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Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

All documented and all, Dont believe anything you hear on major controlled media....

Flase flag attack (just like 9/11) to be carried out by the globalists, israel and the u.s government to launch a war on iran, They will stage an attack and blame it on iran to have a reason to go to war.

Also watch out for a "Domestic" terror attack to be carried out by the globalists and the u.s government to launch an attack on our constitution, they will stage an attack then blame it on militia groups inside the u.s, militia groups are protected by our constitution, but they pose a threat to the globalists that want to destroy our country.

http://www.infowars.com/infowars-issues-emergency-terror-alert/

Watch Alex Jones on youtube- very important!!

Go to- infowars.com or prisonplanet.com

Join the Resistance!!

To anyone who bashes on this thread without doing their own research on what is really going on in this world deserves what is coming for them, Join the movement start waking everyone up!

Live FREE OR DIE... Watch real news Alex Jones- youtube & xm radio

[Mad]

[ February 08, 2012, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: kennebellgt ]

Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :

Schizophrenia

Childhood-onset schizophrenia
Last reviewed: February 7, 2010.

Schizophrenia is a complex mental disorder that makes it difficult to:

Tell the difference between real and unreal experiences

Think logically

Have normal emotional responses,

Behave normally in social situations

Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Schizophrenia is a complex illness. Mental health experts are not sure what causes it. However, genetic factors appear to play a role.

Certain environmental events may trigger schizophrenia in people who are genetically at risk for it.

You are more likely to develop schizophrenia if you have a family member with the disease.

Schizophrenia affects both men and women equally. It usually begins in the teen years or young adulthood, but may begin later in life. It tends to begin later in women, and is more mild.

Childhood-onset schizophrenia begins after age 5. Childhood schizophrenia is rare and can be difficult to tell apart from other developmental disorders of childhood, such as autism.

Symptoms

Schizophrenia symptoms usually develop slowly over months or years. Sometimes you may have many symptoms, and at other times you may only have a few.

People with any type of schizophrenia may have difficulty keeping friends and working. They may also have problems with anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts or behaviors.

At first, you may have the following symptoms:

Irritable or tense feeling

Difficulty sleeping

Difficulty concentrating

As the illness continues, problems with thinking, emotions and behavior develop, including:

Lack of emotion (flat affect)

Strongly held beliefs that are not based in reality (delusions)

Hearing or seeing things that are not there (hallucinations)

Problems paying attention

Thoughts "jump" between unrelated topics ( “loose associations”)

Bizarre behaviors

Social isolation

Symptoms can vary, depending on the type of schizophrenia you have.

Paranoid schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Anxious

Angry or argumentative

False believes that others are trying to harm you or your loved ones.

Disorganized schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Problems with thinking and expressing ideas clearly

Childlike behavior

Showing little emotion

Catatonic schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Lack of activity

Muscles and posture may be rigid

Grimaces or other odd expressions on the face

Does not respond much to other people

Undifferentiated schizophrenia symptoms may include symptoms of more than one other type of schizophrenia.

People with residual schizophrenia have some symptoms, but not as many as those who are in a full-blown episode of schizophrenia.

[patriot]

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

You must like your pants down bending over for the coming tyranny, martial law, and the new world order. Apparently you didn't do your own research on this matter which makes you dumb founded, This is all real, I want to raise awareness. YOU are the reason this is all happening because you just lay down and take it. YOU and people like you ARE the reason everything is so corrupted and evil, Bad things are coming like it or not, all information on these matters is documented and proven to be true, Bills are being passed to aid in what's coming do you know anything about it? no, You sit there with your head in the ground bent over calling people that are awake to these matters "crazy" The bill ndaa is just one of many bills that aids in what is coming. you are just a sheep the government is your shepard as is the new world order.

Posted by Wrench Monkey (Member # 9529) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Venomized93:
Schizophrenia

Childhood-onset schizophrenia
Last reviewed: February 7, 2010.

Schizophrenia is a complex mental disorder that makes it difficult to:

Tell the difference between real and unreal experiences

Think logically

Have normal emotional responses,

Behave normally in social situations

Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Schizophrenia is a complex illness. Mental health experts are not sure what causes it. However, genetic factors appear to play a role.

Certain environmental events may trigger schizophrenia in people who are genetically at risk for it.

You are more likely to develop schizophrenia if you have a family member with the disease.

Schizophrenia affects both men and women equally. It usually begins in the teen years or young adulthood, but may begin later in life. It tends to begin later in women, and is more mild.

Childhood-onset schizophrenia begins after age 5. Childhood schizophrenia is rare and can be difficult to tell apart from other developmental disorders of childhood, such as autism.

Symptoms

Schizophrenia symptoms usually develop slowly over months or years. Sometimes you may have many symptoms, and at other times you may only have a few.

People with any type of schizophrenia may have difficulty keeping friends and working. They may also have problems with anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts or behaviors.

At first, you may have the following symptoms:

Irritable or tense feeling

Difficulty sleeping

Difficulty concentrating

As the illness continues, problems with thinking, emotions and behavior develop, including:

Lack of emotion (flat affect)

Strongly held beliefs that are not based in reality (delusions)

Hearing or seeing things that are not there (hallucinations)

Problems paying attention

Thoughts "jump" between unrelated topics ( “loose associations”)

Bizarre behaviors

Social isolation

Symptoms can vary, depending on the type of schizophrenia you have.

Paranoid schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Anxious

Angry or argumentative

False believes that others are trying to harm you or your loved ones.

Disorganized schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Problems with thinking and expressing ideas clearly

Childlike behavior

Showing little emotion

Catatonic schizophrenia symptoms may include:

Lack of activity

Muscles and posture may be rigid

Grimaces or other odd expressions on the face

Does not respond much to other people

Undifferentiated schizophrenia symptoms may include symptoms of more than one other type of schizophrenia.

People with residual schizophrenia have some symptoms, but not as many as those who are in a full-blown episode of schizophrenia.

Stupid post is stupid.
[Roll Eyes]

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

mods ban this doomsday theorist~ we already have enough to worry about with the car thieves on here and dont need any doomsday wack jobs getting in peoples heads with this madness.next we will have someone trying to start a cafords militia!

Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on :

fuckin loser.

I bet he thinks obama is reading his thoughts so he has to wear a tin foil hat whenever he leaves the house [Whoo Whooooo!]

Posted by slocobra (Member # 6311) on :

Hand made tin foil hats... I'm having a sale this week 10.00 each or 2 for $50

Posted by 2000BlackGT (Member # 283) on :

[ February 08, 2012, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: 2000BlackGT ]

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
mods ban this doomsday theorist~ we already have enough to worry about with the car thieves on here and dont need any doomsday wack jobs getting in peoples heads with this madness.next we will have someone trying to start a cafords militia!

This has nothing to do with doomsday theories, What is mentioned has NOTHING to do with "doomsday" thats all propaganda, I think your illiterate probably didn't even finish high school so I'm thinking you couldn't read the part that said do the research, I guess well see if this false flag terror attack happens, either blamed on " domestic terrorism" to have a reason to take out guns or "Iran attacked us" I'm sure you don't know a thing about false flag operations carried out by governments, your an idiot! Time will tell soon if something happens then be like shit that dude was right.. I'm just trying to help you and people like you wake up to the horrors of what is coming, I'm sure you know nothing about the new world order and the destruction were soon going to see.

[ February 08, 2012, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: kennebellgt ]

Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :

[ February 08, 2012, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Too much fluoride for people that can't look up the documented proof of this shit, I'm here to reach out and try to get the people to see, but Anyone who looks into it will find it to be true, I guess later when it happens I'll raise this post, Alex jones predicted everything that has happened and is happening such as 9/11 and so on, is he psychic? NO he has insiders and knows about the new world order plan heres a video of his predictions before they happened!! seriously watch this video If you dont and just flame up the post your a moron because you, and your families are F**cked, Just take the time to watch this video and learn about whats coming so we can prevent it, Here is the Alex Jones prediction video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bboD3hwR-x8

[ February 08, 2012, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: kennebellgt ]

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....

Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.

Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :

IB< [BS flag]

>TL

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Here you go bud, I got the "bs" tupac video for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wIhMrdYivU&feature=related

Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.

Wow. You know who also told me about this? The homeless guy begging for change at the BART station. Enjoy your craziness.

Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :

bob marley had hidden messages in his songs...did the feds kill him to?

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Listen to this song by K-Rino- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oGV1XWh3k4

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.

YEA YEA YEA, freemasons and the roc sign.cmon bro its bull shit. you must of just watched blood sacrifice. so george lucas is gay,sam jackson is gay,kanye killed his mom,diddy killed biggie, suge got pac killed,an jay z is gonna get beyonce killed. oh yea,an dame dash killed aaliyah. get serious bro.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by wilit:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.
Wow. You know who also told me about this? The homeless guy begging for change at the BART station. Enjoy your craziness.

Did you watch the tupac video?

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by wilit:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.
Wow. You know who also told me about this? The homeless guy begging for change at the BART station. Enjoy your craziness.
Did you watch the tupac video?

dont care to. seen all that shit before. so you expect the world to end this year also? [Big Grin]

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.
YEA YEA YEA, freemasons and the roc sign.cmon bro its bull shit. you must of just watched blood sacrifice. so george lucas is gay,sam jackson is gay,kanye killed his mom,diddy killed biggie, suge got pac killed,an jay z is gonna get beyonce killed. oh yea,an dame dash killed aaliyah. get serious bro.

Stop ranting and look at the videos before you leave your stupid illiterate comments, Your saying bs on tupac when he talks about it in that video, he also knew they were going to kill him, Black people should look into the black eugenics programs, keep ranting without doing your own research bud it makes you look knowledgeable, Get informed.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by wilit:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.
Wow. You know who also told me about this? The homeless guy begging for change at the BART station. Enjoy your craziness.
Did you watch the tupac video?
dont care to. seen all that shit before. so you expect the world to end this year also?

No obviously you dont read my comments before you start your rant because I said earlier that the 2012 and doomsday shit is all propaganda, or do you not know what propaganda means?

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by wilit:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
guess what cafords..............
TUPAC IS BACK....
Tupac? you know tupac was killed by the globalists because he found out about the new world order and was going to raise awareness on the issue, Do you know what the song "killuminati" was about? Listen to his speech about it or listen to the song.
Wow. You know who also told me about this? The homeless guy begging for change at the BART station. Enjoy your craziness.
Did you watch the tupac video?
dont care to. seen all that shit before. so you expect the world to end this year also?
No obviously you dont read my comments before you start your rant because I said earlier that the 2012 and doomsday shit is all propaganda, or do you not know what propaganda means?

and you makin yourself look like you're on a meth induced porn/illuminati binge. and i must not be to illiterate if im responding to your tweeker as posts. meth= no bueno

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Go drink your fluoride water, you are highly misinformed. You don't look into Anything mentioned, because if you did my points would prove "valid" It's alright this thread will be raised when this happens, I'm sure you dont even know what tyranny is.

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

now you are just being plain ignorant. i dont care to read your "info" cause its plain bs.so tell me this,did you or did you not watch blood sacrifice? that movie is horse shit as is your "info". just like elvis is alive,just like pac is livin in cuba an comin back in 2014. cmon now. you did buy the makavelli cd right?well correct me if im wrong but the 7 day theory what happened to that, its been how long since he was killed an still no pac. now its 7 years,no.do you know who machiavelli was? faked his own death and supposedly came back 7 days later. so what happened to pac an his 7 day,7 year theory. he knew someone was gon kill him cause of all the shit he started with other rappers.how was it he didnt know he was gonna get shot in the studio in new york if he knew so much?

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

So, i have to say something since i post i made had an article that is linked from yours... I read the article, and i looked in just about every link provided to try and "prove" the statements they were supporting. Take the one about "working under the Radar to take away our second amendment rights" links to an article that has nothing to do with this.

This seems like just another form or religion, someone taking their personal interpretation of potential events and skewing them into their own twisted view of reality. They then find "sheep" who take these views as gospal.... Can you provide any valid news sources that support the stuff about us staging false attacks against ourselves? I suppose you think we planned and executed 9/11 ourselves, don't you?

I think our government is taking too many of our rights and does use fear as a manipulation tactic, but Iran has very clearly said they want to hurt us, and in a very bad way.... this is out of their mouth, not ours.

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
So, i have to say something since i post i made had an article that is linked from yours... I read the article, and i looked in just about every link provided to try and "prove" the statements they were supporting. Take the one about "working under the Radar to take away our second amendment rights" links to an article that has nothing to do with this.

This seems like just another form or religion, someone taking their personal interpretation of potential events and skewing them into their own twisted view of reality. They then find "sheep" who take these views as gospal.... Can you provide any valid news sources that support the stuff about us staging false attacks against ourselves? I suppose you think we planned and executed 9/11 ourselves, don't you?

I think our government is taking too many of our rights and does use fear as a manipulation tactic, but Iran has very clearly said they want to hurt us, and in a very bad way.... this is out of their mouth, not ours.

THANK YOU! this guy mustbe part of the tebow clan!

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
So, i have to say something since i post i made had an article that is linked from yours... I read the article, and i looked in just about every link provided to try and "prove" the statements they were supporting. Take the one about "working under the Radar to take away our second amendment rights" links to an article that has nothing to do with this.

This seems like just another form or religion, someone taking their personal interpretation of potential events and skewing them into their own twisted view of reality. They then find "sheep" who take these views as gospal.... Can you provide any valid news sources that support the stuff about us staging false attacks against ourselves? I suppose you think we planned and executed 9/11 ourselves, don't you?

I think our government is taking too many of our rights and does use fear as a manipulation tactic, but Iran has very clearly said they want to hurt us, and in a very bad way.... this is out of their mouth, not ours.

How and why did world trade center 7 building collapse? How much did the government benefit from these attacks, Do you know how many unconstitutional laws that were passed after these attacks? Did you know the owner of the trade center buildings took out a bigger insurance claim 1 month before these attacks occurred and also listed "acts of terrorism" in the insurance claim? Did you know about all the people that were there heard multiple explosions that happened before the collapse?
Did you know first responders weren't allowed to the 9/11 site on 9/11/2011?
Here's a video of bombs going off, how can you explain these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

conspiracy theory wack job. at its finest. they fuel these things you are reading into.

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

wow someone got into my stash and smoked it all at once.. [Eek!]

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
wow someone got into my stash and smoked it all at once..

nooooooo, i said he was on meth not weed.

Posted by 68stanger (Member # 7842) on :

Hey, hey, you gotta listen to me, you gotta hear me, are you listening? It's not real man! It's a lie, it's all lies. The government lies to us. They put robots in the drinking water, they put spies in the toilets - to watch us! You think it's a joke, the joke's on you, they're killing you! You are being harvested by a marketing machine! You're not free, you're slaves! Freedom is a lie! They use drugs to control you, they did it to me for a long time. You need love! I need you, you need me, I love you! Love me back!

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
So, i have to say something since i post i made had an article that is linked from yours... I read the article, and i looked in just about every link provided to try and "prove" the statements they were supporting. Take the one about "working under the Radar to take away our second amendment rights" links to an article that has nothing to do with this.

This seems like just another form or religion, someone taking their personal interpretation of potential events and skewing them into their own twisted view of reality. They then find "sheep" who take these views as gospal.... Can you provide any valid news sources that support the stuff about us staging false attacks against ourselves? I suppose you think we planned and executed 9/11 ourselves, don't you?

I think our government is taking too many of our rights and does use fear as a manipulation tactic, but Iran has very clearly said they want to hurt us, and in a very bad way.... this is out of their mouth, not ours.
How and why did world trade center 7 building collapse? How much did the government benefit from these attacks, Do you know how many unconstitutional laws that were passed after these attacks? Did you know the owner of the trade center buildings took out a bigger insurance claim 1 month before these attacks occurred and also listed "acts of terrorism" in the insurance claim? Did you know about all the people that were there heard multiple explosions that happened before the collapse?
Did you know first responders weren't allowed to the 9/11 site on 9/11/2011?
Here's a video of bombs going off, how can you explain these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM

Exactly as i thought...

so, these terrorist took the time to learn to fly, get licenses, take over a plane and then fly it into a building, but they could never plant additional bombs in the parking lot. IF, and this is a big IF as i think its bullshit, those are bombs you supposedly hear in the video, how do you know they are not planted by the terrorist? Can you show me a screenshot of the MADE IN USA label on them? no, you cant, cause you cant even show any bomb fragments....No waitm i have it! it must have been planted by the lolipop gang and the wizard of oz!

See....anyone can take vauge, BS info and twist it into something that supports their views....

If you are interested, i have some ocean front property in Arizona that i'll sell you at a really great price [Big Grin]

[ February 08, 2012, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: Farrell ]

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

ocean front property in arizona. hahahahahahaha [Big Grin]

this guy i tell you(kennebellgt) lay off the meth

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

I'm not gonna jump in the fray as far as "the government was behind 9/11" and bombs bringing down the towers and all that... Definitely not enough in that arena for me to make a call...

BUT what sticks out to me is the money that was made because of 9/11. The fact that "put options" (or basically, betting against a companies stock over a set amount of time, by locking in set value to sell at, which would only make money if the stock plummets before the Put expires) were placed on United and American airlines stock values just days or even as little as 24 hours before 9/11 by persons trying to make a buck on the tragedy.

From the Wilderness, published by Michael Ruppert, linked the put options on the affected airlines (and a few other companies, located in the towers) to A. B. Brown, a firm formerly headed by the Executive Director of the CIA.

When American and United Airlines stock dived after 9/11, those people who bought Put Options made millions of dollars.

The stories about the put options suddenly disappeared from the media, and now only the underground press, largely on the web, talks about them. To date, there has not been any major public investigation by the government of who placed the stock trades. It was barely a footnote in the 9/11 Commission Report (A B Brown was merely one of the firms used, the identities of the traders is not publicly known, and something like $2.5 million went unclaimed).

Also, even less discussed; Raytheon, maker of Patriot and Tomahawk missiles, saw its stock soar immediately after the attack. Purchases of call options on Raytheon stock increased sixfold on the day before the attack.

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

BUT what sticks out to me is the money that was made because of 9/11. The fact that "put options" (or basically, betting against a companies stock over a set amount of time, by locking in set value to sell at, which would only make money if the stock plummets before the Put expires) were placed on United and American airlines stock values just days or even as little as 24 hours before 9/11 by persons trying to make a buck on the tragedy.

The stories about the put options suddenly disappeared from the media, and now only the underground press, largely on the web, talks about them. To date, there has not been any major public investigation by the government of who placed the stock trades. It was barely a footnote in the 9/11 Commission Report (A B Brown was merely one of the firms used, the identities of the traders is not publicly known, and something like $2.5 million went unclaimed).

This is not something that is unique to 9/11. this type of trading where people invest with the idea that the company/stock will tank (and has to tank for them to make money) is a big part of what caused us to enter into the recession we are in today.

Its been shown that we MAY have had data about 9/11 that we were not/did not want to act on as we thought that maybe it was not legit. Maybe some people thought it could be, but would not be heard and instead invested in such ways as you suggested. How do we know it wasn't al-queda people who invested in lockheed and the other defense manufactures, knowing their piece of shit brothers were going to do this so why shouldn't they profit? we can go around all day in speculation.

these are just my opinions though

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

I blame the new world order and people behind it such as the rothschild family, the bilderburgs, and the rockafellers.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
So, i have to say something since i post i made had an article that is linked from yours... I read the article, and i looked in just about every link provided to try and "prove" the statements they were supporting. Take the one about "working under the Radar to take away our second amendment rights" links to an article that has nothing to do with this.

This seems like just another form or religion, someone taking their personal interpretation of potential events and skewing them into their own twisted view of reality. They then find "sheep" who take these views as gospal.... Can you provide any valid news sources that support the stuff about us staging false attacks against ourselves? I suppose you think we planned and executed 9/11 ourselves, don't you?

I think our government is taking too many of our rights and does use fear as a manipulation tactic, but Iran has very clearly said they want to hurt us, and in a very bad way.... this is out of their mouth, not ours.
How and why did world trade center 7 building collapse? How much did the government benefit from these attacks, Do you know how many unconstitutional laws that were passed after these attacks? Did you know the owner of the trade center buildings took out a bigger insurance claim 1 month before these attacks occurred and also listed "acts of terrorism" in the insurance claim? Did you know about all the people that were there heard multiple explosions that happened before the collapse?
Did you know first responders weren't allowed to the 9/11 site on 9/11/2011?
Here's a video of bombs going off, how can you explain these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM
Exactly as i thought...

so, these terrorist took the time to learn to fly, get licenses, take over a plane and then fly it into a building, but they could never plant additional bombs in the parking lot. IF, and this is a big IF as i think its bullshit, those are bombs you supposedly hear in the video, how do you know they are not planted by the terrorist? Can you show me a screenshot of the MADE IN USA label on them? no, you cant, cause you cant even show any bomb fragments....No waitm i have it! it must have been planted by the lolipop gang and the wizard of oz!

See....anyone can take vauge, BS info and twist it into something that supports their views....

If you are interested, i have some ocean front property in Arizona that i'll sell you at a really great price

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

Do you believe in global warming too?

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

i blame them too. [Big Grin]

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

[/qb][/QUOTE]How can you explain personally how world trade center building 7 collapsed? No plane hit it, It received minor to no damage just a few small fires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_9/11_Truth [/QB][/QUOTE]

I am to lazy to go back and quote myself, but can you personally prove that IF there were even explosives there, that they werent planted by al-queda? seems like your sources are very quick to NOT point the finger at Bush or his administration.

From your link:

Members of the organization argue that the buildings of the World Trade Center could not have collapsed only because of the impact of the planes,[29][30] or as a result of the fires that had been caused by them,[12] and claim to have identified evidence pointing to an explosive demolition of the World Trade Center buildings.[31] The group does not blame any particular individuals or organizations for the September 11 attacks,[32][33] and Gage stated that avoiding speculation on the attacks on the Pentagon or on the involvement of the Bush administration was critical to the mission of the organization

Are you done yet?

[ February 08, 2012, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: Farrell ]

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
ocean front property in arizona. hahahahahahaha
this guy i tell you(kennebellgt) lay off the meth

For what ever reason, maybe your weren't breast fed, maybe you sat in front of the t.v for 12 hours on end with crap filled diapers, im sorry mommy didnt take care of you, I'm sorry you have a little shrivel brain, because you can't fathom the power to look this information up, you just sit there and get mad at your keyboard on cafords.

Just wait for martial law and a false flag attack to blame on iran and attack them or "domestic terrorism" to use as a pretext to take more of our rights and guns, I understand that your angry ok but dont worry the globalists are destroying America, our industrial base is basically gone and dont worry you dont have much of a future, your going to have it the way you want it alright dont worry the globalists might beat people like me you might win ok? alright.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:

How can you explain personally how world trade center building 7 collapsed? No plane hit it, It received minor to no damage just a few small fires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_9/11_Truth [/QB][/QUOTE]

I am to lazy to go back and quote myself, but can you personally prove that IF there were even explosives there, that they werent planted by al-queda? seems like your sources are very quick to NOT point the finger at Bush or his administration.

From your link:

Members of the organization argue that the buildings of the World Trade Center could not have collapsed only because of the impact of the planes,[29][30] or as a result of the fires that had been caused by them,[12] and claim to have identified evidence pointing to an explosive demolition of the World Trade Center buildings.[31] The group does not blame any particular individuals or organizations for the September 11 attacks,[32][33] and Gage stated that avoiding speculation on the attacks on the Pentagon or on the involvement of the Bush administration was critical to the mission of the organization

Are you done yet? [/QB][/QUOTE]

Why does my question about building 7 keep eluding you? explain it..

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:
ocean front property in arizona. hahahahahahaha
this guy i tell you(kennebellgt) lay off the meth
For what ever reason, maybe your weren't breast fed, maybe you sat in front of the t.v for 12 hours on end with crap filled diapers, im sorry mommy didnt take care of you, I'm sorry you have a little shrivel brain, because you can't fathom the power to look this information up, you just sit there and get mad at your keyboard on cafords.

Just wait for martial law and a false flag attack to blame on iran and attack them or "domestic terrorism" to use as a pretext to take more of our rights and guns, I understand that your angry ok but dont worry the globalists are destroying America, our industrial base is basically gone and dont worry you dont have much of a future, your going to have it the way you want it alright dont worry the globalists might beat people like me you might win ok? alright.

dude are you serious? bringin up my mom or my upbringing has nothing to do with your exagarated sci-fi world of conspiracies.how bout you do us all a favor an find the evidence your self.now you are being offensive and i dont like that. you must sit on your computer hooked on youjizz an fuckin world domination theories.how do we know you didnt send the planes or become a member of roc-a-fella records and now you a part of the nwo.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Do you know who the rockefeller family is?

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Anyways lets just see what happens

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

[/QB][/QUOTE]

Why does my question about building 7 keep eluding you? explain it.. [/QB][/QUOTE]

I explained twice that i dont give a shit about whether it went down from fires or explosives. for the sake of argument, it went down with explosives. Now show me ONE piece of evidence that those explosives were US made or planted as you have suggested and not made in some sand filled shithole and placed there as part of the plane attack plot.

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
This is not something that is unique to 9/11. this type of trading where people invest with the idea that the company/stock will tank (and has to tank for them to make money) is a big part of what caused us to enter into the recession we are in today.

Its been shown that we MAY have had data about 9/11 that we were not/did not want to act on as we thought that maybe it was not legit. Maybe some people thought it could be, but would not be heard and instead invested in such ways as you suggested. How do we know it wasn't al-queda people who invested in lockheed and the other defense manufactures, knowing their piece of shit brothers were going to do this so why shouldn't they profit? we can go around all day in speculation.

these are just my opinions though

Well it's not really speculation. The Put buys happened. But I absolutely agree and don't think the questionable stock trading shows proof of government involvement. It simply shows that people with money and connections possibly had foreknowledge of the attacks. It could very well have been Osama himself who made those moves.

Too bad no one really made a good effort to find out where that money came from... or where it ended up. The fact some Puts can be traced to a firm headed by a former CIA big wig is curious enough.

Follow the money...

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by kennebellgt:
Do you know who the rockefeller family is?

yea dumb ass, wealthy family of influece from ny.
do you know what roc-a-fella is smart ass?

Posted by 03smknsvt (Member # 5514) on :

People fear what they don't understand...some people only care to live for the moment and don't care about things until it happens to them..I believe alot of people in the government do a lot of shit to start wars and make an endless amount of profits..

[ February 08, 2012, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: 03smknsvt ]

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

How is our government profiting from war? we are falling farther and farther into national debt as a result of these wars, are we not?

individuals are getting rich, as corrupt people all over the world are, but i don't see our government padding it wallets.

That being said, I will fully admit that the government has kept us in a constant state of fear for a very long time as a way of control... look at this threat over here to my right while i pick your pocket with my left.

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

im not going to get into the conspiracies stuff, it as worthless to talk about as the giant in the sky. Iran will have a war in the next 12 months, they are approaching a point where they will have nuclear capability and unless disrupted in the next year, if they are allowed to carry on for more than 6-9 months no amount of war will set them far enough back. Israel will absolutely not take that chance! They are our ally and look for us for support, but the US timetable is a bit different we feel they won't go nuclear for 18 months. There will come a time very shortly where Israel will attack Iran, Hezbollah will attack Israel, and who knows what the fuck Syria will do. The US is increasing sanctions and trying to persuade all NATO nations to do the same, but there will come a time where we have to decide to halt Iran's nuclear program and how far we will go to aid Israel. Is it possible the govt may want public opinion on their side by any means necessary?

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sinisterblk:
im not going to get into the conspiracies stuff, it as worthless to talk about as the giant in the sky. Iran will have a war in the next 12 months, they are approaching a point where they will have nuclear capability and unless disrupted in the next year, if they are allowed to carry on for more than 6-9 months no amount of war will set them far enough back. Israel will absolutely not take that chance! They are our ally and look for us for support, but the US timetable is a bit different we feel they won't go nuclear for 18 months. There will come a time very shortly where Israel will attack Iran, Hezbollah will attack Israel, and who knows what the fuck Syria will do. The US is increasing sanctions and trying to persuade all NATO nations to do the same, but there will come a time where we have to decide to halt Iran's nuclear program and how far we will go to aid Israel. Is it possible the govt may want public opinion on their side by any means necessary?

this is very true, but is it wrong to have the public on thier side in this case? Iran is puffing its chest and increasing it retoric against the "infidels" because the sanctions that have been imposed so far have started to really affect their economy and their people in general. If you talk to an average Iranian person, they just want piece and a stable government.... Why didn't iran just stop enrichment? Russia offered to provide them with all the nuclear fuel they need to run their power plants, but they insisted on enriching their own.... Iran has openly condemed Israel and has been linked to supporting hezbolla already. they want Israel gone and they are the only ally we have left in that region, so we cant let that happen....

with a global economy and global intertwining of resources, we're tied into this crap whether we want to be or not.

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
How is our government profiting from war? we are falling farther and farther into national debt as a result of these wars, are we not?

individuals are getting rich, as corrupt people all over the world are, but i don't see our government padding it wallets.

That being said, I will fully admit that the government has kept us in a constant state of fear for a very long time as a way of control... look at this threat over here to my right while i pick your pocket with my left.

Govt especially large ones will never be in the black, debt is a quixotic necessity, but why is that debt accrued? The govt goes into debt because they borrow money from the Fed and pay for something or pay to someone. Our govt will never be rich, but it can undoubtedly orchestrate individuals getting rich. We are rebuilding Iraq and you and I are paying for it, monies come out the budget and our paid to private contractors for a multitude of services done as the result of our war. Off topic a bit but, the Fed has given our large banks zero interest loans that they in turn have used to give smaller entities loans with interest, it's estimated the profits from these benevolent transaction is upwards of 100 billion dollars
[Eek!]

Its a system of politics and economics that is not utopian, government is due for some series evolution

Posted by Wrench Monkey (Member # 9529) on :

Damn, 95% of CAFords has the wool over their eyes. I'm sorry when this government comes crashing down on you guys, I bet you all thought SOPA/PIPA was for your benefit right? Wake the fuck up.

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

I do not believe it is wrong to have the public behind an offensive against Iran at all, but we gave grown weary of war. It's hard for people to appreciate things that seem like they don't effect them, and with the intelligence abortion in Iraq it make take in our face evidence for our nation to support aiding Israel. For me personally I truly worry that nuclear war is creeping ever closer Iran seems to have the gumption to begin it, I hope that's a chance the US can't take.

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sinisterblk:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
How is our government profiting from war? we are falling farther and farther into national debt as a result of these wars, are we not?

individuals are getting rich, as corrupt people all over the world are, but i don't see our government padding it wallets.

That being said, I will fully admit that the government has kept us in a constant state of fear for a very long time as a way of control... look at this threat over here to my right while i pick your pocket with my left.
Govt especially large ones will never be in the black, debt is a quixotic necessity, but why is that debt accrued? The govt goes into debt because they borrow money from the Fed and pay for something or pay to someone. Our govt will never be rich, but it can undoubtedly orchestrate individuals getting rich. We are rebuilding Iraq and you and I are paying for it, monies come out the budget and our paid to private contractors for a multitude of services done as the result of our war. Off topic a bit but, the Fed has given our large banks zero interest loans that they in turn have used to give smaller entities loans with interest, it's estimated the profits from these benevolent transaction is upwards of 100 billion dollars

Its a system of politics and economics that is not utopian, government is due for some series evolution

That's what our second amendment is supposed to be for, to allow us to force that evolution of government, but now you are a terrorist if you believe in the ideals of why it was written:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Most people think this is about the right to own an assault rifle or a 50 cal rifle, but it is actually for the people to bear arms and rise up against a government that is getting to strong and taking our freedom.

I am no anarchist, but it pains me to see that militias are now considered "terrorist" and are treated as such. this amendment was meant as a way to keep the government in check and to allow for the people to rise up if the government gets too strong.... but it will never happen in the US, we are too complacent, me included. I love my toys and life in general, so i wont rock the boat as long as i can still fill up my stang with supreme and then go grab a steak from the store...

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
Iran is puffing its chest and increasing it retoric against the "infidels" because the sanctions that have been imposed so far have started to really affect their economy and their people in general. If you talk to an average Iranian person, they just want piece and a stable government....
Why didn't iran just stop enrichment? Russia offered to provide them with all the nuclear fuel they need to run their power plants, but they insisted on enriching their own....
Iran has openly condemed Israel and has been linked to supporting hezbolla already. they want Israel gone and they are the only ally we have left in that region, so we cant let that happen....

Iran is standing up for itself against the idea of the US Policing the world... if they want to develop nuclear capabilities, they feel it's their right as a sovereign nation to do what they want within their borders.

Iran condemns Israel because of actions the Israeli government has taken against the Palestinians... which is a local matter and none of our business. Israel is more than capable of taking care of their own shit. They could wipe the floor with Iran if they want to.

I think the US needs to concentrate on problems here at home. OR, if we are going to go overseas and get involved, just go in, kick ass with no remorse, take their resources as the spoils of war, and go home. Fuck nation building. Fuck preemptive wars without reason. Fuck longterm occupations.

When 9/11 happened, we should have identified any country harboring terrorists, given the country the chance to kill or hand over those terrorists, and if not, nuke the dogshit out of them.

Instead of going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and hunting Osama for 10 years, we should have put a $100 billion dollar bounty on him. Dead or alive. How long do you think it would have taken then? AND it would've been cheaper than the wars.

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:

quote:
Originally posted by sinisterblk:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
How is our government profiting from war? we are falling farther and farther into national debt as a result of these wars, are we not?

individuals are getting rich, as corrupt people all over the world are, but i don't see our government padding it wallets.

That being said, I will fully admit that the government has kept us in a constant state of fear for a very long time as a way of control... look at this threat over here to my right while i pick your pocket with my left.
Govt especially large ones will never be in the black, debt is a quixotic necessity, but why is that debt accrued? The govt goes into debt because they borrow money from the Fed and pay for something or pay to someone. Our govt will never be rich, but it can undoubtedly orchestrate individuals getting rich. We are rebuilding Iraq and you and I are paying for it, monies come out the budget and our paid to private contractors for a multitude of services done as the result of our war. Off topic a bit but, the Fed has given our large banks zero interest loans that they in turn have used to give smaller entities loans with interest, it's estimated the profits from these benevolent transaction is upwards of 100 billion dollars

Its a system of politics and economics that is not utopian, government is due for some series evolution
That's what our second amendment is supposed to be for, to allow us to force that evolution of government, but now you are a terrorist if you believe in the ideals of why it was written:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Most people think this is about the right to own an assault rifle or a 50 cal rifle, but it is actually for the people to bear arms and rise up against a government that is getting to strong and taking our freedom.

I am no anarchist, but it pains me to see that militias are now considered "terrorist" and are treated as such. this amendment was meant as a way to keep the government in check and to allow for the people to rise up if the government gets too strong.... but it will never happen in the US, we are too complacent, me included. I love my toys and life in general, so i wont rock the boat as long as i can still fill up my stang with supreme and then go grab a steak from the store...

Yes, yes, and yes. People still do think in this world. I'm also a constipated activist, keep me entertained and happy and you have broken my will to revolt. I would also like to add our founding fathers wrote the constitution and our govt in general to be liquid, they knew it was the end all be all at the time and hope it would be open for discussion and amendment but it seems that all it's interpretations and misinterpretation have become infallible gospel.

Posted by Farrell (Member # 10801) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
Iran is puffing its chest and increasing it retoric against the "infidels" because the sanctions that have been imposed so far have started to really affect their economy and their people in general. If you talk to an average Iranian person, they just want piece and a stable government....
Why didn't iran just stop enrichment? Russia offered to provide them with all the nuclear fuel they need to run their power plants, but they insisted on enriching their own....
Iran has openly condemed Israel and has been linked to supporting hezbolla already. they want Israel gone and they are the only ally we have left in that region, so we cant let that happen....
Iran is standing up for itself against the idea of the US Policing the world... if they want to develop nuclear capabilities, they feel it's their right as a sovereign nation to do what they want within their borders.

Iran condemns Israel because of actions the Israeli government has taken against the Palestinians... which is a local matter and none of our business. Israel is more than capable of taking care of their own shit. They could wipe the floor with Iran if they want to.

I think the US needs to concentrate on problems here at home. OR, if we are going to go overseas and get involved, just go in, kick ass with no remorse, take their resources as the spoils of war, and go home. Fuck nation building. Fuck preemptive wars without reason. Fuck longterm occupations.

When 9/11 happened, we should have identified any country harboring terrorists, given the country the chance to kill or hand over those terrorists, and if not, nuke the dogshit out of them.

Instead of going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and hunting Osama for 10 years, we should have put a $100 billion dollar bounty on him. Dead or alive. How long do you think it would have taken then? AND it would've been cheaper than the wars.

Honestly, i am a bit torn on this subject. I would love nothing more than for us to pull out of every country we are in and to stop "policing" the world. We have enough problems here at home to focus on....

Were it the 1930s, we could do that as we had a local economy and local interest. Can you honestly say that if we stop medeling in everyones business, stop helping the UN and stop trying to support the idea of democracy ( a joke i know) to the world that there would be no ill affects felt here at home? from a terror, trade, export/import and general economy standpoint?

we are part of a global economy with global politics and global interests and therefore are being put in a role of "policing the world" The UN, at the urging of the Arab league, decided to help libya. We had to fork over most of the bill and support for that help and because of this, the media portrays us as getting into everyones business and sticking our nose where it doesnt belong. They seem to forget that we were asked by the UN, who was in turn asked by the "Arab League" to intervene.

I cant really defend our action in afganistan though.....

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
Iran is puffing its chest and increasing it retoric against the "infidels" because the sanctions that have been imposed so far have started to really affect their economy and their people in general. If you talk to an average Iranian person, they just want piece and a stable government....
Why didn't iran just stop enrichment? Russia offered to provide them with all the nuclear fuel they need to run their power plants, but they insisted on enriching their own....
Iran has openly condemed Israel and has been linked to supporting hezbolla already. they want Israel gone and they are the only ally we have left in that region, so we cant let that happen....
Iran is standing up for itself against the idea of the US Policing the world... if they want to develop nuclear capabilities, they feel it's their right as a sovereign nation to do what they want within their borders.

Iran condemns Israel because of actions the Israeli government has taken against the Palestinians... which is a local matter and none of our business. Israel is more than capable of taking care of their own shit. They could wipe the floor with Iran if they want to.

I think the US needs to concentrate on problems here at home. OR, if we are going to go overseas and get involved, just go in, kick ass with no remorse, take their resources as the spoils of war, and go home. Fuck nation building. Fuck preemptive wars without reason. Fuck longterm occupations.

When 9/11 happened, we should have identified any country harboring terrorists, given the country the chance to kill or hand over those terrorists, and if not, nuke the dogshit out of them.

Instead of going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and hunting Osama for 10 years, we should have put a $100 billion dollar bounty on him. Dead or alive. How long do you think it would have taken then? AND it would've been cheaper than the wars.

You have just made valid and thoughtful points. In many respects I am completely onboard with you, but that is precisely what gives the OP validity. Lets say public sentiment is on par with yourself, so for are govt to gain public support for any action they undertake against Iran it would not seem to outlandish (or perhaps it is) that they orchestrate an event that would create the fervor needed for a public backed offensive.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

The globalists evil control freaks want war with iran,

During an interview with the EU influenced television channel Euronews, Obama’s former Special Assistant on the Middle East, Dennis Ross, admitted that an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities is a possibility.

If sanctions imposed on Iran fail, Ross told Euronews correspondent Fariba Mavaddat, an attack “is certainly a possibility.” He said that if Iran gets nuclear weapons “you’re going to live to rue the day because you’ll end up with a nuclear war in the Middle East.”

According to Ross, the world is opposed to Iran’s phantom nuclear weapons program. “This is not the US versus Iran; this is not some Europeans versus Iran; this is the international community versus Iran,” he told Euronews.

Dennis Ross is a member of both the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. He served as the director for policy planning in the State Department under President George H. W. Bush and as special Middle East coordinator under President Bill Clinton.

In 2010, Jim Tucker’s inside sources at the Bilderberg meeting revealed that the globalists had decided to take out Iran.

Ross was a letter signatory for the now-defunct neocon group the Project for the New American Century, which manufactured the propaganda campaign for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He also founded the advocacy group United Against a Nuclear Iran and teamed up the neocon outfits the American Enterprise Institute and the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank created by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

Iran’s alleged nuclear program remains unsubstantiated. Both Israel and Pakistan, however, have appreciable nuclear arsenals.

In 1986, Mordecai Vanunu, an Israeli arms technician who had worked at the secret Dimona site, revealed that Israel had mastered a thermonuclear design and has a number of thermonuclear bombs.

“All the world knows that Israel is a vast warehouse of atomic, biological and chemical weapons that serves as an anchor for the Middle East arms race,” said Issam Mahoul, an Arab Israeli MP.

On Thursday, Israeli General Aviv Kochavi said Iran has the ability to build a crude uranium bomb and the missile technology to deliver it. No actual evidence, however, was produced or even referred to at the conference where Kochavi spoke.

In 2002, Israel put a Ofeq-5 satellite into space orbit and demonstrated the ability to deliver nuclear weapons with intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Despite its sizable nuclear arsenal, Israel has not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT). Iran, on the other hand, is subject to six Security Council Resolutions calling on it to comply with its “international obligations” under the terms of the NPT.

In 2010, 190 nations agreed to a declaration that would have pressured Israel to join the NPT and be subject to the same IAEA scrutiny as Iran.

“We will not accept any approach that singles out Israel or sets unrealistic expectations,” General James Jones, the US national security adviser, said after delegates at the United Nations called for a meeting of Middle East states in 2012 aimed at creating a region free of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.

Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

Bilderberg Agenda Revealed: Globalists In Crisis, Supportive Of Attack On Iran,

The 2010 Bilderberg agenda has been revealed by veteran Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker and it paints a picture of crisis for the globalists, who are furious at the increased exposure their gatherings have received in recent years, as well as being dismayed at their failure to rescue both the euro and the failing carbon tax agenda, but more alarmingly according to Tucker, the majority of Bilderberg members are now in favor of military air strikes on Iran.

American Free Press muckraker Tucker has proven routinely accurate with the information he obtains from sources inside Bilderberg, which makes this year’s revelations all the more intriguing.

According to Tucker, Bilderberg luminaries are dismayed at the fact that “many important people” are not attending this year because, due to increasing exposure, invitees are “getting in trouble at home” and constituents are embarrassing them by asking irate questions such as “what are you doing with these monsters?”

“All these people are exposing us, we get all this mail and calls,” Tucker paraphrased Bilderberg members as complaining.

This dovetails with the revelations overheard by Guardian journalist Charlie Skelton at the Hotel Dolce Sitges before the meeting began when he heard conference organizers lamenting the fact that protest numbers are growing at Bilderberg events each year and that they represent a “threat” to Bilderberg’s agenda.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

In addition, prominent Bilderberg Zbigniew Brzezinski, the man who warned recently that a “global political awakening” was threatening to derail the move towards global government, was expected to be in attendance at this year’s meeting.

Tucker named his source as an international financial consultant who personally knows Bilderberg members and has done business with them for the past 20 years.

Turning to Iran, Tucker said that many Bilderberg members, including Brzezinski, were in favor of U.S. air strikes on Iran and were “leaning towards war,” although 100 per cent of members were not supportive of an attack.

“Some of them in Europe are saying no we shouldn’t do it but most of them are in favor of American air strikes on Iran,” said Tucker, adding, “They’re tilting heavily towards green lighting a U.S. attack on Iran.”

An attack on Iran would provide a welcome distraction to the globalists’ failings in other areas and would also allow them to war profiteer, pointed out Tucker.

On the subject of the euro, Tucker said that the Bilderberg elitists were determined to save the single currency even as it collapsed to a new 4-year-low at $1.19 against the dollar yesterday afternoon. As we have highlighted, the globalists are panicking at the euro’s fall and the ECB keeps intervening to try and hasten its decline. If the euro were to cease to exist, it would all but derail the ultimate agenda for a global currency because the perceived stability of using one currency for a plethora of nations would be discredited.

“The euro is important because it’s part of their world government program, they’re very downbeat because they’ve fallen so far behind,” said Tucker, explaining that the globalists had planned by now to have the European Union, the American Union and the Asia-Pacific Union already up and running.

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With regard to the climate change agenda, on which subject Microsoft founder Bill Gates was personally invited to the conference to discuss, Tucker said that Bilderberg were still intent on pushing it in pursuit of a carbon tax despite the fact that the whole move was massively eviscerated in the aftermath of the Climategate scandal.

Tucker quoted one Bilderberg member as all but admitting defeat on the mission to hoodwink the public into paying taxes in the name of fighting global warming.

“On climate change, we’re about whipped,” said one of the elitists in attendance.

However, Tucker said that the globalists were working on putting out more climate change propaganda “even as we speak”.

On the issue of the BP oil spill, the Bilderbergers made it clear that President Obama’s apparent “outrage” at BP and his threat of criminal procedures against the company was an little more than an act and that British Petroleum, who have been represented at Bilderberg meetings in the past by people like Peter Sutherland, former non-executive chairman of BP, were still “one of our brothers,” according to the elitists.

The future of oil prices are always an important topic to Bilderberg and the leaks Tucker and other investigators relayed from previous Bilderberg meetings were proven accurate when oil prices hit $150 a barrel in 2008, which was precisely what Bilderberg had called for.

“Gas prices are going to be nice and cheap this summer,” said Tucker, adding that they would start to rise again to the $4 a gallon level around November when artificial scarcity is created.

On the march towards anti-democratic global government, Bilderberg members stated that America must be “Europeanized” and turned into a giant socialist welfare state with health rationing and higher income taxes.

Tucker said hat Bilderberg were intent on mandating a bank tax paid directly to the IMF to fund global governance and a global treasury department under the IMF, and that this would then merely be passed on to the consumer.

In summary, Tucker said that this year’s conference was the most downbeat and pessimistic Bilderberg meeting in history, with massive exposure of their agenda acting as a roadblock to the ultimate goal of an authoritarian world government run by the elite, for the elite.

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Posted by kennebellgt (Member # 8395) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wrench Monkey:
Damn, 95% of CAFords has the wool over their eyes. I'm sorry when this government comes crashing down on you guys, I bet you all thought SOPA/PIPA was for your benefit right? Wake the fuck up.

Amen brother, good to see someone that's "Awake" to whats in store for us if we dont wake the masses up, That's what these people (globalists) are scared of, it will abolish them and their plan, thats why they want to control the internet because this is our ONLY source of real news and information, This is the only free media we have.

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

Jaejae is in the house..tinfoil hat on and all..kennebellgt don't bother with cafords on these subjects..I tried..and got the same treatment..fact is people don't want to believe anything..they are in wonderland where in their world everything Is perfect and there is no such thing as a conspiracy..give it up bro just let the shit unfold before there eyes..as for 9/11 of course it was a inside job..martial law? No..it's called the ndaa act now..lol..global warming? Haha gtfo..do some research and that itself wasn't what it was put out to be..nice try kennebell gt but don't bother with this stuff on here..sorry just how it is..but your not alone..alot of Americans are waking up..alot of people on here do agree with you to an extent..but don't expect them to leave a comment..lol check out "abovetopsecret.com" but be cautious of what you take as a fact or complete bs..let the "facts" lead you..take care..and welcome to the "list"

Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :

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Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Farrell:
Iran is puffing its chest and increasing it retoric against the "infidels" because the sanctions that have been imposed so far have started to really affect their economy and their people in general. If you talk to an average Iranian person, they just want piece and a stable government....
Why didn't iran just stop enrichment? Russia offered to provide them with all the nuclear fuel they need to run their power plants, but they insisted on enriching their own....
Iran has openly condemed Israel and has been linked to supporting hezbolla already. they want Israel gone and they are the only ally we have left in that region, so we cant let that happen....
Iran is standing up for itself against the idea of the US Policing the world... if they want to develop nuclear capabilities, they feel it's their right as a sovereign nation to do what they want within their borders.

Iran condemns Israel because of actions the Israeli government has taken against the Palestinians... which is a local matter and none of our business. Israel is more than capable of taking care of their own shit. They could wipe the floor with Iran if they want to.

I think the US needs to concentrate on problems here at home. OR, if we are going to go overseas and get involved, just go in, kick ass with no remorse, take their resources as the spoils of war, and go home. Fuck nation building. Fuck preemptive wars without reason. Fuck longterm occupations.

When 9/11 happened, we should have identified any country harboring terrorists, given the country the chance to kill or hand over those terrorists, and if not, nuke the dogshit out of them.

Instead of going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and hunting Osama for 10 years, we should have put a $100 billion dollar bounty on him. Dead or alive. How long do you think it would have taken then? AND it would've been cheaper than the wars.

Will someone please listen to my man right here?

101proof Jared, you come through again

Well said

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Not saying i agree with this post but i would like to point out the movie, V for Vendetta. Its possible for a Government to do that to create a war, i don't think 9/11 was an inside job or anything like that.

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Not saying i agree with this post but i would like to point out the movie, V for Vendetta. Its possible for a Government to do that to create a war, i don't think 9/11 was an inside job or anything like that.

Lol hitler burned down his own parliament to start one..and that isn't a theory anymore..straight fact

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

SMH
Jaejae...... I've tried to show you that the 9/11 theories have no fact's. Every theory has been shown to be false. You can't secret squirrel demo a building that size. One elevator shaft isn't enough access to take down a building that size.
Before you bring up the super secret thermite the government used..... Show me proof of the blasting wire & samples of the super secret thermite used. [Smile]

One last thing everyone.
Please, please, please!!! Stop watching YouTube videos from random people and take them for being 100% true. You can put mood changing music to random pictures and edit video to spin It whatever way you want. [Wink]

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
SMH
Jaejae...... I've tried to show you that the 9/11 theories have no fact's. Every theory has been shown to be false. You can't secret squirrel demo a building that size. One elevator shaft isn't enough access to take down a building that size.
Before you bring up the super secret thermite the government used..... Show me proof of the blasting wire & samples of the super secret thermite used.

One last thing everyone.
Please, please, please!!! Stop watching YouTube videos from random people and take them for being 100% true. You can put mood changing music to random pictures and edit video to spin It whatever way you want.

Slowback I could never change your mind..lol we have our own beliefs..to each there own..just because we don't agree doesn't mean I hate you..haha but as for show you proof?..hmm just look at both towers that feel at freefall speed..wtc 7..lots of building have burned for alot more than 2 hours and didn't collapse..huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half..a terrorist that couldn't even pass a flight school test is sposed to make a near impossible maneuver and then fly a huge airplane just feet from the ground to strike the pentagon onlyto be recorded by a camera that looks like it was uploaded from a metro..lol..not only that the insurnace contract for both wtc towers were renegotiated just two weeks prior to 9/11..and almost doubled in $$ ..fighter jets just happened to be in a stand down military exersise in which a terrorist attack was happening on the united states so they wouldn't be able to tell if it was just a drill or the real deal..I don't believe everything I'm told slowback but these facts are undeniable..and excuse the mispelling..I'm on my iPhone with cracked screen..lol

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half...

Not to stir the pot, but...

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

And as frt thermite found ievery sample of dust..molten steel found weeks after cleanup..the beams that were shipped over seas and not allowed to be tested for the commisions report..lots of hiding..the government did this to themselves..if they have nothing to hide..just show us all the footage of the pentagon..explain everything and don't just taser people when you ask them questions regarding this topic..don't lie and tell us we killed bin Ladin when he died from being sick from some disease..don't extermine "seal team 6" and make it look like a helicopter crash..don't say th rest were killed in battle..don't create sopa to try and stop info from being spread..dont create the ndaa act..atleast do a better job covering things up..haha

Posted by 68stanger (Member # 7842) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half...
Not to stir the pot, but...

Does ANY 911 Conspiracy actually know how thermite is applied or how much it would take to cut ONE FUCKEN BEAM of that size/thickness....more then you can hide in a wall. Look at the pic, its daytime, no smoke realitivly clean looking NYFD (dirt)....that pic was taken at least a day after 911, most likely during the recovery/cleanup process...so just maybe they removed that beam after the 911 incident.

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

how about an MIT engineer?
MIT Engineer Disputes 911 Theory of the WTC Collapse-Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg&feature=related

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

how about we compare a controlled demolition to a collapse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ptvvbaR0-U

Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :

just looking more into how those buildings fell, its pretty obvious to me it was controlled. knowing how it was controlled only proves there is a lot more to 9/11 then we all know. not going to get into who i think did it cuz i dont know...but what i do know is that there is something not right about 9/11 and there should be more done to finding out the truth.

Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :

My co-worker is into all that about 9-11, and he was basically saying and showing me all the video's that jaejae is posting and it really makes you think, and once you look at all the video's you really can't argue that there is alot more to it than we know about.

Posted by Wrench Monkey (Member # 9529) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 68stanger:

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half...
Not to stir the pot, but...

Does ANY 911 Conspiracy actually know how thermite is applied or how much it would take to cut ONE FUCKEN BEAM of that size/thickness....more then you can hide in a wall. Look at the pic, its daytime, no smoke realitivly clean looking NYFD (dirt)....that pic was taken at least a day after 911, most likely during the recovery/cleanup process...so just maybe they removed that beam after the 911 incident.

Wrong, it would take about 25lb's of thermite. It burns at 4,500* Thermite can also be ignited without explosion.

Posted by 68stanger (Member # 7842) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wrench Monkey:

quote:
Originally posted by 68stanger:

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half...
Not to stir the pot, but...

Does ANY 911 Conspiracy actually know how thermite is applied or how much it would take to cut ONE FUCKEN BEAM of that size/thickness....more then you can hide in a wall. Look at the pic, its daytime, no smoke realitivly clean looking NYFD (dirt)....that pic was taken at least a day after 911, most likely during the recovery/cleanup process...so just maybe they removed that beam after the 911 incident.
Wrong, it would take about 25lb's of thermite. It burns at 4,500* Thermite can also be ignited without explosion.

YES IT BURNS (slowly)and you would need someone inside that wall to deliver it with precision using only 25lbs of the stuff. its a clean precision cut on that beam, not a set and forget it behind a wall job. Thermite burns slow but puts out a shit load of heat, THE SHIT IS NOT A PUTTY TYPE PLASTIC EXPLOSIVE! I really dont see how it can be used in a precision cut on 4" thick steel beams behind tight spaced walls with nobody (iron worker) to apply it properly. you DONT pour the shit on things and walkaway, IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT FOR PRECISION CUTS.

there is no big bang with thermite (like so many have claimed to have heard when the towers went down) once again it burns not explodes....that means a precision cut is made by a PERSON who directly applies the thermite.... (the beam was most likely cut AFTER 911 for SAFETY REASONS during the recovery process)

if theremite burns at 4500 degrees and melts steel like butter....what can you use to keep the slow burning and EXTREMELY hot thermite in place while it does it job (whatever method is used to suspend 25lbs of themite will be burned well before the steel beams are cut (remember those are precision cuts [Wink]

one last thing (again) it burns and does not explode. that rite there means its next to impossible to have a controlled demolition when trying to take out multiple steel beams at once (and they got to be precision cuts too [Wink]

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[ February 09, 2012, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: 68stanger ]

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

I have a quick Q?
Who has an engineering degree here? Who here knows how giant steel structures are designed? I've seen experts offer proof of what happened, how it happened and why it happened..... Not a dude who has a lab in the garage, lives with his parents and makes videos for YouTube about matters they know little about. If you ask real demo guys about it, they will tell you thats what a building that size would do under those conditions.
Just my .02

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

I'm no engineer... but here's about 1,500 of them that think 9/11 should be investigated further...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Those videos are BS, have any of you watched the video of the same steel I beam put over a pit jet fuel with like 500lbs on it and within 20 minutes the I-Beam was already bending. Just imagine how much weight was on those I-Beams in the Towers.

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
huge steel beams that appeared to have been slice in half...
Not to stir the pot, but...

That pic doesn't prove anything, for all we know that beam was designed that way in the building construction.

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 68stanger:
YES IT BURNS (slowly)and you would need someone inside that wall to deliver it with precision using only 25lbs of the stuff. its a clean precision cut on that beam, not a set and forget it behind a wall job. Thermite burns slow but puts out a shit load of heat, THE SHIT IS NOT A PUTTY TYPE PLASTIC EXPLOSIVE! I really dont see how it can be used in a precision cut on 4" thick steel beams behind tight spaced walls with nobody (iron worker) to apply it properly. you DONT pour the shit on things and walkaway, IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT FOR PRECISION CUTS.

there is no big bang with thermite (like so many have claimed to have heard when the towers went down) once again it burns not explodes....that means a precision cut is made by a PERSON who directly applies the thermite.... (the beam was most likely cut AFTER 911 for SAFETY REASONS during the recovery process)

if theremite burns at 4500 degrees and melts steel like butter....what can you use to keep the slow burning and EXTREMELY hot thermite in place while it does it job (whatever method is used to suspend 25lbs of themite will be burned well before the steel beams are cut (remember those are precision cuts

one last thing (again) it burns and does not explode. that rite there means its next to impossible to have a controlled demolition when trying to take out multiple steel beams at once (and they got to be precision cuts too )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNOM_U5UM6Q

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

Exactly my point if the tower was destroyed due to a natural collapse it would have fell over..sideways..building don't cave in on themselves at free fall speed without assistance

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

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Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
Exactly my point if the tower was destroyed due to a natural collapse it would have fell over..sideways..building don't cave in on themselves at free fall speed without assistance

jae get serious,the building was burning from within an last time i checked the extreme house fires that u see on vids the house more than likely caves in. there was no inside job.WAKE UP.
all these conspiracy theories are complete bullshit.

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 707clone:

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Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
Exactly my point if the tower was destroyed due to a natural collapse it would have fell over..sideways..building don't cave in on themselves at free fall speed without assistance
jae get serious,the building was burning from within an last time i checked the extreme house fires that u see on vids the house more than likely caves in. there was no inside job.WAKE UP.
all these conspiracy theories are complete bullshit.

Yea the government is so trustworthy..let's just believe everything they tell us

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

You should watch sone videos without the "thi is bullshit attitude" not conspiracy is true but at the same time no every conspiracy is bullcrap..you've got it set in your head and nothing will change your mind..because you refuse to believe..or just don't want to..you've got active duty military personal,first responders,a he'll of alot of us citizens..people all over the world questioning what really happened..or maybe were all just jackasses huh

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
You should watch sone videos without the "thi is bullshit attitude" not conspiracy is true but at the same time no every conspiracy is bullcrap..you've got it set in your head and nothing will change your mind..because you refuse to believe..or just don't want to..you've got active duty military personal,first responders,a he'll of alot of us citizens..people all over the world questioning what really happened..or maybe were all just jackasses huh

bro, i think some of the older conspiracys are true,but i just think that the 9/11 theory is a lil farfetched. you just read the therma-whatever materials way of working as far as how it ignites and burns.yea some companys stocks an profits did go thru the roof post 9/11 but of course defense companys profits are gonna skyrocket during a war. dont think that i think you crazy bro cause some of the shit that has happened is fuckin weird.

Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
You should watch sone videos without the "thi is bullshit attitude" not conspiracy is true but at the same time no every conspiracy is bullcrap..you've got it set in your head and nothing will change your mind..because you refuse to believe..or just don't want to..you've got active duty military personal,first responders,a he'll of alot of us citizens..people all over the world questioning what really happened..or maybe were all just jackasses huh

+1 I don't believe the conspiracy theories... but i also don't swallow the official explanation either... In my eyes, there's just too much to question, and no real way to ever get the answers short of either someone coming forward and exposing some insidious government coverup, or a 3rd party independent organization building a replica world trade tower and simulating the plane and jet fuel fire until collapse. The computer models NIST used are cool and all... but every physical experiment done to date doesn't back up the official story.

I'm not saying it was definitely an inside job or whatever... all i'm saying is I, and i'm sure most of you, should keep an open mind. I wasn't there. I'm not a structural or civil engineer. I'm not an architect. But there are people who were there, or who are engineers and architects, who think the official story is bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczfSxFqMc0

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

Seriously tho.tho plbe thy hit the pentagon a "Boeing 747" was supposed to fly just feet from the ground and leve a tiny hole..with one video clip that doesn't show anything at all but a split second flash..10 year old kids have better cameras than that..the pentagon shoul have atleastb5-10 diff views of the "attack" the walmart parking lot has more than that..I mean come one..I truly can't understand how some of you buy into the official story..the Taliban "claimed they did it" haha they would claim the kennedy assasinnation if we let them...look deeper into it and maybe your eyes will open..don't just say this is bs and refuse to watch 10 secs of the CID..you've gove engineers,nypd..new York fd..goverenment officials,celebrities..people around the world.active and non active duty military..hell even presidential candidates questioning the situation..but no in this perfect world there is no corruption..we seee crooked cops everyday..just imagine people with 100x the power...but no they would never do that to there own citizens right!?? Wrong..we are just a number..either to be controlled..or licked in prison..you can deny it as much as you want..doesn't really bother me at all..shit I can't save the world..I'm worried about my own life and family..but hey I'm just one man..with a open mind that doesn't accept the "official" story along with 80% of the world..but 80% of humans are jackasses anyways right...we have been deceived and people just accept the lie being told..not because it's impossible..but because they would be terrified to know for a fact that this actually went down the way it did..the lie told to start a war..where we were supposed to find wmd's but found nothing and instead left Iraq a wasteland a killed a million humans..invaded afghanistan and opium production increased 60% ...supposedly killed osama right before election time..but hey I'm just a tinfoil hat wearing jackass

Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
Seriously tho.tho plbe thy hit the pentagon a "Boeing 747" was supposed to fly just feet from the ground and leve a tiny hole..with one video clip that doesn't show anything at all but a split second flash..10 year old kids have better cameras than that..the pentagon shoul have atleastb5-10 diff views of the "attack" the walmart parking lot has more than that..I mean come one..I truly can't understand how some of you buy into the official story..the Taliban "claimed they did it" haha they would claim the kennedy assasinnation if we let them...look deeper into it and maybe your eyes will open..don't just say this is bs and refuse to watch 10 secs of the CID..you've gove engineers,nypd..new York fd..goverenment officials,celebrities..people around the world.active and non active duty military..hell even presidential candidates questioning the situation..but no in this perfect world there is no corruption..we seee crooked cops everyday..just imagine people with 100x the power...but no they would never do that to there own citizens right!?? Wrong..we are just a number..either to be controlled..or licked in prison..you can deny it as much as you want..doesn't really bother me at all..shit I can't save the world..I'm worried about my own life and family..but hey I'm just one man..with a open mind that doesn't accept the "official" story along with 80% of the world..but 80% of humans are jackasses anyways right...we have been deceived and people just accept the lie being told..not because it's impossible..but because they would be terrified to know for a fact that this actually went down the way it did..the lie told to start a war..where we were supposed to find wmd's but found nothing and instead left Iraq a wasteland a killed a million humans..invaded afghanistan and opium production increased 60% ...supposedly killed osama right before election time..but hey I'm just a tinfoil hat wearing jackass

hahaha im with you on this...too many questionable things. not saying i know what happened but im at least open enough to admit that its not impossible. really though, the pentagon should have had a lot more than 1 dam camera and im sure they did. why they dont show them is beyond me.

Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :

You guys are on crack.You look like a bunch of bigfoot hunters turned Al Qeida sympathizers.A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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