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Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
Have any of you guys used dragon from max muscle? I was wondering what it did for you and if it was worth the $

[ February 22, 2012, 02:32 AM: Message edited by: Big block 66 f100 ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Cheating ass fools!
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
How is that cheating sir?
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
I've never heard of that product.

Here's the basics, what I use.

Whey Protien

Amino Acid supplements

Fish Oil

And Muscle Milk

There is a new product that contains Nitric oxide that helps promote muscle similar to steroid affects but is perfectly legal. Your body actually produces this chemical in small amounts when you workout and it helps your muscles to have more a faster recovery time . I think is called Force Factor, you can get at GNC.
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Nvmd lol

[ February 21, 2012, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: Pure Stang ]
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
Im just wondering why do you use whey protien and why muscle milk? Have you ever been to max muscle?
 
Posted by JZTRK (Member # 7641) on :
 
I use NITRIX I get my pump alot quicker and that stuff is about 75 a bottle

whea i think is to build mass
you should watch PUMPING IRON on youtube it will change the way you work out it did for me

[ February 21, 2012, 11:38 PM: Message edited by: JZTRK ]
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im just wondering why do you use whey protien and why muscle milk? Have you ever been to max muscle?
Pure whey protein is different than that of muscle milk, even though muscle milk contains whey Protien. It doesn't have the same volume of it and that's why I also use pure whey Protien. In pure form it tastes nasty as shit but you can mix it with just about anything.

And yes Protien is what helps you gain mass. If you like fish, it's a good source of Protien and so is chicken.
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
I konw everything you just mentioned i was wondering why you use whey instead of a casine protien that stays in your system alot longer...
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
I konw everything you just mentioned i was wondering why you use whey instead of a casine protien that stays in your system alot longer...
Casein protein gives me gas, that's the only reason I use whey.
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RONIN:
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
I konw everything you just mentioned i was wondering why you use whey instead of a casine protien that stays in your system alot longer...
Casein protein gives me gas, that's the only reason I use whey.
Casein protein is usually used at night when your asleep to prevent muscle breakdown. Whey isolate is used immediately after workout because it works best to rebuild the torn muscle tissue from a strenuous workout. And muscle milk is crap it has a bunch of dairy fat and sugar stay away I use isopure or gold standard which has very little fillers and zero to very little carbs or fat.
 
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
I use nitrix and bcaa's. Before I workout I use n.o. xplode and syntha6 protien shake with a tablespoon of creatine. At the gym a protien bar. After my workout I take ON %100 whey. And when I go to sleep I have a casien powder shake. And all of these I take with water.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Here is my stack

Creatine (SNS)
Beta Alanine
Orange Triad
Fish Oil
ON 100% Whey
Jack3d (pre)

When off creatine/beta alanine cycle, I cycle on Gaspari Size On (during workout). I have prescribed this to others and they have seen some good gains.

To your question, are you talking about Double Dragon (Sos 500)?

Whey = naturally occurring.

Casein = no no if you are lactose intolerant or on a strict amino acid consumption regimen.

[ February 22, 2012, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by slow2v (Member # 9403) on :
 
jack3d ftmfw! [worship]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slow2v:
jack3d ftmfw! [worship]
Jack3d is insane.....lol.

This was my workout yesterday.
Shoulders (1hr)
Hella games of hoop, very competitive
Chest, arms and tris (2hrs)

All thanks to Jack3d.. [patriot]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by slow2v:
jack3d ftmfw! [worship]
Jack3d is insane.....lol.

This was my workout yesterday.
Shoulders (1hr)
Hella games of hoop, very competitive
Chest, arms and tris (2hrs)

All thanks to Jack3d.. [patriot]
You sir have more free time than I [Frown]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by slow2v:
jack3d ftmfw! [worship]
Jack3d is insane.....lol.

This was my workout yesterday.
Shoulders (1hr)
Hella games of hoop, very competitive
Chest, arms and tris (2hrs)

All thanks to Jack3d.. [patriot]
You sir have more free time than I [Frown]
I gotta take it when I can. Hoop season just ended for my kids, so I have more free time now. But I always make time to workout.
 
Posted by blown doors off (Member # 10713) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:


When off creatine/beta alanine cycle, I cycle on Gaspari Size On (during workout). I have prescribed this to others and they have seen some good gains.


Did know there was doctors in this field
 
Posted by slow2v (Member # 9403) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by slow2v:
jack3d ftmfw! [worship]
Jack3d is insane.....lol.

This was my workout yesterday.
Shoulders (1hr)
Hella games of hoop, very competitive
Chest, arms and tris (2hrs)

All thanks to Jack3d.. [patriot]
You sir have more free time than I [Frown]
I gotta take it when I can. Hoop season just ended for my kids, so I have more free time now. But I always make time to workout.
Jack3d is no joke.
 
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on :
 
I know this is off topic to your original question, but has anyone here taken deer antler?
I just started taken it today.
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
I never heard of it where did you get it?
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
- i dont think its the same one you were talking about n8 but heres a pic...
 
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on :
 
Not sure if the last question was for me. But its called "IGF-1". It has deer antler velvet extract. I did some research and everything I came across was impressive. I special ordered it from Whole Foods Market.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
- i dont think its the same one you were talking about n8 but heres a pic...
wow that stuff is still around? I cannot see from the label, but is that made by a company called Chinese Anabolic Research? Or CAR? If so, I probably would not take that. If I remember correctly it was a knock off of some pro hormone, that was actually discontinued. Do some research or shoot me a pic of the ingredients. I can probably tell you more. Did you get that from Max Muscle up on Pacific or Pershing?
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
Yes its the car and yea i got it from that store
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Yes its the car and yea i got it from that store
My knee jerk reaction is to tell you to stay away from it. They may have re-did the formula. But back in the day, I was hearing some pretty bad side effects. What are your goals for taking a pro-hormone?
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
Pro-Hormones are great for this goal. Personally I would try another product. But on the flip side, me personally would not go with anything with the word "hormone" in it.

Good luck, btw I think I saw you at the gym a couple months back.

[ February 22, 2012, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
Just use steroids.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
Just use steroids.
lol...actually Pro Hormones are referred to as "legal steroids" in some circles. Justin you are a big dude, I am gonna assume you went about it naturally first. You would be surprised how far you can push the body with some determination. I got up to 4 plates before uppin my supps.
 
Posted by 93 interceptor (Member # 9457) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
if you buy your supplements at max muscle ask them for Megavol. This we help you reach your goal. Just know that most pro-hormones do have some kind of side effects. Although I personally haven't taken it my workout buddys do and have seen some good results. I take triple whey protein, creatine, carbo max (carbs), bcaa's,glutamine and fish oil. I like to buy everything separate b/c then you can manage your intake of what type of calories at a certain time.
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
Ive been going hard for about eight months (and i know i takes time for results) but im the type of person that needs to see results to keep it going...i have alot more muscle mass than the last time i seen you but im not where id like to be now...
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Ive been going hard for about eight months (and i know i takes time for results) but im the type of person that needs to see results to keep it going...i have alot more muscle mass than the last time i seen you but im not where id like to be now...
I'd try something else before going the pro hormone route Justin. Or if you do go that route, do not use that brand. But my stack works well, I duck in and out of cutting phase and hypertrophy phase with it pretty well. I can drop down to cruiser for matches without losing much strength (even at my age).
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blown doors off:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:


When off creatine/beta alanine cycle, I cycle on Gaspari Size On (during workout). I have prescribed this to others and they have seen some good gains.


Did know there was doctors in this field
I have used "prescribed" as a transitive verb my friend.

"recommend (a substance or action) as something beneficial"

[patriot] [Wink]
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
I just shoot whole pens of growth and sustainin 250 into my biceps, the roid rage isn't too bad , and I don't mind having a jaw that makes me look like american dad, lol just kidding, I have some friends who fight professionally, and nothing beats 4-6 small healthy meals a day (it is expensive to eat properly if you eat out but you can get by cheaply with chicken and hardboiled eggs if your strapped for cash) along with a well balanced lifting routine and cardio, now if your trying to be a body builder muscle neck motherfucker than by all means take the above supplements, they certainly work, just don't complain when your 40 and your testosterone levels are like jose consecos, I hear the forearm cream really helps those who have damaged themselves from using Tes and other supps from about the age of 23to 35. [patriot]

[ February 22, 2012, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: svfreerider87 ]
 
Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :
 
to all u guys running beta alamyne, im curious why u are not running any other amino acids with these?
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
If you do a little research along with the following excellent reads, you would be surprised on what you can achieve with whole foods and understanding nutrient timing whether you want to gain weight, lose fat or maintain.

Recc. reads: POWER EATING by Dr. Susan Kliener, BETTER THAN STERIODS by Dr. Warren Wiley, SUPERFOODS RX by Dr. Steven Pratt.

*Power Eating breaks down Carbs, Fats, and Protein and introduces eating plans along with a unique way to categorize foods when making your plan. This book also explains myths about certain supplements in the market.

*Better Than Steroids is much more advanced, more of fine tuning your diet with custom style eating plans based on goals. Also, this book explains in detail value of water, the timing of your eating and critical importance of a pre and post workout meal (as well as what they should consist of).

*Superfoods analyze about 20 superfoods such as broccoli, kiwi, eggs, nuts just to name a few. Explains the origin of foods, what nutrients they give once consumed, what diseases they can prevent and the recommended daily allowance.
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
Im trying to get as strong and big as possible
insulin bro, start shooting that's what my body builder friends started taking when the plateud off of the tes and hgh, nothing beats the risk of diabetic shock when your swoll as fuck, i'm totally kidding about doing those supplements, my friends really do take them and I can see the adverse effects first hand, I don't even like taking N.O. explode, stopped taking no explode and added way more cardio to my routine, could go just as hard with no N.O. nothing beats proper dieting as n8 said, and gym time. no pain no gain.
 
Posted by Stallion#9 (Member # 1153) on :
 
If you are shopping at max muscle I would go with the triple whey they have for your protein through out the day. Use the FBX as a pre work out, the PRO BCCA durring your workout, and ARM post workout. For supliments take 2TX in the morning and ZMA at night. You should see good results with that.

As stated above by others diet is most important for the best results. Eat right and at the right times.

[ February 23, 2012, 11:14 PM: Message edited by: Stallion#9 ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
to all u guys running beta alamyne, im curious why u are not running any other amino acids with these?
For me I get my fill of proteins (1.5g per pound) pretty much daily. Plus Creatine is a amino acid as well.

Justin I would be curious to see your workout routine as well.
 




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