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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Stangs R Us</b> <br /><small>Member # 4495</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,2,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> what to look for when trying to identify a real grand national , any help would be greatly appreciated , thanks. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>86redGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 6961</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,2,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> A. It should be black<br />B. It should have a turbo<br /><br />Beyond that i don't really know, look around online im sure you can find a website about it, they had some styling differences as well from the t-types. From what i can remember They had a different hood badging and interior as well as a different set of wheels. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NiftyWhiteFifty</b> <br /><small>Member # 4320</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,2,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 86redGT:<br /><strong> A. It should be black<br />B. It should have a turbo<br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thank you captain obvious! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> sorry i couldn't resist. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />there's gotta be a way to check the vin number and see that it is indeed a real grand national <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /><br />you should be able to find some answers here: <a href="http://www.turbobuicks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.turbobuicks.com</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>86redGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 6961</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,2,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> haha its all good, but he did ask what he should look for <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br />i didnt want him to roll up on a purple T-type and think it was a grand national<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 20, 2009, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: 86redGT ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NiftyWhiteFifty</b> <br /><small>Member # 4320</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,3,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> LOL. very true! not black, not a real grand national! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>solbrothers</b> <br /><small>Member # 7524</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,3,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> they never made white grand nationals? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>HaulinAss Motorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,4,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by solbrothers:<br /><strong> they never made white grand nationals? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No those were T-types or Turbo T's<br /><br />The VIN Should Identify if it indeed is a Grand National. T-types will VIN out a Regal with a 3.8 Turbo. <br /><br />Also you can go to <a href="http://www.turbobuicks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.turbobuicks.com</a> to decifer the VIN and for more info as there is a registry for them.<br /><br />EDIT Some T-Types were also referred to as a WE4. They are similar to theGrand National also were all Black but had different wheels and Chrome Bumpers<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 20, 2009, 04:27 AM: Message edited by: HaulinAss Motorsports ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Stangs R Us</b> <br /><small>Member # 4495</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,4,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> hmm does anyone have carfax<br /><br />im pretty sure it is tho black , correct interior , all body , turbo , dash turbo gauge etc. oh well im probably gonna pick it up , thanks.<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 20, 2009, 04:44 AM: Message edited by: Stangs R Us ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Stangs R Us</b> <br /><small>Member # 4495</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,4,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> anyone got some 20" chrome irocs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>HaulinAss Motorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,5,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Stangs R Us:<br /><strong> hmm does anyone have carfax<br /><br />im pretty sure it is tho black , correct interior , all body , turbo , dash turbo gauge etc. oh well im probably gonna pick it up , thanks. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hit up Jdub07 for carfax <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Hozr</b> <br /><small>Member # 6196</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,11,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> There should be a serialized GNX plaque above the glove box that is very distinctive. THey were not "supposed" to be sold to the public kind of like the mystichrome paint. <br /><br />"The interior changes of the GNX included a serial number on the dash plaque and a revised instrument cluster providing analog Stewart-Warner gauges, including an analog turbo boost gauge."<br /><br />Also fender badges, flares, lots of other details.<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Grand_National#Grand_National.2C_T-Type_and_GNX" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Grand_National#Grand_National.2C_T-Type_and_GNX</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>solbrothers</b> <br /><small>Member # 7524</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,12,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by solbrothers:<br /><strong> they never made white grand nationals? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No those were T-types or Turbo T's<br /><br />The VIN Should Identify if it indeed is a Grand National. T-types will VIN out a Regal with a 3.8 Turbo. <br /><br />Also you can go to <a href="http://www.turbobuicks.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.turbobuicks.com</a> to decifer the VIN and for more info as there is a registry for them.<br /><br />EDIT Some T-Types were also referred to as a WE4. They are similar to theGrand National also were all Black but had different wheels and Chrome Bumpers </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i was trying to think of where i saw a white grand national, and yeah, i made one on forza LOL <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>COBRAreflection</b> <br /><small>Member # 5247</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,20,20,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well that's for a GNX. I don't think this dude is in the market for one of those unless he has $80 grand!<br /><br />There are no white Grand Nationals, but the some of the Turbo T's came in white and a lot of people will powder coat the bumpers and trims black.<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 20, 2009, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: COBRAreflection ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>fr5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 8652</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,21,1,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 86redGT:<br /><strong> A. It should be black </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">acctually,<br />Though they looked like high-performance machines, the first Grand Nationals began life as stodgy Regal coupes that were plucked from the assembly line in Pontiac, Michigan. In batches of fifteen, they were trucked down the road to Cars and Concepts in Ann Arbor, where the cars were disassembled and underwent the conversion process. <b>The sides of the Regals were masked off and sprayed in a silver two-tone.</b> A front air dam was fitted underneath the Buick's chrome bumper, and a rear duckbill was stuck onto the trunklid's trailing edge. Bolstered seats from GM supplier Lear Siegler replaced the standard velour park bench, and Buick's "Power 6" badges found their way onto the fenders and wheel centers. <br /><br /> <a href="http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/retro/Motive_Retro_Review_1987_Buick_Grand_National.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/retro/Motive_Retro_Review_1987_Buick_Grand_National.shtml</a><br /> <br /> <small>[ March 21, 2009, 01:47 AM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Fast92lxcoupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8221</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,2,22,14,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ask 87coupe510 He's the one to talk to about Nationals <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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