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Ty
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so my cousin has a shallow mount rockford p3. and a alpine 500 watt amp. the sub is a dual 4 ohm voice coil. i want to know if i can actually wire it down to 2 ohms so he can get the full 500 watts instead of the 300 watts at 4 ohms. ive seen the crutchfield stuff on how to do it, but i want to know if its possilbe with this sub...heres the specs
CEA-2031 Compliant Woofer Quantity 1 Woofer Size 12" Woofer Series Punch Stage 3 Shallow Nominal Impedance (ea) 2-Ohm x 2 DVC Power Handling 400 Watts RMS 800 Watts Max System Configuration Sealed Enclosure Material 1/2" MDF (Medium Density Fiberboard) Speaker Connector Up To 12 AWG Binding Post Shipping Weight 30.36 Lbs. (13.8 Kg.) Dimensions H 13.5" x W 27.37" x D 5.25-3.25" (34.3cm x 69.5cm x 13.3cm-8.3cm)
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Posts: 1400 | From: vallejo | Registered: Oct 2004
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DIRTY SALLY
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dont do it youll over heat the amp blow fuses or even the amp ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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all depends on the specs of the amp.
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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Ty
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its the alpine MRP 500 heres the specs
General Product Type Amplifier Recommended Use Car Width 10.6 in Depth 9.5 in Height 2.4 in Audio System Response Bandwidth 20 - 200 Hz Signal-To-Noise Ratio 100 dBA Continuous Power / Channel Qty 300 Watts x 1 Amplifier Output 1-channel High Level Inputs Yes Input Signal Voltage 0.2 - 4V Crossover Active crossover Crossover Slope 24 dB/octave Low Pass Frequencies 50 - 200 Hz Bass Boost Frequency 50 Hz Bass Boost Gain 0 to +12dB Amplifier Class Class D Amplifier Output Details 300 Watt - 4 Ohm - 20 - 200 Hz - THD 1.0% - 14.4V DC - 1 channel(s) 500 Watt - 2 Ohm - 20 - 200 Hz - THD 1.0% - 14.4V DC - 1 channel(s) Additional Features Gold plated connectors, thermal protection, subsonic filter, over current protection, over voltage protection, gain control Connections Connector Type 1 x speakers input 1 x audio line-in ( RCA phono x 2 ) Speakers output ( screw-type ) Universal Product Identifiers Brand Alpine Electronics Part Number MRP-M500 GTIN 00793276300904, 04958043510757, 00093276300905
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Posts: 1400 | From: vallejo | Registered: Oct 2004
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CAStang
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It shows your amp to be 2 ohm stable, so it should be fine. Run the positive from your amp to the positive on one coil and the negative from the amp to the negative of the other coil. Now run a wire from the vacant negative directly to the vacant positive on the other coil. You are now at 2 ohms.
Posts: 351 | From: Santa Clara | Registered: Nov 2009
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96mysticman
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that amp is still only a 300 watt rms amp....1 channel amp and 300 watt continous rms per channel...... you need a bigger amp period....
Posts: 580 | From: stockton | Registered: Apr 2008
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Ty
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is that going to put any unsafe load on the amp or the sub if i take it down to 2 ohms
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Posts: 1400 | From: vallejo | Registered: Oct 2004
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90fox5.0
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Amp will handle the power just make sure u get a circuit breaker just in case u blow a fuse u dont have to keep buying the it save u a lot of money
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Posts: 1827 | From: South sacramento | Registered: Jul 2009
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Ty
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quote: Originally posted by 90fox5.0: Amp will handle the power just make sure u get a circuit breaker just in case u blow a fuse u dont have to keep buying the it save u a lot of money
the breaker is a good idea, its already got a fuse on the amp and one at the battery but a good idea none the less
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Posts: 1400 | From: vallejo | Registered: Oct 2004
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90fox5.0
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quote: Originally posted by Ty: quote: Originally posted by 90fox5.0: Amp will handle the power just make sure u get a circuit breaker just in case u blow a fuse u dont have to keep buying the it save u a lot of money
the breaker is a good idea, its already got a fuse on the amp and one at the battery but a good idea none the less
Yes it is and saves u alot of money and will jump the breaker instead of blowen amp subs or fuses
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92stangLX
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quote: Originally posted by 90fox5.0: quote: Originally posted by Ty: quote: Originally posted by 90fox5.0: Amp will handle the power just make sure u get a circuit breaker just in case u blow a fuse u dont have to keep buying the it save u a lot of money
the breaker is a good idea, its already got a fuse on the amp and one at the battery but a good idea none the less
Yes it is and saves u alot of money and will jump the breaker instead of blowen amp subs or fuses
Never used a breaker on an amp but you will need to have a fuse installed at the amp power cable as close to the battery lead as possible that matches the same amperage as the fuse for your amplifier.
Posts: 5302 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Sep 2003
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asskickn88
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Connect both positives on the sub together and both negatives together, then connect to the amp, that puts you at 2 ohms. That amp will take a 2 ohm load so don't worry about it, just make sure not to crank the gain all the way up or the signal will start clipping and you'll overheat the amp. The dude that told you to connect the sub the neg to the other positive terminal was wrong, you'll end up running it at 8 ohms. The only thing the fuse does is protect the power wire from burning if there's a short, it won't protect your amp or speaker. I'm running a breaker myself but will be switching to a fuse since they seem to be safer to run.  [ December 11, 2010, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
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Posts: 6069 | From: Rocklin, Ca | Registered: Oct 2004
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CAStang
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quote: Originally posted by asskickn88: Connect both positives on the sub together and both negatives together, then connect to the amp, that puts you at 2 ohms. That amp will take a 2 ohm load so don't worry about it, just make sure not to crank the gain all the way up or the signal will start clipping and you'll overheat the amp. The dude that told you to connect the sub the neg to the other positive terminal was wrong, you'll end up running it at 8 ohms. The only thing the fuse does is protect the power wire from burning if there's a short, it won't protect your amp or speaker. I'm running a breaker myself but will be switching to a fuse since they seem to be safer to run.
I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong. But the parallel diagram you just provided will keep everything at 4 ohms. Running in series is what typically cuts the resistance in half. What this diagram shows is to 4 ohm coils doubled to 8 ohms by running parallel the cut in 2 by the 2 ohms the amp is providing which equates to a 4 ohm load. ??? If I'm wrong, I would appreciate an explanation with details. Thanks in advance.
[ December 11, 2010, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: CAStang ]
Posts: 351 | From: Santa Clara | Registered: Nov 2009
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