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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Well the Lord blessed me and my family last night. So as a result I am considering making the jump from foxes to the newer year stangs. Like the 01-06 range. Been looking on CL and saw a Saleen, Roush and Cobra I like. But I am ashamed to say it. I dont know much about any of them. I know Cobras are popular (the one I plan on checking out is a 01 is it better to go newer like 04?). I think the Roush's look sick. And Saleens as well. This will be by far not a daily driver, and will almost be in some sort of time capsule as I plan to only drive it about 1k miles a year. I guess you can say I am looking for input on which to buy. Not gonna rush into a buy, may take a few weeks to do it. But things I would like to know is:

1. Performance wise which one is hotter. (Although I will never race it)

2. Which is wife friendly (I know this one doesn't go with #1 but hey, she will be driving it too)

3. Which holds value better

4. Is there any colors or options on the respective choices I should look for? (like are some colors rarer than others.)

5. Any random input, tech advice, flames, off-topic posts would be great as well.

[ February 15, 2008, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
An 03/04 Cobra is probably going to be your best bet on all accounts. They are the best built, fastest and most powerful stock for stock and are a very refined nice to drive car as well. As for hold its value....well, lets face it, no late model mustang really does that...lol
 
Posted by FoX GT (Member # 4587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
1. Performance wise which one is hotter. (Although I will never race it)
Unless you're ready to fork out some serious cash for a supercharged Saleen or Roush Stage 3 (Read 50K+) then the 03-04 Cobra is the hottest. 390 underrated hp from the factory from a 6spd. Pulley, exhaust and tune and you're at rougly 500RWHP. Blower swap and some supporting mods and you're at 600RWHP.

quote:
Originally posted by N8:
2. Which is wife friendly (I know this one doesn't go with #1 but hey, she will be driving it too)
Does your wife drive stick? 03-04 Cobras only come in a 6spd, Mach 1s are stick/auto.

quote:
Originally posted by N8:
3. Which holds value better
Well, seeing as brand new 04 cobras were 34K, low mileaged ones in CA are 27-29K and average mileaged ones are $25K. Thats pretty good for holding their value over 4 years.

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Originally posted by N8:
4. Is there any colors or options on the respective choices I should look for? (like are some colors rarer than others.)
Did you see the pictures of Tinner's Machinator? I never thought I was a fan of orange until I saw Tinner's Mach 1 in person. If you're looking at 03-04 cobras, the 04 cobras with dark charcol inserts for the front seats are more desireable than the light grey 03s.


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Originally posted by N8:
5. Any random input, tech advice, flames, off-topic posts would be great as well.
If you're going to look at 99-01 Cobras, just skip them and look at the Mach 1s. Better heads (Same as 03-04 cobras), and it already comes with a solid axle.

It really depends on which styling you like more. The 01-04 styling or the 05+. FWIW, you can put a ford racing whipple on an 05+ GT for around $5000 and be at about 420RWHP with a Ford tune.

[ February 15, 2008, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: FoX GT ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Thanks man....I am feversihly looking up things on the net. As I dont want to spend 13-30k on a car and end up with crap. But what sets the 04 Cobras apart from the 04's if you dont mind me asking?

And actually I mis-stated I dont think I am going as high as 06 with the car. 50k is out of the question...lol. Wifey isnt having that. At this point she cannot drive a stick, but I dont want her learning on this kind of car either. [patriot] But I have a fox she can learn on. She always says she dont want to learn to drive stick until we bag a Corvette.

[ February 15, 2008, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
She dont want to learn to drive stick until we bag a Corvette.
Well what are you waiting for? [Razz]

I've seen 03/04 C5 Z06's with 30k-ish miles for mid 20's lately I think. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
She dont want to learn to drive stick until we bag a Corvette.
Well what are you waiting for? [Razz]

[Big Grin]
X2!! [patriot]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
She dont want to learn to drive stick until we bag a Corvette.
Well what are you waiting for? [Razz]

I've seen 03/04 C5 Z06's with 30k-ish miles for mid 20's lately I think. [Big Grin]
2 seaters come after the kids are gone. [patriot] Plus if I get a vette I want no other butts to have been in the seats but ours.

[ February 15, 2008, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Any info or comments on the roush stangs? I love the look of them. This is one I am going to look at hopefully this weekend
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/574556065.html

I know it has lambo doors, but I still like the scheme
 
Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Any info or comments on the roush stangs? I love the look of them. This is one I am going to look at hopefully this weekend
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/574556065.html

I know it has lambo doors, but I still like the scheme
hey n8 i was just going to send you that link...also ive seen a few 05-06 saleens for around 29k if your in the market for one....i envy you for getting one the wife will drive my gf wouldnt consider a 5-6 speed...hell she cant drive an auto
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Man I feel like a little ass kid. I may check out this saleen as well http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/573503214.html

I just dont fully know what is what with all the cars. But with the info given and my web search getting a bit better. Truthfully my wife will still probably drive her c70 or any stang I buy. But I have to make her feel good by including her [patriot]
 
Posted by lethal2v (Member # 8213) on :
 
If driving a stick is out of the question then id try and find a low mileage auto Mach 1.
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
i honestly dont know where to start since i have so much to say. i'll say this though.......

the roushes are nice, but unless its a stage 3 i wouldnt get one.
saleens IMO, are nicer and faster than the roushes. that black saleen is nice but aint supercharged, BUT its very nice and well taken car of as far as i can see. overall i'd get the 03/04 cobra, very nice cars my dream car infact, but they are meant to be driven so might aswell get a saleen. u can also always procharge the saleen and it'll quite fast. so its up to u.......good luck [patriot]
 
Posted by Beasty5.0 (Member # 2935) on :
 
I have my 2003 Silver Cobra for sale. Below is a link to my Craigslist ad. I have a potential buyer coming this weekend to look at her, but he might just be window shopping. Let me know.

2003 Silver Cobra
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
You fucker, Id kill for an 03 or 04 cobra.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Man I am so leaning towards a Roush just for the looks alone. The stage 3 ones are grip tho. If I go that route I would have to finance.

Gonna be checking this weekend. Beasty gonna send you a email through cl. I dont think I saw a phone number in the ad
 
Posted by FriscoNotch (Member # 5916) on :
 
Roush Stage 3 FTW!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xu2bTvwBotc
 
Posted by SVT'S FINEST (Member # 7522) on :
 
i have an 03 cobra!

i love it!

im a chick and its not that hard to learn stick... im sure if your wife learns how to drive it, she'll love that car that much more!

maybe go test drive the different ones around at a dealership and see how you liek each one handles, and then look into private sellers
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Man I am so leaning towards a Roush just for the looks alone. The stage 3 ones are grip tho. If I go that route I would have to finance.

Gonna be checking this weekend. Beasty gonna send you a email through cl. I dont think I saw a phone number in the ad
like i said, wont settle for less than a stage 3, GO BIG OR GO HOME [Big Grin]

but its ur money, ur choice.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SVT'S FINEST:

maybe go test drive the different ones around at a dealership and see how you liek each one handles, and then look into private sellers
Exactly what I am doing this weekend. And maybe next too. Thats a bit too much bread to just drop without looking around.

Thanks all, and thanks for that Roush vid. That pushed me a bit closer to a Roush.
 
Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
If you want the looks go for the Roush or Saleen.

If you want the power get the cobra (you can always put a kit on the cobra. I still think anything less than a Stage 3 or 281-sc are just GT's with a body kit and some suspenion stuff....

No matter what the cobra has a better power plant.

I had an 03 and i wish i never lemoned the thing.
[patriot]
 
Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Plus if I get a vette I want no other butts to have been in the seats but ours.
Any pics of said butts????

Man you should get a supra!!! Any mkiv tt 6 speed will hold its value and if anything prices will go up!
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
Cobra
 
Posted by 2003 SVT ROUSH (Member # 7976) on :
 
Go with the 03 04 cobra , i just got lucky and got one of the Roush edition cobras , but finding somebody selling a real one would be difficult .
but man the 03 04 is where its at power train wise and they look awsome
 
Posted by Mach103 (Member # 746) on :
 
Buy a Mach 1, cant go wrong there. Oh wait heres one.Ill give it too you for a good price. Mach 1
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mach103:
Buy a Mach 1, cant go wrong there. Oh wait heres one.Ill give it too you for a good price. Mach 1
yup real clean car too nate, seen it in person wish i had the fundage. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
Saleen- you should expect to get a Supercharged saleen avg miles for about 23-25K.

You can get a 03 Cobra for about 25K (hey I have a 2003 Maroon Cobra 38K miles [Big Grin] )

Roush (I just don't LIKE)

Value's are all different, its just depands what you like. I think they all would keep there values, If you ask me I would buy a Cobra becasue if you ever want or need to sell it, you could sell a cobra QUICK!

Good Luck
 
Posted by 87_Hatch (Member # 6714) on :
 
03 COBRA!!!!!! go for the mystic if you can find a nice one for a good deal
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
I say you look for a s351 now thats a car that will hold its value still lots of power and more rare then any of the other cars you are looking for.
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
heres a stage 3 roush for ya
http://www.specialtysales.com/2002-ford-mustang-roush-stage-3-c-1202.htm
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Well I test drove several cars over the weekend. Now I see why some of you like your stangs unGodly fast. But I hate to say that I am leaning towards some home upgrades with the money. Turning a spare storage space into a server room with raised floors and a few rackmount servers. Also leasing a T1 to the house. This could be a nice upgrade for my company's current server/hosting solution plus a fat tax deduction and house upgrade.

Right now I am fighting with the kid in me and the grown man in me.
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Well I test drove several cars over the weekend. Now I see why some of you like your stangs unGodly fast. But I hate to say that I am leaning towards some home upgrades with the money. Turning a spare storage space into a server room with raised floors and a few rackmount servers. Also leasing a T1 to the house. This could be a nice upgrade for my company's current server/hosting solution plus a fat tax deduction and house upgrade.

Right now I am fighting with the kid in me and the grown man in me.
if you do that let me know i would love to see some pix when your done.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Well I test drove several cars over the weekend. Now I see why some of you like your stangs unGodly fast. But I hate to say that I am leaning towards some home upgrades with the money. Turning a spare storage space into a server room with raised floors and a few rackmount servers. Also leasing a T1 to the house. This could be a nice upgrade for my company's current server/hosting solution plus a fat tax deduction and house upgrade.

Right now I am fighting with the kid in me and the grown man in me.
if you do that let me know i would love to see some pix when your done.
Will do, gonna stroll down to the permits place today and see what is up. Then talk to my data provider. Might not be feasible.

Dammit, its a holiday [Mad]

[ February 18, 2008, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Well I test drove several cars over the weekend. Now I see why some of you like your stangs unGodly fast. But I hate to say that I am leaning towards some home upgrades with the money. Turning a spare storage space into a server room with raised floors and a few rackmount servers. Also leasing a T1 to the house. This could be a nice upgrade for my company's current server/hosting solution plus a fat tax deduction and house upgrade.

Right now I am fighting with the kid in me and the grown man in me.
if you do that let me know i would love to see some pix when your done.
Will do, gonna stroll down to the permits place today and see what is up. Then talk to my data provider. Might not be feasible.

Dammit, its a holiday [Mad]
Do you do alot of hosting is that why your looking for a T1? You may be better off looking into a data storage place instead of just building one as far as cost goes in the end.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
well we do co-locate right now. While we dont do much hosting, we do maintain some apps we have built. But I was thinking more for our archive/development area (and gaming servers [Big Grin] ). I am not totally happy with what we are paying as far co-locating. And it may not totally go away, but it would be cool to bring our development environment in house so to speak. but I do agree it may not be feasible. So I am weighing that out plus still thinking on if I am still getting another vehicle. I wish I was more of a impulse buyer sometimes. I tend to think things out too much. [dance]
 
Posted by ModularMotorz (Member # 5954) on :
 
cobra. you wont regret your decision.
 
Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :
 
Get a supra a tt 6 speed mkiv!
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Well I test drove several cars over the weekend. Now I see why some of you like your stangs unGodly fast. But I hate to say that I am leaning towards some home upgrades with the money. Turning a spare storage space into a server room with raised floors and a few rackmount servers. Also leasing a T1 to the house. This could be a nice upgrade for my company's current server/hosting solution plus a fat tax deduction and house upgrade.

Right now I am fighting with the kid in me and the grown man in me.
if you do that let me know i would love to see some pix when your done.
Will do, gonna stroll down to the permits place today and see what is up. Then talk to my data provider. Might not be feasible.

Dammit, its a holiday [Mad]
Do you do alot of hosting is that why your looking for a T1? You may be better off looking into a data storage place instead of just building one as far as cost goes in the end.
All the 365 Main Datacenters!! We just finished setting up our 5th storage site in the oakland 365 datacenter from ground up past week. [Whoo Whooooo!] [worship]
 
Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
heres a stage 3 roush for ya
http://www.specialtysales.com/2002-ford-mustang-roush-stage-3-c-1202.htm
An 03 Cobra would be a better deal than that. A $25k Cobra would have more hp stock and cheaper by far..
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
heres a stage 3 roush for ya
http://www.specialtysales.com/2002-ford-mustang-roush-stage-3-c-1202.htm
An 03 Cobra would be a better deal than that. A $25k Cobra would have more hp stock and cheaper by far..
ya i would go with a cobra personaly
 




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