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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
460 bored/stroked to 532 made 514rwhp and 576rwtq. Some day i may put a shot of nitrous on it or maybe supercharge it.

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Originally posted by N8:
he said "bigger cubes" lmao

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I meant more cubes lol

But I'm only starting this thread because me and a few buddies of mine have been having heated debates lately.. I'll be strting another one real soon here that will prob piss some folks off hahaha...

But I did forget to add.. this is to be kept in reasonable budgets... we all wish we could build $ 10k motors but thats not reality, heck most people here can't get an aftermarket blocl..

So take it from there... I'm sticking with my forced induction 302

Someone prove me wrong.. where are all the stroker guys at

I know it's a lot of them on here
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
460 bored/stroked to 532 made 514rwhp and 576rwtq. Some day i may put a shot of nitrous on it or maybe supercharge it.

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These would be nice numbers to achieve, BUT I bet you spent 5x's more on this setup than he will on a blower or turbo on his 302. Also, if he does an supercharged/turbo HCI 302 I think he'd get close to your numbers for a lot less money.

In my opinion, if you're on a budget, I think a power adder isthe way to go...HCI strokers tend to get costly.

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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
460 bored/stroked to 532 made 514rwhp and 576rwtq. Some day i may put a shot of nitrous on it or maybe supercharge it.

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These would be nice numbers to achieve, BUT I bet you spent 5x's more on this setup than he will on a blower or turbo on his 302. Also, if he does an supercharged/turbo HCI 302 I think he'd get close to your numbers for a lot less money.

In my opinion, if you're on a budget, I think a power adder isthe way to go...HCI strokers tend to get costly.

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I think i spent 6K maybe 7K on my engine.

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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
460 bored/stroked to 532 made 514rwhp and 576rwtq. Some day i may put a shot of nitrous on it or maybe supercharge it.

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These would be nice numbers to achieve, BUT I bet you spent 5x's more on this setup than he will on a blower or turbo on his 302. Also, if he does an supercharged/turbo HCI 302 I think he'd get close to your numbers for a lot less money.

In my opinion, if you're on a budget, I think a power adder isthe way to go...HCI strokers tend to get costly.

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I think i spent 6K maybe 7K on my engine.

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If you've ever owned a supercarged car before.. whcih would prefer.. that or your lots O' cubes????

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I've never had a supercharged car before but i've driven a couple of them. i like big cubes.

480ft/lb torque at 2000rpms.

[ September 26, 2010, 02:03 AM: Message edited by: WildFire532FB ]
 

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Posted by forced331 (Member # 1270) on :
 
I choose the blower route mainly that you can make tons of HP and also be very streetable. You will not need the biggest heads or a huge cam with lots of overlap to make over 500rwhp with a blower or even easier turbo. I would love to go n/a with a 408 stroker on my next setup, but I will not make the power I am making now unless I have over 12:1 compression and a huge cam in a 408.
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
bbc 632 with 3 stages.on tt5 an run mid 7's
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
Nothing feels as smooth and clean as NA power...jmo though
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
if you had a a modular id say go with a positive displacement blower to have that "bigger cubes" feel in a "smaller cube" setup.
 

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Posted by Trunkster (Member # 6598) on :
 
03 Cobra, FTMFW
 

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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
Thanks for everone's inpu.. now time to start the next arguement
 

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Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
The more cubes you have to start with the less boost you need to have to make power.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Dart SHP 9.5" deck 4.125" bore x 4" stroke (427ci)
8.5:1 compression.

Done correctly a low compression all-motor 427ci will FAR out power the the best all-motor pump gas 347's in the area which make 450+RWHP and run 10's on motor.

Then save up for a blower or turbo down the road and push as much power as you like.
 

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Posted by theturbofrdguy (Member # 10224) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Dart SHP 9.5" deck 4.125" bore x 4" stroke (427ci)
8.5:1 compression.

Done correctly a low compression all-motor 427ci will FAR out power the the best all-motor pump gas 347's in the area which make 450+RWHP and run 10's on motor.

Then save up for a blower or turbo down the road and push as much power as you like.

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Put a turbo on that and run 18psi and put down 1k rwhp
 

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Posted by 87TURBO (Member # 9257) on :
 
In my opinion, if you're on a budget, I think a power adder isthe way to go...HCI strokers tend to get costly. [/QB][/QUOTE]
+1
 

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Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Dart SHP 9.5" deck 4.125" bore x 4" stroke (427ci)
8.5:1 compression.

Done correctly a low compression all-motor 427ci will FAR out power the the best all-motor pump gas 347's in the area which make 450+RWHP and run 10's on motor.

Then save up for a blower or turbo down the road and push as much power as you like.

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what he said
 

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Posted by Ryan. (Member # 7089) on :
 
no replacement for displacement
 

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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Build a strong, 10-1 stroker motor. If that is not enough, then boost it. At least you have a solid foundation, and a cam swap is all that you would need to get the motor optimized for the power adder. Sure, it's tempting to add a $1,500 used S-trim to your stock shortblock, but it's only a ticking time bomb.
 

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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 

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Build a strong, 10-1 stroker motor. If that is not enough, then boost it. At least you have a solid foundation, and a cam swap is all that you would need to get the motor optimized for the power adder. Sure, it's tempting to add a $1,500 used S-trim to your stock shortblock, but it's only a ticking time bomb.

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when did i say stock shortblcok???
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
nobody ever said you cant have both ..id choose a hci s trim over an all motor 347..both can get you into block splitting territory tho..so what you decide is up to you..but thats on a stock block..if a dart came into play id love to have a big cube stroker with some boost or juice ..hell even both!!
 

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Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Why would you put a 3.00 stroke crank in a an aftermarket block? I don't see the point in leaving 40 plus cubes on the table.
 

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