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Jaejae5.0
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if i painted my coupe black with white doors and a white roof would i be gettin harrased by police because of it?
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Venomized93
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Supposedly there is a violation code with doing that. There was an article that mentioned it in the past. Pretty much they were complaining to police departments for just taking of the stickers of vehicles and selling them in auctions but not painting them over, which was a violation of the vehicle code. That's where I saw it, I'll try to find it.
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stanger50
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no, you can do what you want as long as you dont have blue or red lights.
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Venomized93
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27605.htm
quote: Vehicle Resembling Law Enforcement Vehicle 27605. No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle painted in the manner described in Section 40800 to resemble a motor vehicle used by a peace officer or traffic officer on duty for the primary purpose of enforcing the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) pursuant to Section 40800.
The provisions of this section shall not apply to vehicles which are painted one solid color or to vehicles first registered on or before January 1, 1979. These provisions shall not apply to vehicles which are any of the following:
(a) Owned by vehicle manufacturers or dealers.
(b) Used by law enforcement agencies in the enforcement of the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000).
(c) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for movie or television production and display signs stating "movie car" prominently on the doors.
(d) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for funeral escort purposes.
(e) Motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without insignia.
Amended Ch. 340, Stats. 1981. Effective January 1, 1982.
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Jaejae5.0
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now i jus gotta decide if i wanna do it or not..lol..thanks venomous
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Mr.Lucky
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i cant find the article but in the past few years a guy painted his new mustang to immitate the Saleen from Transformers, decals and all. Local police complained and actually took the guy to court, where the judges went against police saying his car violated no codes. Wish i could find the article
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Jaejae5.0
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youl think ill befine since their wont be a spotlight on the car?..or it makes no difference?
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stanger50
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i had a blacked out vic with pa system, strobes and siren with amber lights and i didnt get fucked with. no red and blue lights and dont try to pull people over and you'll be good.
i used to run hunters point and sunnydale all day long.
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Jaejae5.0
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hahaha
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SlowFiveOh94
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Why would you want to? It wouldn't even look good.
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Venomized93
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Here is more:
quote: 27604. When a motor vehicle, painted, as required by Section 40800, and formerly used in the enforcement of the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or 11 (commencing with Section 21000), is sold to any person and is used for purposes other than law enforcement, the vehicle shall be painted or partially painted by the seller or agency formerly using such vehicle so that it will no longer resemble a vehicle complying with Section 40800 and any insignia or other marking of the vehicle identifying it as a traffic law enforcement vehicle shall be removed by the seller or agency formerly using such vehicle before it shall be operated on any street or highway, other than to have the vehicle moved to be painted or to a place of storage. The provisions of this section do not apply to former law enforcement vehicles, without insignia, which are painted one solid color, or which are used exclusively for movie or television production and display signs stating "movie car" prominently on the doors, or which are motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without insignia.
27605. No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle painted in the manner described in Section 40800 to resemble a motor vehicle used by a peace officer or traffic officer on duty for the primary purpose of enforcing the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) pursuant to Section 40800. The provisions of this section shall not apply to vehicles which are painted one solid color or to vehicles first registered on or before January 1, 1979. These provisions shall not apply to vehicles which are any of the following: (a) Owned by vehicle manufacturers or dealers. (b) Used by law enforcement agencies in the enforcement of the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000). (c) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for movie or television production and display signs stating "movie car" prominently on the doors. (d) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for funeral escort purposes. (e) Motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without insignia.
27606. (a) No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle which is equipped with a light bar, or facsimile thereof, to resemble a motor vehicle used by a peace officer or traffic officer while on duty within that jurisdiction for the primary purpose of enforcing Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) pursuant to Section 40800. (b) For purposes of this section the following definitions apply:
(1) A "light bar" means any light or device affixed to or mounted upon the roof of a vehicle and extending the width of the roof, or a substantial portion thereof, which emits amber, red, or blue, or any combination of those lights. (2) A "facsimile of a light bar" is any device designed or contrived to resemble a light bar regardless of the degree of light emission or lack thereof.
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Jaejae5.0
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quote: Originally posted by SlowFiveOh94: Why would you want to? It wouldn't even look good.
because I like the way it looks and i dnt care what other people think
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Kaindia50
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quote: Originally posted by bottled95GT??: i cant find the article but in the past few years a guy painted his new mustang to immitate the Saleen from Transformers, decals and all. Local police complained and actually took the guy to court, where the judges went against police saying his car violated no codes. Wish i could find the article
i think you were talkin about this 1 rite
http://www.autounleashed.com/guy-paints-car-like-police-cruiser-officials-are-ok-with-it
Vegas Man Paints Car Like Police Cruiser LAS VEGAS (AP) ― Jessie Vigil's black-and-white car sports a red-and-blue emergency bar across the top and the word "police" painted on the doors. Vigil, however, isn't a cop. Law enforcement agencies say what he's done with his car isn't illegal as long as he doesn't act like a police officer.
He started decorating his 2007 Ford Mustang last summer to look like the police cruiser in the "Transformers" movie because his 7-year-old son, Thomas, was fond of the film.
"My intent was to re-create the movie car," said Vigil, a 35-year-old disabled veteran from the war in Iraq. "When I came back from Iraq, I tried to spoil him. I wasn't the best dad before."
He said he called the district attorney's office beforehand and spoke to Chief Deputy District Attorney Joe Ulibarri, who tried to discourage his decorating scheme but couldn't find anything in the law that would stop Vigil as long as he didn't impersonate an officer.
Ulibarri said a state law prevents people from mimicking state police cars, which are painted black and white. But he also said the state police sell their old cars to private citizens without changing the colors.
"Are we violating our own law by not repainting them?" he asked.
He called the state law vague, and noted that normal state police cars aren't Mustangs.
"I don't think this guy has any intent to mimic a state police officer," Ulibarri said. "I'm not hearing that he is causing a problem and arresting people."
A close look shows Vigil's car isn't a police cruiser. Instead of the familiar slogan "To protect and serve," it carries a motto: "To punish and enslave" on the side. Instead of telling people to dial 911 for emergencies, the Mustang advises them to "dial 411 for theater information."
He originally marked his car, "Transformers police" but later changed it to just "police." He also added what appears to be a bar of emergency lights, but said they're not actual lights.
Vigil acknowledged people have mixed feelings about his car.
State police Capt. Craig Martin said the agency is "concerned for the safety of people who think he is an officer and think they may get help from him.
"People around town know who he is, but not those people on the interstate."
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Mr.Lucky
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that was it
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Black88GT
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I think Geek Sqad had some issue with this issue. Thay had to black out all their doors. I would like to get a CHP SSP someday and completely restore it. I would make it all white though so it can be driven on the road without being harassed. You could alway check out ssp.org, and Im sure you can find info on there.
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drews50
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yeah the geek squad had to paint their doors black for all of their cali cars b/c they looked like chp cars. dunno why you would waqnt to paint your ca rlike that unless it is a real ssp. if it isn't people will laugh at you. i know i would.
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asskickn88
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Man, I say as long as its legal do what makes you happy.
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sic70stang
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my friend had gotten a ticket for having white doors and was forced to paint it.
i was glad though cuz it was not a real ssp car anyways.
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Hozr
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So Ford is on violation for every white, black, or silver Crown Vic they sell?
I call BS. There are plenty of out there that look like "Police" cars. Mustangs aren't even used as police cars anymore so how could they get you for it resembling a police car. Go for it
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solbrothers
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call your local DMV. they should be able to tell you.
this guy lives in nevada, when he comes to cali, he has magnets that say "patrol" on them, because he cant have the word "police" on the car
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8stang8
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PAINT the doors white!!!
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50 Deep
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Bro if u wanna run the risk of painting your car like a prior police vehicle then be prepared to deal with all the associated headaches. And u would want to make sure all ur shit is in order when/if u get stopped. Cuz if its not then they are probably gonna toss ur shit on the racks and take it to the impound.
If ur car is not a daily driver and u got the funds for a lawyer then do it. Cuz some cops might find it cool and others won't. But if u drive that thing everyday and don't drive like a grandma u will probably get popped cuz its gonna stand out.
Just don't come on here complaining if ur shit gets towed or they place a stop on ur vehicles registration until u get it repainted.
Just my 2
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50 Deep
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Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels
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solbrothers
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based on the way u drive, and teh car you drive, you'll get your shit towed with the quickness
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Jaejae5.0
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quote: Originally posted by 50 Deep: Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels
i was thinkin black bullits with a chrome lip..or some 96 cobras..i really like those...well my car wont be off to paint for another month er 2 so ill have time to think about it...thanks everyone for the info and opinions
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