust and gettin sidewayz leaving taylors burgers..

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Originally posted by Greasy:
I'm not that young (25) and I'm not trying to play the "It's not fair" game, I was just stating that it is a useless law, nothing more then a tool used by law enforcement to pull people over.

I know that the plate isn't going to get on there by itself, I would prefer not to drill holes in the front bumper, especially once I am done restoring it. Even if I do dot my "I's" and cross my "T's" it doesn't mean that I won't get pulled for some "reason".

Now that I live in Dallas, I haven't been pulled over or had a ticket since I left Califonia, police don't even look at me. Now back in my home town they would break their necks to stare me down.

Don't get me wrong I do respect the jobs of law enforcement, just not when their out to harass people.

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The bay area is a lot worse about random pull overs than other areas of California.

I was pulled over ~20 times in my coupe when I lived in HMB and drove to SJ and back a lot. I received 1 ticket which was for barking 2nd and 3rd leaving a red light, just had shitty tires and shifted quickly.

Now that I live in ventura county I hardly ever get pulled over, the only ticket I've had in the past few years was my wifes car received a no front plate ticket while her `08 GT was parked in front of her friends house. Talk about a bored cop...

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"... It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle..."

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Even more amazing how many officers do it illegally because most people don't know any better!
 

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Posted by 9svt8' (Member # 11410) on :
 
I got pulled over driving down a residential street. The cop was going the opposite way then turned around didn't even get out of his car. He told me on the speaker "I don't know if your aware but the front Lisence plate monster ate your front lisence plate". Then he pulled up next to me & said "drive safe" then left haha
 

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Posted by Venomousnotch (Member # 8695) on :
 
Long time ago I got pulled over for having red l.e.d's on my rear license plate..I put them on cause I had a clean ass fucking red notch.."FUCK DA POPO" I guess you can't have nice shit on your car cause you'll have to take it off...
 

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Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :
 
I forgot about this one.
I pull out of a driveway on story n king "hekka traffic" so i roll off the curb "accidently" and screech tire, As that happened I see a cop 6cars behind and he saw me in traffic so I try to loose him in traffic being that he didn't have his sirens on. I'm doing the speed limit, using my blinker, and I shake him within a distance bettween one traffic light I make a right into the backstreets and ran a stop sign did a couple zig zags through the block and the fucker comes out of nowhere behind me, he turns his lights on I pull over he comes calmly and says dl and registration with a smirk.

he got me with 38 in a 25 and stop sign ticket.

I fought it in court because he didn't actually see me he just assumed I was speeding and ran the stop sign based on how far ahead of him I was. Even tho I did run the stop sign but wasn't speeding

When I pull up to homestead court there's another 5.0 in the parking lot and I end up talking to the annoying Guy inside I didn't say I had a 5.0 because I didn't wanna relate to him LOL he's saying my tail light wasn't out but it was "I saw it" but I just agreed with the Guy he had one bulb working on his 3rd brake light

anyways I go up to the judge and the officer reads his report and the whole time my girl tells me he's silently cheering throwing up his arms whispering yea 5.0, he almost got away etc. He got warned by the judge to calm down. LOL

In the end I'm found guilty and i think i paid $648

[ April 06, 2012, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: Stangn5oh ]
 

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Posted by 91SuperchargedNotchOn24s (Member # 10866) on :
 
I've been pulled over just to see who I was by a rookie n in the end he even asked if had a supercharger n asked if he could see it...that was in Richmond. And in east Oakland I got pulled over for my car being to high n not having mud flaps!!! Lol straight bs!!!
 

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Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
When i was 18 and had my 01 GT (10 years ago), i was pulled over by a chp bike cop , For driving with my fogs and parking lights on. I went to court to fight it and lost and had to pay $135 .. Complete Bullshit!

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Posted by 50/50 (Member # 1724) on :
 
I got pulled over after I stopped to say "hello" to a girl (and a few girlfriends of hers)I know. I drive off to go home and a cop stopped me. He gets out and his partner was behind to my right watching me. And he asked if I was trying to pick up these girls. He thought I was some "John" looking for some action! I say I know her and was saying "hi". He tells me there's girls as young as her prostituting themselves around the area. Then, he let me go.
 

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Posted by inthefifty_510 (Member # 11534) on :
 
Got pulled over on Christmas eve for a dim tail light. The two cops searched my 86 hatch and gave me a field sobriety test then the breathalizer then let me go.
 

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Posted by rgtrahn (Member # 7133) on :
 

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
"... It's amazing how an officer can talk their way into a vehicle..."

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Your above statement makes no sense. If an officer asks you on a traffic stop, "Hey do you have anything illegal on you or in your car?" and you respond, "No." and then the officer says something to the effect of, "So you don't mind if I search your car or your person?" and then you say, "No, go ahead." It's clearly not illegal. In fact, it would be a consent search. It's up to you, to say, "No, I don't want you to search my car or my person". Furthermore, if you give consent and an officer begins to search you or your car, you can withdraw that consent at anytime. Again, case law and courts have upheld many consent searches under the same scenario.

If a person is on parole/ probation with search terms, it does not matter if a person does not want to consent to a search. There are also provisions for people out on bail or O/R. Furthermore, if you have someone in your car who is on probation/parole with search terms, an officer can search the car that way too.

If an officer walks up to your driver/passenger side window and smells marijuana, sees a pipe sitting on the floor...ect it's another way to search a car.

If a driver fails to produce a driver license or registration, an officer can search the car in the area the registration or driver license would likely be... Glove box, center console, under the seats, rear seat and in some cases the trunk... more less the whole car.

If a person a driver is arrested and a vehicle is towed, an inventory search must be done in many circumstances...

There is also always a warrant too. I'm sure I am forgetting something. However, my point to all this is, there are more than enough ways to use the tools already provided to law enforcement that we do not have to go around breaking laws and violating the rights of citizens. There have been times when I have had no lawfully authority or consent to search and I know/believe there is something, but have been told to pound sand. That's no problem, I don't take it personal. I just move on to the next.

At the end of the day, it's just a job and I'm out having fun. It's like fishing or a cat and mouse game. However, I can assure you I am not going to violate the trust the public puts in me to do my job lawfully and I am definitely no going to risk losing my house, car, ect in Federal Court because I want to search your car and have no lawful authority to do so.


 

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