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Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Some food for thought on his death in the aftermath. This means it's just the beginning for us imo.
You just gotta love the whole media / White House circus over the Osama Bin Laden announcements. Remember when we were told we had to go after these dangerous terrorists so we could be safer? Remember when we were told that the terror alerts had to be put on orange and red because Bin Laden was "living in a cave" and plotting to bomb us?
Well now that the White House insists they've killed Bin Laden, where's the celebration of freedom and safety? Why aren't we firing the TSA and reversing the Patriot Act? Isn't the danger now over? Can we bring bottled water back on airplanes again?
Instead, the government now says that killing Osama Bin Laden makes America MORE dangerous because his cohorts might seek "revenge."
Huh? Wait a sec... so killing Bin Laden makes America less safe? Wasn't the entire sales job on this supposed to be that killing Bin Laden would make us more safe?
Check out the logic here: George W. Bush said if we don't kill Bin Laden, we won't be safe. Obama says now that we DID kill Bin Laden, things are even less safe. So apparently, according to the U.S. government, killing them or not killing produces exactly the same result. We're all in danger, they insist, no matter who they kill.
Do you see the total perpetual war con job America has been sold over the years, spanning multiple presidents? There are no conditions under which we can go back to being "safe and secure," you see. There is no list of outlaws that can be taken out so that the government announces "There, now we're safe. All the bad guys are gone." Nope, instead we get this perpetual war setup that keeps the munitions manufacturers rolling in dough while our soldiers keep coming home in body bags. It is a complete con job, and it's all being used to strip away our constitutional rights and freedoms, too.
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on
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man i thought this was a ford site? not some mombo jumbo crap about some dead jewish guy?
titties and beer ftw
Posted by RODRIGUEZ (Member # 9104) on
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Although i do believe that his followers WILL seek revenge i also believe that by killing him that we will be safer in the long run.
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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1) site your sources, but make sure they're creditable and not someone that shares the same opinion as you.
2) who cares? I feel heck of a lot better that that bastard is dead.
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on
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I like turtles
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on
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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
man i thought this was a ford site? not some mombo jumbo crap about some dead jewish guy?
titties and beer ftw
im down for some titties and beer
Posted by SnakeBit (Member # 8871) on
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I couldn't agree with you more. Everybody is debating on if he is dead or not. Does it really matter? What could we gain either way? Nothing, the only one that win's is the Government, they use our "fears" to make change easier and excepted. As far as releasing pictures & video, I say that would do more harm than good. We all know millions of people are "celebrating" his death, but what about those crazy Mofo's that are now morning their leader. We now have the possibility of multiple successors or Terror plots that have been planned for years and set to go "live" upon his death. We know they have the will, I just hope they don't have the means. Either way it doesn't matter the Government will use it to their full advantage and then some. I hate to say it but this is far from over.
FYI - if it did gown down just like they told us, He got what he had coming.
[ May 03, 2011, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: SnakeBit ]
Posted by 2TONE (Member # 4216) on
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it means EASTBAY FTW
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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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In the long run the USA will be safer because he can't now speak out and get more followers.
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Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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Originally posted by kingroy:
1) site your sources, but make sure they're creditable and not someone that shares the same opinion as you.
Citing sources would certainly help the credibility of his argument, but other parts of it are already in our every day lives. His mentioning of the TSA, Patriot Act, airport security example, all reflect what has happened since 9/11. I agree with the OP to a certain degree. I think our rights as US citizens are slowly being eroded away. In my opinion, I don't think the authors of the Constitution intended for it to be interpreted in such a complicated way.
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2) who cares? I feel heck of a lot better that that bastard is dead.
The end I agree with. Glad that scumbag got his
[ May 03, 2011, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: DLo ]
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on
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Im glad hes dead too.Even if it changed nothing its well worth it.He had to pay for his actions.
Bottom line.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
man i thought this was a ford site? not some mombo jumbo crap about some dead jewish guy?
titties and beer ftw
at least it ain't the 30th thread of some ls? pics.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by kingroy:
1) site your sources, but make sure they're creditable and not someone that shares the same opinion as you.
Citing sources would certainly help the credibility of his argument, but other parts of it are already in our every day lives. His mentioning of the TSA, Patriot Act, airport security example, all reflect what has happened since 9/11. I agree with the OP to a certain degree. I think our rights as US citizens are slowly being eroded away. In my opinion, I don't think the authors of the Constitution intended for it to be interpreted in such a complicated way.
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2) who cares? I feel heck of a lot better that that bastard is dead.
The end I agree with. Glad that scumbag got his
in short you can't put the genie back in the bottle.. you can't take back what happen.. it's that simple.. what do you think will happen if we scaled back security? some other d-bag will just jack another plane and do it again.. if people think because we got obl it is all going to go back to pre 9/11.. hell no.. but getting that piece of shit, does show anyone that would attack us. it might take 10 years but we will get you no matter where you run or hide!
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by DLo:
I think our rights as US citizens are slowly being eroded away. In my opinion, I don't think the authors of the Constitution intended for it to be interpreted in such a complicated way.[/QB]
^ This is 100% how I feel.
Posted by slick5.0 (Member # 7521) on
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it means fill up ur car as much gas and get ur beer and liquor store is going to be close for a while due to a death in the family
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on
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Originally posted by slick5.0:
it means fill up ur car as much gas and get ur beer and liquor store is going to be close for a while due to a death in the family
Lmao!
Posted by FoX GT (Member # 4587) on
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Originally posted by 2TONE:
it means EASTBAY FTW
LOL
Posted by dubfive-0 (Member # 8965) on
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
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Originally posted by slick5.0:
it means fill up ur car as much gas and get ur beer and liquor store is going to be close for a while due to a death in the family
Lmao!
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on
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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
Some food for thought on his death in the aftermath. This means it's just the beginning for us imo.
You just gotta love the whole media / White House circus over the Osama Bin Laden announcements. Remember when we were told we had to go after these dangerous terrorists so we could be safer? Remember when we were told that the terror alerts had to be put on orange and red because Bin Laden was "living in a cave" and plotting to bomb us?
Well now that the White House insists they've killed Bin Laden, where's the celebration of freedom and safety? Why aren't we firing the TSA and reversing the Patriot Act? Isn't the danger now over? Can we bring bottled water back on airplanes again?
Instead, the government now says that killing Osama Bin Laden makes America MORE dangerous because his cohorts might seek "revenge."
Huh? Wait a sec... so killing Bin Laden makes America less safe? Wasn't the entire sales job on this supposed to be that killing Bin Laden would make us more safe?
Check out the logic here: George W. Bush said if we don't kill Bin Laden, we won't be safe. Obama says now that we DID kill Bin Laden, things are even less safe. So apparently, according to the U.S. government, killing them or not killing produces exactly the same result. We're all in danger, they insist, no matter who they kill.
Do you see the total perpetual war con job America has been sold over the years, spanning multiple presidents? There are no conditions under which we can go back to being "safe and secure," you see. There is no list of outlaws that can be taken out so that the government announces "There, now we're safe. All the bad guys are gone." Nope, instead we get this perpetual war setup that keeps the munitions manufacturers rolling in dough while our soldiers keep coming home in body bags. It is a complete con job, and it's all being used to strip away our constitutional rights and freedoms, too.
This is exactly how I feel, there's a lot of bullshit going on with our government and they let the media do the dirty work in spreading fear to everybody...
Posted by 94droptopGT (Member # 4992) on
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I think Bin Laden's death was a formality because the whole purpose of his existence was to create revolution through violent means in the muslim world. Once the facebookers and twatters showed everybody they could cause change in Egypt without violence it signaled an end to Bin Laden's purpose. Putting a bullet in his head was only a formality, bitch got caught slippin!
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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i think it means that everyone needs to stfu and just be happy that this fuck is dead. Our country kill him meaning other country would think twice before they fuck with us. i dont care that it took ten years but we took over that country in on time and eliminated most of this fucks. so be happy we live in this wonderful country.
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on
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Afghanistan: Objective was to capture or kill Bin Laden & the others responsible for planning the 9/11 attacks. When the Taliban refused to give up Bin Laden & Al Qaeda, our objectives changed: Capture or Kill Bin Laden & Others responsible for planning 9/11. Remove the Taliban from power and institute a new government. Train a military and police force.
All objectives are complete, we should leave. That's what we get out of Bin Laden's death.
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