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Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
So my old desktop motherboard/chip blew up a month ago and i just bought a new motherboard and a faster chip. The new motherboard only has sata connections on it and none of the old ribbon connections that my hard drives use, is there a way to connect my old hard drives to my new computer? Like a special wire or something?

[ July 08, 2010, 10:22 PM: Message edited by: WildFire532FB ]
 
Posted by cagedblackgt (Member # 10090) on :
 
Go to Fry's and get yourself an IDE to SATA converter....i think they are 10 or 20 bucks each.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Awesome, so there is such a thing i will do that then, its just a wire right? nothing more complicated than that?
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
OK got the sata converter, now i ran into another problem my video card is so old its not compatible with my new motherboard, when is this shit going to end. I guess i should have figured the new stuff wouldn't work with 10 year old equipment. This computer is going to be badass though if it works haha.
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
why didnt u just buy a new comp?
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
Post up your new build. If you are upgrading after 10 years to new hardware you basically will need to do a complete rebuild because of compatibility and power requirements of newer technology.

If you are not really set on reusing your drives, I would suggest you purchase a new hard drive. It's more cost efficient, you store your data on a newer drive for protection, and you will notice a bump in performance. These days 60 bucks can get you a 1TB drive.
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
Post up your new build. If you are upgrading after 10 years to new hardware you basically will need to do a complete rebuild because of compatibility and power requirements of newer technology.

If you are not really set on reusing your drives, I would suggest you purchase a new hard drive. It's more cost efficient, you store your data on a newer drive for protection, and you will notice a bump in performance. These days 60 bucks can get you a 1TB drive.

What he said above, With old equipment like that your better off just upgrading everything because technology changes so fast.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
why didnt u just buy a new comp?

Shit i should have. I've almost now spent more than a new computer at bestbuy. Waiting on the new video card now.

ASUS motherboard with an intel quad core 3.3Ghz chip
6Gs of ram and now an cheaper than the expensive video cards out now but 100x better video card than my last one.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 90GT510:
why didnt u just buy a new comp?

Shit i should have. I've almost now spent more than a new computer at bestbuy. Waiting on the new video card now.

ASUS motherboard with an intel quad core 3.3Ghz chip
6Gs of ram and now an cheaper than the expensive video cards out now but 100x better video card than my last one.

DAMN! Do you have an Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition 3.3GHz 6.4GT/s LGA1366! I think the lga775 maxes out at 3ghz with the Q9650.

You are going to need a new power supply if you didn't purchase one already. Going with a midline video card I would suggest getting at least a 600w+ antec, corsair, some fsps, or seasonic power supply. They are efficient and have stable rails. Your old power supply is most likely a 20 pin and you'll need a 24 pin. A solid pw is the most critical component of a PC.

Also I would definitely spend 50 more bucks and get a new hard drive for your OS. No point in purchasing 6GB of ram and a 3ghz quad when your HD will bottlenecking it. PATA drives max out an avg of 100 M/B sec while SATA drives are around 150 MB/SEC+ The difference in your build is significant. If you purchased the chip that I think you purchased, you should be looking into SSD hard drives.

Make sure you run 64 bit Vista or Win7. Any 32bit windows maxes out at 3.5gb of ram even if it recognizes more. Google physical address extension for more info about it.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
My old computer i thought the power supply failed so that was the first thing i bought so i have a 24 pin power supply that matches the motherboard and chip.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Once i get the computer running i am planning on getting a led monitor and a 1.5Tb hardrive for it. I just need all the info on my two harddrives.
I plan on using XP
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Once i get the computer running i am planning on getting a led monitor and a 1.5Tb hardrive for it. I just need all the info on my two harddrives.
I plan on using XP

When it comes to computer monitors don't buy into the whole LED thing. It is just a gimmick. There is no such thing as an LED monitor. It's actually an lcd panel with an LED backlite. Purchase a monitor with an IPS panel if you are going to spend money. The colors and picture quality is unmatched.

If you use XP you will only be using 3.5GB out of the 6GB that you have.
 
Posted by cagedblackgt (Member # 10090) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Once i get the computer running i am planning on getting a led monitor and a 1.5Tb hardrive for it. I just need all the info on my two harddrives.
I plan on using XP

When it comes to computer monitors don't buy into the whole LED thing. It is just a gimmick. There is no such thing as an LED monitor. It's actually an lcd panel with an LED backlite. Purchase a monitor with an IPS panel if you are going to spend money. The colors and picture quality is unmatched.

If you use XP you will only be using 3.5GB out of the 6GB that you have.

Unless you get XP 64bit.

Also the monitor thing is 100% true.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
You will have one nice system. I wouldn't stress about spending more than what a pre built computer would cost at best buy. You have far better components that are worth more for your money.

Good luck on the build!
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
You will have one nice system. I wouldn't stress about spending more than what a pre built computer would cost at best buy. You have far better components that are worth more for your money.

Good luck on the build!

Thanks man. I am a little nervous about putting the thermal shit on and then putting the fan on the chip. I burned up a couple AMD chips doing that shit.
by the way it is a i7-960 LGA1366 3.3Ghz
That sucks i'll only be using 3.5Gs of my ram [Frown] I got it on sale though so i can't complain maybe i'll upgrade sometime but i haven't had any problems with XP.
I am looking forward to getting this thing running. I am just nervous about putting the fan on and all that stuff.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
You will have one nice system. I wouldn't stress about spending more than what a pre built computer would cost at best buy. You have far better components that are worth more for your money.

Good luck on the build!

Thanks man. I am a little nervous about putting the thermal shit on and then putting the fan on the chip. I burned up a couple AMD chips doing that shit.
by the way it is a i7-960 LGA1366 3.3Ghz
That sucks i'll only be using 3.5Gs of my ram [Frown] I got it on sale though so i can't complain maybe i'll upgrade sometime but i haven't had any problems with XP.
I am looking forward to getting this thing running. I am just nervous about putting the fan on and all that stuff.

You have one hell of a chip. It's a monster. The heatsink and fan is really easy to install on with lga 1366. It's just plastic pins that you push through. It's a whole lot easier than the older amd heatsinks and chips that. Just follow the directions that is provided. Putting the computer together is cake compared to putting a fastback together.

The good news is that the thermal paste is already applied on the stock heatsink that comes with your cpu. You'll see some type of substance on the copper surface. It is ready to be installed right out of the box.

But if you are using an aftermarket heatsink and have to apply the thermal paste remember a little goes a long way. Just put a single grain drop on the processor and place the headsink on top. The pressure with the heatsink clipped on will be enough to spread the thermal paste.

Let me know how it goes or if you run into any problems. Good luck!
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
You will have one nice system. I wouldn't stress about spending more than what a pre built computer would cost at best buy. You have far better components that are worth more for your money.

Good luck on the build!

Thanks man. I am a little nervous about putting the thermal shit on and then putting the fan on the chip. I burned up a couple AMD chips doing that shit.
by the way it is a i7-960 LGA1366 3.3Ghz
That sucks i'll only be using 3.5Gs of my ram [Frown] I got it on sale though so i can't complain maybe i'll upgrade sometime but i haven't had any problems with XP.
I am looking forward to getting this thing running. I am just nervous about putting the fan on and all that stuff.

You have one hell of a chip. It's a monster. The heatsink and fan is really easy to install on with lga 1366. It's just plastic pins that you push through. It's a whole lot easier than the older amd heatsinks and chips that. Just follow the directions that is provided. Putting the computer together is cake compared to putting a fastback together.

The good news is that the thermal paste is already applied on the stock heatsink that comes with your cpu. You'll see some type of substance on the copper surface. It is ready to be installed right out of the box.

But if you are using an aftermarket heatsink and have to apply the thermal paste remember a little goes a long way. Just put a single grain drop on the processor and place the headsink on top. The pressure with the heatsink clipped on will be enough to spread the thermal paste.

Let me know how it goes or if you run into any problems. Good luck!

Oh ok so thats what that stuff is, should i put more on? i have some of that silver thermal stuff. i am just worried about bubbles or something. i don't want to fry this thing.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
You will have one nice system. I wouldn't stress about spending more than what a pre built computer would cost at best buy. You have far better components that are worth more for your money.

Good luck on the build!

Thanks man. I am a little nervous about putting the thermal shit on and then putting the fan on the chip. I burned up a couple AMD chips doing that shit.
by the way it is a i7-960 LGA1366 3.3Ghz
That sucks i'll only be using 3.5Gs of my ram [Frown] I got it on sale though so i can't complain maybe i'll upgrade sometime but i haven't had any problems with XP.
I am looking forward to getting this thing running. I am just nervous about putting the fan on and all that stuff.

You have one hell of a chip. It's a monster. The heatsink and fan is really easy to install on with lga 1366. It's just plastic pins that you push through. It's a whole lot easier than the older amd heatsinks and chips that. Just follow the directions that is provided. Putting the computer together is cake compared to putting a fastback together.

The good news is that the thermal paste is already applied on the stock heatsink that comes with your cpu. You'll see some type of substance on the copper surface. It is ready to be installed right out of the box.

But if you are using an aftermarket heatsink and have to apply the thermal paste remember a little goes a long way. Just put a single grain drop on the processor and place the headsink on top. The pressure with the heatsink clipped on will be enough to spread the thermal paste.

Let me know how it goes or if you run into any problems. Good luck!

Oh ok so thats what that stuff is, should i put more on? i have some of that silver thermal stuff. i am just worried about bubbles or something. i don't want to fry this thing.
Intel put the perfect amount of thermal compound on the heatsink so I wouldn't put anymore on. I know it looks like it could use more but you really only need a very, very thin layer.

You actually run the risk of overheating by putting too much because it will "blanket" the cpu. Let me know if you need help locating software.
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
Dana why not upgrade to windows 7 64bit? Im running it on almost the same machine you are putting together and i couldnt be happier.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
Dana why not upgrade to windows 7 64bit? Im running it on almost the same machine you are putting together and i couldnt be happier.

I haven't played with that operating system so i don't know anything about it. Right now i just want to get the computer running because of all the stuff on my harddrives.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
OK another question i should have this thing running tonight. Do i need to play with the bios or can i just turn the computer on and have it work?
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
ON heatsink is on, it was a bitch, i should have played with it before installing, it wasn't one were you just push on, i hope its not fucked up cause i had to pull it off to see how to tightens down.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Anyone i got the computer together, just waiting for an answer before i turn it on and fry my chip.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
Anyone i got the computer together, just waiting for an answer before i turn it on and fry my chip.

Make sure the board is properly grounded and the bottom is not touching the bottom of the motherboard tray. Double check the 24pin main and the extra 4 or 6pin (its either or) from the power supply to motherboard. Double check the ram is seated correctly.

Reseating the HSF is fine. It won't damage anything. The thermal compound is still fresh and in the correct place.
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
Good luck and hope it boots right up.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Turned it on, everything is working except nothing in my screen [Frown] Not sure whats going on. My monitor makes the clicking noise when i plug it into the video card. So its not working.
 
Posted by cagedblackgt (Member # 10090) on :
 
Do you get any beeps at all? If the memory, cpu or vid card is not seated or deteted properly, everything can boot but leave the monitor blank
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cagedblackgt:
Do you get any beeps at all? If the memory, cpu or vid card is not seated or deteted properly, everything can boot but leave the monitor blank

make sure you have the monitor on auto sense, sometimes if it was setup for VGA and you have it hooked up DVI it will still try to display in VGA. And what he said above do you get beeping noises? may be worth starting it up in safe mode as well could be bad video driver if its a new video card.

[ July 09, 2010, 12:45 AM: Message edited by: liftedF150 ]
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
i don't have a speaker for the beeps and if i do its not hooked up or its not beeping.
 
Posted by cagedblackgt (Member # 10090) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
i don't have a speaker for the beeps and if i do its not hooked up or its not beeping.

The beeps are actually from the motherboards on board speaker. If your not getting anything I would recommend reseating all of the cards
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cagedblackgt:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
i don't have a speaker for the beeps and if i do its not hooked up or its not beeping.

The beeps are actually from the motherboards on board speaker. If your not getting anything I would recommend reseating all of the cards
Just reseated the video card and still nothing, one of the slots says Express Gate, should i have my video card in that one maybe?
Its a P6X58D-E ASUS motherboard not sure if it matters what slot i put the video card in.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
People are telling my my power supply is underpowering my computer, its a 530W. [Frown]
 
Posted by cagedblackgt (Member # 10090) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
People are telling my my power supply is underpowering my computer, its a 530W. [Frown]

The vid card will not draw max power until max load.

Cna you take a pic of the setup, showing where everything is seated? Also make sure the memory is in the right spots, if you got a dual or tri channel motherobard there are certain spots where the sticks of ram go.

take some pics!

and if I fix it I get to drive your car [Razz]
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
What brand powersupply are you running? List the specs of your complete build.

When nothing comes up on the screen strip the computer down to the bare minimum.

Mobo, cpu, 1 stick of ram, 1 video card using vga. Place everything in the first slot. Make sure the cpu, ram, and video card are seated correctly. Make sure the mobo does not have any bent pins and double check to make sure the mobo is not being shorted.

Double check the 4 pin near the top left corner above the cpu is connected. Check to see if the board lights up, the heatsink fan and video card fans spin.

If that all checks out and still does not work you will have to troubleshoot individual components.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
What brand powersupply are you running? List the specs of your complete build.

When nothing comes up on the screen strip the computer down to the bare minimum.

Mobo, cpu, 1 stick of ram, 1 video card using vga. Place everything in the first slot. Make sure the cpu, ram, and video card are seated correctly. Make sure the mobo does not have any bent pins and double check to make sure the mobo is not being shorted.

Double check the 4 pin near the top left corner above the cpu is connected. Check to see if the board lights up, the heatsink fan and video card fans spin.

If that all checks out and still does not work you will have to troubleshoot individual components.

I need to connect a 4 pin connect to the motherboard on the top left corner? I thought the 24 pin was the only power supply
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Try doing this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvSEgorDM-Y
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
What brand powersupply are you running? List the specs of your complete build.

When nothing comes up on the screen strip the computer down to the bare minimum.

Mobo, cpu, 1 stick of ram, 1 video card using vga. Place everything in the first slot. Make sure the cpu, ram, and video card are seated correctly. Make sure the mobo does not have any bent pins and double check to make sure the mobo is not being shorted.

Double check the 4 pin near the top left corner above the cpu is connected. Check to see if the board lights up, the heatsink fan and video card fans spin.

If that all checks out and still does not work you will have to troubleshoot individual components.

I need to connect a 4 pin connect to the motherboard on the top left corner? I thought the 24 pin was the only power supply
I forgot to add to recheck the mobo to make use it's not being shorted. Recheck the the ram, 24 pin main, and make use the video card has power if there is a 4 or 6 pin male side on the video card. Some require more power.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
i plugged that in and it didn't change anything. Still nothing on the screen, monitor acts like its not getting a signal at all. There is no power connection for the video card and i didn't see anywhere were it could be grounding.
A bunch of my friends tell me the 530W power supply is not enough for this build, what do you think?
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Anyone wanna buy this computer off me i'll sell it for 800.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
- Rosewill Green Series RG530-S12 530W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7,i5" Power Supply
- P6X58D-E Motherboard with a Intel 3.3Ghz i7 chip
- ASUS ENGT420 Silent video card
- 6Gs OCZ High Performance DDR3 Ram
- Its in a nice tower has 2 DVD burners
 




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