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Topic: Why isn't this soldier getting a Medal Of Honor? Any soldiers in here?
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AL STOCK
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Cuzzon
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/death_by_grenade
Wow, shot several times in the face and grabbed a grenade to save his boys, i'd give him 5 Medal Of Honor.. He died for his country..
What do you guys think of this?
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Marine praised by Bush won't get Medal of Honor By CHELSEA J. CARTER, AP Military Affairs Writer
Thu Sep 18, 5:52 AM ET
A Marine sergeant singled out by President Bush for throwing his body on a grenade to save his comrades in Iraq will receive the prestigious Navy Cross rather than the nation's highest military award, military officials said.
The family of Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who was posthumously nominated for the nation's highest military honor, told the North County Times of Escondido, Calif., they were disappointed he was not receiving the Medal of Honor.
"I don't understand why if the president has been talking about him," his mother, Rosa Peralta, told the newspaper, which was the first to report the bestowing of the Navy Cross.
Rosa Peralta said she was informed during a meeting with Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Richard Natonski that a committee could not agree on awarding the Medal of Honor to her son, who Marine Corps officials say was first wounded by friendly fire. She said the general mentioned the friendly fire aspect as part of her son's death during the discussion.
Marine Corps spokesman Mike Alvarez confirmed the meeting, saying only that it was a personal briefing between Natonski and Rosa Peralta to inform her that the secretary of the Navy would award the Navy Cross posthumously for extraordinary heroism.
The Navy Cross is the second highest honor for combat heroism a Marine can receive.
The secretary of the Navy's public affairs office in Washington, D.C., did not immediately return an after-hours telephone call Wednesday seeking comment.
Headquarters Marine Corps spokesman Maj. David Nevers told The Associated Press that the Navy Cross for Peralta "is not bestowed lightly."
Nevers said only 23 sailors and Marines out of the thousands who have served in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan have received the Navy Cross.
"The awarding of a medals of valor is a methodical process and carefully conducted to ensure the sacrifice and service of our Marines and sailors is appropriately honored," he said.
Peralta was shot several times in the face and body during a house-to-house search in Fallujah on Nov. 15, 2004, during some of the fiercest fighting of the war.
According to a report by a Marine combat photographer who witnessed the act, Peralta lay wounded on the floor of a house and grabbed a grenade that had been lobbed by an insurgent. He absorbed the blast with his body, dying instantly.
In 2005, Natonski, then-commanding general of the 1st Marine Division, ordered an investigation to determine the source of a bullet fragment recovered from Peralta's body.
"Following multiple and exhaustive reviews, the evidence supports the finding that Peralta was likely hit by 'friendly fire,'" the Marine Corps said Wednesday in a press release. "This finding had no bearing on the decision to award the Navy Cross medal."
Bush cited Peralta's heroism in a Memorial Day speech in 2005, saying the Marine "understood that America faces dangerous enemies, and he knew the sacrifices required to defeat them."
Peralta, who was assigned to Hawaii's 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, moved to San Diego from Tijuana as a teenager. He was 25.
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Posts: 6501 | From: San Bruno | Registered: Sep 2002
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I was talking to my oldest brother about this (a retired military guy). He said being it was friendly fire and if his resulting wounds were likely fatal as in would die on the spot without the nade. That doing the grenade thing would not yield the Medal of Honor, though honorable. Also they don't say whether it was a enemy grenade or should I say it was up for speculation when talking to my bro. My brother also said these type of friendly fire accidents are pretty common. And the family should be pretty proud the award being given.
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/death_by_grenade
Wow, shot several times in the face and grabbed a grenade to save his boys, i'd give him 5 Medal Of Honor.. He died for his country..
What do you guys think of this?
He's a Marine not a soldier btw ![[Wink]](wink.gif) There is so much bureaucracy and investigations done with medals now, especially the Medal of Honor. I think he deserved it regardless if he took friendly or insurgent fire cause he didn't know at the time he put himself on the grenade. 5 Medal of Honors have been given during the war on terror, 3 of which were for similar acts. Either way Rip my fallen brother. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
[ September 18, 2008, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: SEMPERFI510 ]
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I agree /\ anybody who puts ther life on the line for our country deserves a metal of honor.
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The Navy Cross is nothing to scoff at....
RIP brother
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He wouldnt have necessarily been killed by 5 gun shots. A grenade on the other hand is really what did him in. btw my grandfather got the purple heart in ww2. He had to have the toes blown off of his right foot by a land mine, in the process saving the rest of the marines in his troop
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The Navy Cross is nothing to scoff at....
RIP brother
This is also very true.
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/death_by_grenade
Wow, shot several times in the face and grabbed a grenade to save his boys, i'd give him 5 Medal Of Honor.. He died for his country..
What do you guys think of this?
He's a Marine not a soldier btw There is so much bureaucracy and investigations done with medals now, especially the Medal of Honor. I think he deserved it regardless if he took friendly or insurgent fire cause he didn't know at the time he put himself on the grenade. 5 Medal of Honors have been given during the war on terror, 3 of which were for similar acts. Either way Rip my fallen brother.
You pretty much summed it up my fellow Marine. That is probably why. But then people always will debate. My .02 is that he saved their lives and f*** the medals. Like many people in the military seen medals given for installing computers or to a a Staff NCO for work that their troops did, etc, etc.
You guys in the military know what I'm talking about. So I am glad we have men and women with B**** to do what he did and protect us from harm. I am sorry that he lost his life and that his family is suffering for his loss. God bless them everyday.
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Speaking of medals, I seen this 94-98 silver Mustang. Not sure if it was a V6-V8 from what I remember. Anyhow it was on El Camino in San Bruno making a left by the IHOP place. The guys plates had a Purple Heart CA license plate. Anybody know him or seen him? I didn't catch a face to the vehicle, so I'm not sure if he was young or old. Right when I seen that, It just made me wonder what dude went through and to survive it and now show it off a purple heart plate, LOL. I would have that shown everywhere.
[ September 19, 2008, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: Venomized93 ]
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