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Posted by 5OHS5OH (Member # 4665) on
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I tried searching the DMV site and this site but couldn't find the topic, athough I know it's been brought up before.
I'm selling a current non-op, without a smog (hopefully). Is it possible, and what paperwork do I need?
Thanks.
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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I think the only way you can sell the car without smog is to write out a set of conditions in the bill of sale as an "off road only" and "as is" vehicle.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by essasin:
I think the only way you can sell the car without smog is to write out a set of conditions in the bill of sale as an "off road only" and "as is" vehicle.
nah you are still responsible I believe. If you do find that asshole buyer, I believe they can make you smog it.
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on
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seller is responsible for smog always.
you can get away without it if the buyer is cool or stupid.
Posted by 5OHS5OH (Member # 4665) on
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The potential buyer doesn't seem like he cares too much. I just thought I would do a release of liability and sign the title. Maybe I should write out a bill of sale with the "as-is" on there. I am done with smog. Hopefully my deal on a 59 olds goes through.
Posted by Bent70 (Member # 9694) on
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You can write whatever on the bill of sale, but ultimately you are responsible for smog according to California.
Honestly, I bought a car and figured on smogging it myself, which I thought was no big deal but a year later I still don't have a smog and no pink. Fighting every leak and issue just to get to the station.
I now wish I had the previous owner smog the fucking thing. ....next time
[ October 05, 2010, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Bent70 ]
Posted by CobraChick (Member # 9885) on
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i heard as long as the buyer and seller make an agreement you can sell it without smog.... if i were you i would just call DMV and ask them
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by CobraChick:
i heard as long as the buyer and seller make an agreement you can sell it without smog.... if i were you i would just call DMV and ask them
nope they can still hold you liable and it can back fire on you.
From the DMV
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When a car is sold, who is responsible for the inspection?
The seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.
The inspection is not required on a transfer if a biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).
NOTE: Smog certifications are not required for transfers that occur for a gasoline powered motor vehicle that is four or less model years old. (Determine the oldest-qualifying year model by subtracting three from the current year) the four or less model years old rule does not apply to diesel powered vehicles. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner.
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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Non op the car and sell it as a non operational vehicle. Can't smog a car that is declared not operational. Worth a shot. What kind of car are you trying to sell anyways?
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on
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The seller is responsible for the smog. If the buyer wants to pull a fast one he could do what he wants with the car after he buys it and you would still be responsible.
Posted by 5OHS5OH (Member # 4665) on
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It is a non-op right now. I think it would turn into a civil issue between me and the seller, and he already knows that the engine needs a rebuild, and I ain't hiding anything from him at all. There's nothing he's gonna run into that I didn't explain.
BTW it's an 89 GT vert. It's in the sale secton for $1800.
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