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Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
I went to look at these at the dealer today, nice cars. I really want one,as much as I'd hate to pay for one, it seems like the right car for me.
I didn't have much time to talk to the dealers, and they didn't even come outside to talk.
But by looking at the sticker, how much would one of these go for OTD?
I looked at two, one had the brembo package, 6 speed but it had some gay louvers on the side I don't like, but they wanted 38k for it, and the other was an auto with no brembo package for 36k.
I've never bought a new car before, how far do they budge of the msrp?
Also, someone was mentioning something about the "X plan"
Anybody have any idea what that is?
Thanks
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
Never pay msrp you can always get it way lower.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
There is usually quite a bit of wiggle room. And have them throw in extras. I normally immediately ask for the fleet manager when I buy. They are not on commission (normally) and tend to not BS around. Be sure to shop around. If you have your own loan going in and or a nice down payment you can haggle a lot more.
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
The new 5.0 is supposed to be a hot ticket item. You might not get a dealer to budge unless its like the end of the month or something.
 
Posted by CobraChick (Member # 9885) on :
 
I never heard of an "X plan" but i know they have a D plan because my husband use to sell Fords and when you have a family member work at a Ford Dealer you can buy your car on a D plan and basically you pay dealer costs for the car
 
Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
PM "TWINS" he's a salesman at Livermore Ford or you can i can PM you his number if your really interested.
 
Posted by username1822 (Member # 8583) on :
 
Try going to Costco, they have an auto program for members. They have a few dealers they work really close with and have set pricing, typically $500 or less above invoice. Then you don't have to haggle about pricing at all. You can either get your own financing or go through the dealer, but the actual car pricing will already be set.

[ August 30, 2010, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: username1822 ]
 
Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on :
 
x plan is for people who work or are retired from ford. D plan is the friends and family plan. my uncle buys all his fords on x plan.
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CobraChick:
I never heard of an "X plan" but i know they have a D plan because my husband use to sell Fords and when you have a family member work at a Ford Dealer you can buy your car on a D plan and basically you pay dealer costs for the car
FORD HAS MANNY DIFFERENT PLANS D IS JUST THE BEST FORD HAS TO OFFER.
IF YOU CAN WAIT INTILL OCT THERE GOING TO BE A NEW FORD DEALER OPENING IN THE 707 AN THERE WILL BE SOME KILLERS DEALSTO BE HAD
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
A friend at work went in to buy one with 34,5K. The dealer would not go below 35K. I would wait a little, they will get more flexible later in the year.
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
I've used the X Plan to buy my last two Fords. It's basically invoice plus 4% I believe. I like it because it's a no hassle price.

As for paying $36k for an auto... OUCH. I paid $32k for my '03 GT Convertible and I thought that was too much. Honestly, I don't know that I would ever buy another new car again. The depreciation on them, especially Mustangs, is crazy. If you put $0 down, you're going to be upside down the minute you drive off the lot.

[ August 30, 2010, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: wilit ]
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
I'm going to try and pick one up when I'm back in California, I'll be out that way in September for a little bit hopefully I can find a deal on one. If anyone sees anything let me know, I'm a motivated buyer lol
Also thanks everyone for the input
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
FAIRFIELD FORD OPENS IN OCT AN FORDS ALWAYS CUT THERE NEW DEALER FAT BREAKS TO GET PEOPLE IN THE DOOR
 
Posted by SFvert (Member # 3965) on :
 
drove a v6 2011 and gawt damn, that thing hauls ass. u should ask to test drive it before you make a final decision, but the new 5.0 is [worship]
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
When in October does the new dealership open?
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnCM:
When in October does the new dealership open?
just heard it opens in oct an sunnyvale toyota is the one who own it now
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
$36K for a Mustang? sheeeeeeeeit, that'll be the day.
 
Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Maybe its because I haven't driven enough cars or finished school and making big money yet, but 36k seems like a lot for a mustang no?
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
$36K for a Mustang? sheeeeeeeeit, that'll be the day.
+1 puck dat! thats close to used c6 z06 prices.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
36 isn't bad considering it's LOADED with a 6 speed, Brembo package, ETC. Compare to a loaded Camaro which isn't as fast, as nice to drive, ETC. It's a lot of car for the money, compared to what else is out there...........
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
36 isn't bad considering it's LOADED with a 6 speed, Brembo package, ETC. Compare to a loaded Camaro which isn't as fast, as nice to drive, ETC. It's a lot of car for the money, compared to what else is out there...........
$38k was for the loaded car, $36k was for the automatic.

Still though, what other 400hp car can you buy brand new for $36k? A Camaro is about the only thing I can think of. Challengers are $32k for the V6.

[ August 31, 2010, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: wilit ]
 
Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
I don't see myself buying any more new cars unless I sell a couple of the ones I have now. As someone said above the depreciation is brutal and overall cars, trucks..whatever are the worst investments you can make (even if you get kickbacks when it serves as a "work" vehicle).

There is always room to haggle, but if you go into the dealership without the basic information (how much are the cars are currently selling at, the prices at which dealer pays for the cars, etc, etc) expect to pay a lot more then you have to. The best thing to do is go in there with the set attitude that you have a set amount of money in your back pocket (take it or leave it) and you will come out with a better deal. Always compare the MSRP with the invoice price. That is the area which you should work with.

Another thing is whether or not your financing. There is not a better feeling then telling the finance manager:

"Look..I know what what MSRP is and I know what the invoice prices is. I have $47K cash right now. I want the dark grey GT500 in the front row. I want the car now, but if you want to haggle you are going to have to throw in some extras!. If not I am walking..plus I know another ford dealership that actually wants to sell some cars."

[ August 31, 2010, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: CobramanPhil ]
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
I think you can save money if you got a more basic one, the 6 speed one had some lame body appearance package junk that looked horrible, but it was fully loaded.
I want a dark blue with black cloth interior one with the brembo package. Probably going to have to order it, unless there's one on a lot ready to go already..
 
Posted by SlowStockFox (Member # 1081) on :
 
get a 6 speed and if they still have the shaker system get that too. i hope you find one. that be so sick.
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
$36K for a Mustang? sheeeeeeeeit, that'll be the day.
Especially when you can get one for less than 25K in a few years.
 
Posted by Justa2V (Member # 3749) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 70mach351:
x plan is for people who work or are retired from ford. D plan is the friends and family plan. my uncle buys all his fords on x plan.
Uhhh I'm not sure if that's enitrely accurate. I utilized the "x" plan when I bought my Explorer and I've never worked for Ford and I'm no where near retirement. I believe what you said is partially true but I do believe Ford offers the plan to affiliates of their choosing like my company.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
$36K for a Mustang? sheeeeeeeeit, that'll be the day.
Especially when you can get one for less than 25K in a few years.
I'll be playing with 96-04 Cobras until the 2011GT comes down to the $12-15K range [Razz]
 
Posted by Stealth1 (Member # 7849) on :
 
Like some else said ask for the fleet manager. I've got almost the same car on order now. I built the car on the ford site and got the net price with the only options I wanted. I then tried to get a online quote from a few different local dealers to see if they would sell at Msrp or would they try to tack something extra on. I couldn't get a quote from any of them. They wanted me to come in and buy something they already had in the lot. Screw that. I stopped by Fremont Ford and happened the run into the salesman that had been sending me non-stop emails but never my quote. He started trying to sell me a gt premium and wanted me to test drive it. So I did. I then told I wasn't going to buy that car. It didn't have the brembos or 3.73's and it had extras that I didn't want to pay for. I ended up talking to the fleet manager and got the car I wanted on order for invoice.
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stealth1:
Like some else said ask for the fleet manager. I've got almost the same car on order now. I built the car on the ford site and got the net price with the only options I wanted. I then tried to get a online quote from a few different local dealers to see if they would sell at Msrp or would they try to tack something extra on. I couldn't get a quote from any of them. They wanted me to come in and buy something they already had in the lot. Screw that. I stopped by Fremont Ford and happened the run into the salesman that had been sending me non-stop emails but never my quote. He started trying to sell me a gt premium and wanted me to test drive it. So I did. I then told I wasn't going to buy that car. It didn't have the brembos or 3.73's and it had extras that I didn't want to pay for. I ended up talking to the fleet manager and got the car I wanted on order for invoice.
if you plan on modding it might be a good idea not to do with the 373s.. with more power it will make you shift into 5th in the quartermile... and thas a no no
 
Posted by myzticsnake (Member # 9334) on :
 
5th is the 1:1 ratio gear in the 5.0 6 speeds. Shift into it all you want.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stealth1:
Like some else said ask for the fleet manager.....
Yup who ever said that knows what the hell he is talking about. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
my fourth gear with a t-56 and 4.56's barely tops out at 124 in the quarter..I doubt 3.73's will be an issue
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by myzticsnake:
5th is the 1:1 ratio gear in the 5.0 6 speeds. Shift into it all you want.
that doesnt matter.. shifting into 5th will negate any benifits of shorter gears.. you never want to shift right before the traps.. plus 331 gears will make the 5.0 a monster on the freeway.
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
my fourth gear with a t-56 and 4.56's barely tops out at 124 in the quarter..I doubt 3.73's will be an issue
different tranny.. and i doubt your car makes it to 124.
 
Posted by topnotcht-top (Member # 9599) on :
 
if you want a good deal honestly the two words that all the sales manager and sales guys dred is "FACTORY INVOICE" buy law if you ask for it they have to show you what they recived the vehicle for and you maybe you will be able to bargen 200 above invoice and get a killer deal on it
 




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