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Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
A GT40 intake is not and Explorer Intake and vice versa. They share similar lowers depending on the year explorer it came off of. but you cant call an explorer intake a GT40 or Cobra. Im sorry but you just cant.

thanx for listening
 
Posted by SmallBlock Speeder (Member # 11220) on :
 
Well thanks for the info...
 
Posted by nasty93 (Member # 8935) on :
 
they all flow the same
 
Posted by copcar (Member # 10113) on :
 
They're all pink on the inside.
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Yea , alot of people seem to be confused that the Ford Explorer intakes are that of a genuine GT-40 tubular intake . I can't tell you how many CL ads I see that say "GT-40 upper/lower" when it's a plain Jane explorer intake . Kinda frusterating.
 
Posted by CagedBlueGT (Member # 9804) on :
 
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Originally posted by nasty93:
they all flow the same

Incorrect. They do not flow exactly the same, the tubular and or the actual GT40 intake has way better flow than the Cobra or Explorer.
They are close, but not the same.

[ December 27, 2011, 07:06 PM: Message edited by: CagedBlueGT ]
 
Posted by copcar (Member # 10113) on :
 
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-tech/14240d1140139921-cobra-vs-gt-40-intake-afm-dyno-cobra-explorer-gt40.jpg

very old comparison.
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
maybe was hunting for a tubular and got excited over ever gt 40 explorer add and got pissed
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by copcar:
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/5-0l-tech/14240d1140139921-cobra-vs-gt-40-intake-afm-dyno-cobra-explorer-gt40.jpg

very old comparison.

Good comparison. I had the same chart in my procharger packing . And according to the graph , the cobra intake and explorer intake do flow slightly better than the GT-40 tubular ... Interesting .... But I still favor the GT-40 tubular [patriot]
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
I went 12's with gt40ps, and exploder intake that cost me 60 bucks? Is that bad?
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
i freaking love the explorer intake. flows great with room to grow, if u wanted to port, unlike the tubular, takes the stock plate so to keep the smog nazis at bay.
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by COPFITY:
A GT40 intake is not and Explorer Intake and vice versa. They share similar lowers depending on the year explorer it came off of. but you cant call an explorer intake a GT40 or Cobra. Im sorry but you just cant.

thanx for listening

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=096852
 
Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Nothing against running a Exploder intake, but I feel the OP on this one. Those ads claiming a "GT 40 Explorer" intake have gotten old. It' s like advertising for a virgin hooker. Come on, it's either one or the other. And BTW, a tubular GT 40 owns the Exploder intake on visuals alone.
 
Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by COPFITY:
A GT40 intake is not and Explorer Intake and vice versa. They share similar lowers depending on the year explorer it came off of. but you cant call an explorer intake a GT40 or Cobra. Im sorry but you just cant.

thanx for listening

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=096852
lol yea pretty much. as far flow numbers I've read different. te explorer flows a tad bit less. here's a write up with a graph at the bottom.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/614.shtml
 
Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
lol @ virgin hooker
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by COPFITY:
lol @ virgin hooker

haha [worship]
 
Posted by copcar (Member # 10113) on :
 
The whole point of choosing the tubular upper intake over the other two is heat dissipation and weight. The visual appeal is nice too.
 
Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :
 
Lighter and less heat was enough for me..I hate those fugly exploder intakes..I like the cobra tho
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
I do have to agree that they aren't the best looking intakes. They look decent powder coated though!

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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
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Originally posted by MikeD.:
I do have to agree that they aren't the best looking intakes. They look decent powder coated though!

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That my friend is not powder coated , it is however polished [patriot]
 
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
thats powder coated sir lol. they have that color now. i had some pulleys done recently. its called sumthing chrome.
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
Lol, well being I own that, I would have to confirm powder coat. Just called chrome, go figure.

I went a little powder coat chrome happy..
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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
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Originally posted by MikeD.:
Lol, well being I own that, I would have to confirm powder coat. Just called chrome, go figure.

I went a little powder coat chrome happy..
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Oh , well excuse mua . Lol . I wasn't aware that powder coating could have such a fine finish.

That's really nice though.
 
Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :
 
Just to piss everyone off I'm Going to say I think the tubular gt40 is butt fucking ugly! It ranks with the ssi on looks in my opinion!
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89bluenotch:
Just to piss everyone off I'm Going to say I think the tubular gt40 is butt fucking ugly! It ranks with the ssi on looks in my opinion!

And just to piss you off , here ya go [patriot]

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Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :
 
Haha! [Cool]
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
And another ;
[patriot]
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Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RONIN:
quote:
Originally posted by 89bluenotch:
Just to piss everyone off I'm Going to say I think the tubular gt40 is butt fucking ugly! It ranks with the ssi on looks in my opinion!

And just to piss you off , here ya go [patriot]

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that's pretty ugly, at least post a clean one like the one I sold last month for $400 on ebay.

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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Lol , yea my shit was pretty dirty at the time . Had just got done removing the blower and everything got a little greasy . But damn you sold your intake for a good price .
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89bluenotch:
Just to piss everyone off I'm Going to say I think the tubular gt40 is butt fucking ugly! It ranks with the ssi on looks in my opinion!

+1
 
Posted by CagedBlueGT (Member # 9804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by RONIN:
quote:
Originally posted by 89bluenotch:
Just to piss everyone off I'm Going to say I think the tubular gt40 is butt fucking ugly! It ranks with the ssi on looks in my opinion!

And just to piss you off , here ya go [patriot]

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that's pretty ugly, at least post a clean one like the one I sold last month for $400 on ebay.

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[worship]
 
Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
thats powder coated sir lol. they have that color now. i had some pulleys done recently. its called sumthing chrome.

there was some stuff years back that looks similar and the powercoat color was called "almost chrome"
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
thats powder coated sir lol. they have that color now. i had some pulleys done recently. its called sumthing chrome.

there was some stuff years back that looks similar and the powercoat color was called "almost chrome"
Or you could always polish the Tubular GT-40 like I did [Wink]

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Posted by JUNKYARD5.0 (Member # 10398) on :
 
I'll put my 2 cents in, GT40 Tubular FTW!
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[Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ALMOST STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
thats powder coated sir lol. they have that color now. i had some pulleys done recently. its called sumthing chrome.

there was some stuff years back that looks similar and the powercoat color was called "almost chrome"
Or you could always polish the Tubular GT-40 like I did [Wink]

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Thats like so sweet !Did you hand polish it yourself or get it professionally done at a shop?
[patriot]
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RONIN:
quote:
Originally posted by ALMOST STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
thats powder coated sir lol. they have that color now. i had some pulleys done recently. its called sumthing chrome.

there was some stuff years back that looks similar and the powercoat color was called "almost chrome"
Or you could always polish the Tubular GT-40 like I did [Wink]

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Thats like so sweet !Did you hand polish it yourself or get it professionally done at a shop?
[patriot]

I've always done my own polishing

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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Sweet man, got any tips on how to's or anything?
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
I know your fingers hurt very very bad. That looks titties!
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RONIN:
Sweet man, got any tips on how to's or anything?

Aluminum Polishing 101

Basic tools:

Electric Drill (Nothing Fancy) 3,000, 3,500 RPM
100, 120, 180, 220, 360 grit Wet/Dry Sandpaper
(1) Mandrel 1/4” Shank Wheel Arbor

(1) 6” Ventilated Flap Wheel
(2) 6" Spiral Sewn Buffing Wheels

Emery Compound
Tripoli Compound
White Rouge


Optional Items:
High speed Mandrel ¼” x6”
Tapered Sanding Rolls 100-320 grit w/ mandrel
Buffing Rake

Tapered sanding rolls with the ¼” X 6” Mandrel for those tight corners that you can’t hand sand
Buffing rack... to remove excess compound from the buffing wheel, or you could use the edge of a file or edge square driver held in a vice.




Safety Equipment: Safety Glasses or Face Shield, Disposable Dust Mask or Respirator, Gloves, Padded Clamps or Padded Vice to hold the smaller parts with (otherwise they will fly) while Buffing or Polishing.

The Basic items you can purchase from the stores mentioned above. I bought the Eastwood Aluminum Polishing Manifold Kit # 13149 which gives you everything you need to do your upper and lower manifold with and other aluminum pieces if you choose to.
POWDER COATING: (REMOVAL)
To polish the upper intake you first need to remove the powder coating, this can be done by 2 methods.
First method is you could sand the powder coating off which will take for ever.
Second method is too use Air Plane Paint Stripper (not regular paint stripper) which should only takes 20 min - 25 min depending on the manufacture. Whatever you do follow the instructions on the can this stuff is toxic and will burn your skin. You can find the Air Plane Paint Stripper at most local automotive paint stores or at some of the larger automotive chain stores, Auto Zone, Kragens, Pep Boys Chiefs, etc.
I personally would not suggest using a wire wheel or sand blasting to remove the powder coating these methods only leave deeper scratches or pits that you'll have to sand out later.

SANDING: (100-360 grit)
Now that the powder coating has been removed you need to start the sanding process.
1st start with 100 grit sand paper to remove all the rough casting form the piece, the big flat areas are not a problem it's the smaller areas that are the problems this is why I suggested Tapered sanding rolls which will help speed up the process of sanding, but it can be done by hand sanding.
Now that you have the whole piece sanded with 100 grit you now need to use the 120 grit sandpaper to remove the scratches that the 100 grit sanding left, next you need to use the 180 grit sandpaper to remove the sanding marks left by the 120 grit sand paper. You'll need to repeat this process using the 220-360 grit sand paper.
I’ve never sanded any of the pieces I did with more than 320 grit sand paper. I have read where some people have even sanded with 600 &1000 and up to 2,000 grit sand paper but that's just too much sanding for me. By the time you’ve sanded with 100, 120, 180, 220, 360 you’re tired of sanding, let the Emery Compound take the fine sanding marks out for you.

Before you start to Cut Buff or Polish any piece with an electric drill and a buffing wheel you need to have the piece secured to the work area in some form (padded clamped, bolted or padded vice) or when you start to use the wheel on the item you will probably catch an edge or something and the item will hit the ground either braking it (which happened to me) or putting a big dent in the piece that you can't get out!
If you try to apply too much pressure to the piece with any of the compounds will only clog up the buffing wheel and leave black marks, and will not do the work it was intended for. Do a small area at a time using a left to right motion or back and forth motion do not use a circular motion, apply compound as needed, smaller amounts of compound are easier to work with than one large amount.

Attach the Ventilated Flap buffing wheel to the Mandrel 1/4” Shank Wheel Arbor and secure in the drill. Once you have the Ventilated Flap secured in the drill apply the Emery Compound by having the Ventilated Flap spin and rubbing the Ventilated Flap over the compound to create a thin layer of compound on the Ventilated Flap buffing wheel.

CUTTING: (Emery Compound)
Very fast cutting action. For coarse buffing, removing scratches and burrs from iron and other hard metals. Use with Ventilated Flap. Color of compound may vary from dark brown to dark gray.
The pourpose of the Emery and Ventilated flap is to remove and scratches left from sand and prepping the surface for the next step Buffing.
Attach the buffing wheel to Mandrel and then to the drill and start off with the Ventilated Flap buffing wheel with Emery compound which does all the work of 320 through 600 grit sandpaper or more. Apply medium pressure to the Ventilated Flap so that it can cut out any sanding marks you have.
As you work the Ventilated Flap back and forth with the Emery Compound you’ll start to a dull/medium shine which means that you have removed or are removing the fine scratch marks left from sand with the 360 grit sandpaper. Once you have the entire piece brought to a dull/medium shine with the Emery Compound, remove the Ventilated Flap Buffing wheel and move on to the Tripoli to buff.

BUFFING: (Tripoli Compound)

Tripoli Compound: is used for general cutting of all non-ferrous metals (aluminum, brass, etc.) Mild cutting action best used with either spiral sewn or ventilated flap buff wheel. This compound comes either in a stick or tube, reddish in color.

The basic principle of buffing is to remove any of the fine marks left after you’ve used the Emery Compound.

Attach one of the Spiral Sewn buffing wheel to the Mandrel 1/4” Shank Wheel Arbor and secure in the drill. Once you have the Spiral Sewn buffing wheel secured in the drill apply the Tripoli Compound by having the Spiral Sewn Buffing Wheel spin and rubbing a thin layer of compound on the buffing wheel.
Use the Tripoli while applying medium pressure to the buffing wheel in the same back and forth manner as the Emery Compound, to remove the fine scratches left by the Ventilated Flap and Emery Compound. At point you’ll start to see the piece come to a nice shine and that needs to take place over the whole piece
I suggest for the smaller areas use smaller buffing wheels (mini buffs) to get into those hard to reach places.

POLISHING: (White Rouge Compound)

White Rouge Compound: is primarily a coloring compound to produce a brilliant mirror like finish for all metals.
Attach a different Spiral Sewn buffing wheel to the Mandrel 1/4” Shank Wheel Arbor and secure in the drill. Once you have the Spiral Sewn buffing wheel secured in the drill apply the White Rouge Compound by having the Spiral Sewn Buffing Wheel spin and rubbing a thin layer of compound on the buffing wheel.
This is the final step to that mirrors like finish you’re looking for.
Again make sure the item is secured to the work area, using another (different) 6" spiral buffing wheel, do not use the same 6"spiral sewn buff wheel that you used with the Tripoli as this buffing wheel is now contaminated with the Tripoli and will not let the White Rouge work properly.
Using the same procedure as you used for buffing when applying the White Rouge to the wheel (slight to moderate pressure) again starts in a small area and working into a larger area, applying compound as needed, use a small amount of compound at a time. Work from left to right or right to left just try to stay from any circular motions if possible.
Your piece is now finished to a mirror like finished something to be proud of after all the hours you've spent.


My experience with sanding, cutting, buffing or polishing aluminum has been that no 2 people prep or polish the same part in the exact same manner. So what I’ve suggested above has worked for me over the years and my not work for other’s in that exact manner.

This should give you a good idea of how my process works. I spent probably 15 mins one day doing a small area on my MAF before I did the whole MAF.


After 100
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After 120
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After 360
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After Tripoli Compound
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Finished with White Rouge Compound
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[ January 03, 2012, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: ALMOST STOCK ]
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Wow! Thanks dude , I'm gonna add bookmark to this page for future reference .

Thanks again [patriot]
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
Glad I could help.
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ALMOST STOCK:
Glad I could help.

Holy shit , you're from Pruntuc ! I'm from Marina what's up man !

Not too many of us 831 folks on the board, it's cool to see other members from my area on here ! [patriot]
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
Yep from Prunetuckey... live here for about 30 Yrs [Big Grin]

I did a lot of work in Marina a couple of years ago but like all construction work in Monterey and the surrounding areas things have slowed down.
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ALMOST STOCK:
Yep from Prunetuckey... live here for about 30 Yrs [Big Grin]

I did a lot of work in Marina a couple of years ago but like all construction work in Monterey and the surrounding areas things have slowed down.

Yea, it sucks . After living on the coast for 23+ years I've since had to relocate up here to the Chico area because I couldn't afford the housing there anymore . Sucks because that's where I was born and raised and everyone I know lives down there.

My buddy used to go to North County , I used take him there to school in my mustang back then every once in a while. I also have a friend that lives over off of Paradise.
 
Posted by ALMOST STOCK (Member # 10085) on :
 
My son moved to Lincoln for the same reason you moved to Chico; housing prices got to be ridiculous.

I live on the other side of the freeway from Paradise.
 
Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
I think they sick as fuck here's mine
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Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
I think they sick as fuck here's mine
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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Nice setup ! I like the Blue accents on the upper and with the Ford Racing valve covers looks sweet!
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
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just cause everyone else posted some up.. [Big Grin]
 




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