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Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
What do you guys thing of this? Another case of parents bowing to their kids and letting them raise themselves or actually listening to what their kid wants and respecting it?



http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3088298&page=1

'I'm a Girl' -- Understanding Transgender Children
Parents of Transgender 6-Year-Old Girl Support Her Choice

By ALAN B. GOLDBERG and JONEIL ADRIANO
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From the moment we're born, our gender identity is no secret. We're either a boy or a girl. Gender organizes our world into pink or blue. As we grow up, most of us naturally fit into our gender roles. Girls wear dresses and play with dolls. For boys, it's pants and trucks.

But for some children, what's between their legs doesn't match what's between their ears -- they insist they were born into the wrong body. They are transgender children, diagnosed with gender identity disorder, and their parents insist this is not a phase.

"A phase is called a phase because it is just that. It ends. And this is not ending. This is just getting stronger," Renee Jennings told ABC News' Barbara Walters. The Jennings asked that "20/20" not disclose their real name in order to protect the identity of their 6-year old transgender daughter, Jazz.

Most transgender children still live in the shadows, hiding from a world that sees them as freaks of nature. Rejected by their families, many grow up hating their bodies, and fall victim to high rates of depression, drug abuse, violence and suicide.

Today, hundreds of families with transgender children -- who have found each other over the Internet -- are taking a dramatically different course. They're allowing their children to live in the gender they identify with in order to save them from a future of heartache and pain.

"I think we're a very normal family," said Renee's husband, Scott. "I think we have a very healthy marriage. We love to watch our children in all of their activities, whether it's at school, or on the field playing sports."

'You're Special'

On the surface, the Jennings and their four children are a typical American family. But their youngest child, Jazz, is only in kindergarten, and already she is one of the youngest known cases of an early transition from male to female.

"We'll say things like, 'You're special. God made you special.' Because there aren't very many little girls out there that have a penis," said Renee. "Renee and I are in 100 percent agreement as to how we should raise Jazz," said Scott. "We don't encourage, we support. And we just keep listening to what she tells us."

From the moment he could speak, Jazz made it clear he wanted to wear a dress. At only 15 months, he would unsnap his onesies to make it look like a dress. When his parents praised Jazz as a "good boy," he would correct them, saying he was a good girl.

The Jennings wanted to believe it would pass. Scott said he "was in a bit of denial" about what Jazz was trying to tell them. After all, even their rowdy twin boys, who are two years older than Jazz, had painted their nails growing up. But Jazz kept gravitating to girl things, insisting that his penis was a mistake.

When Jazz was two, he asked his mother a question that left her numb and frozen. "[He] said, 'Mommy, when's the good fairy going to come with her magic wand and change, you know, my genitalia?" according to Renee.


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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.... im sorry, love and compassion my ass, thats parents not putting their foot down and putting their CHILD in their place.... If ur kid is 15+, thats their own choice then, but until then ur job as a parent is to correct and teach ur kid, not the other way around, its the way the parents raise their kids. Obviously this couple fucked up.

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Dr. Volker then brought out anatomically correct male and female dolls for Jazz to play with, and asked him to point out which one looked like his body. According to Dr. Volker, Jazz pointed to the male doll and said, "This is me now," and then pointed to the female doll and said, "This is what I want."

[ June 29, 2007, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: bottled95GT?? ]
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
coulda fooled me
 

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Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.... im sorry, love and compassion my ass, thats parents not putting their foot down and putting their CHILD in their place.... If ur kid is 15+, thats their own choice then, but until then ur job as a parent is to correct and teach ur kid, not the other way around, its the way the parents raise their kids. Obviously this couple fucked up.

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
coulda fooled me

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yeah i know
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
WOW well i guess chop the dick and make a hole now crazy. Fucking parents
 

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Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:
WOW well i guess chop the dick and make a hole now crazy. Fucking parents

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.

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Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
2nd that on whipping the kid straight. I'm far from having kids but what the hell? The way I put it is like this: let's say you're growing a tree. The tree starts to bend in a bad direction. Do you let it continue to grow in a bend, or do you take a rod to it and tie it up to guide it in the right direction?
 

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Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :
 

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
wtf happens when they hit high school? locker rooms, showers, etc.. man that would suck. f'n parents need to set their kids straight. he/she is way too young to make a major choice like that.

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
wtf happens when they hit high school? locker rooms, showers, etc.. man that would suck. f'n parents need to set their kids straight. he/she is way too young to make a major choice like that.

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i never thought of that..
 

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Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 

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Originally posted by DLo:
2nd that on whipping the kid straight. I'm far from having kids but what the hell? The way I put it is like this: let's say you're growing a tree. The tree starts to bend in a bad direction. Do you let it continue to grow in a bend, or do you take a rod to it and tie it up to guide it in the right direction?

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Originally posted by BlackNGold:
First off, in the pic look at all the girl shit all around!....Pink this and pink that and what looks like girls toys too!....ITS CLEARLY the parents fault in this one...If your boy likes fires, do you buy him matches?????....NO!...Why the fuck does that boy have girl toys????....

.....Wait 'till the moustache kicks in...lol

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
wtf happens when they hit high school? locker rooms, showers, etc.. man that would suck. f'n parents need to set their kids straight. he/she is way too young to make a major choice like that.

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
wtf happens when they hit high school? locker rooms, showers, etc.. man that would suck. f'n parents need to set their kids straight. he/she is way too young to make a major choice like that.

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thats when he has a chance of getting killed just like eddie gwen from newark

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Originally posted by BlackNGold:
First off, in the pic look at all the girl shit all around!....Pink this and pink that and what looks like girls toys too!....ITS CLEARLY the parents fault in this one...If your boy likes fires, do you buy him matches?????....NO!...Why the fuck does that boy have girl toys????....

.....Wait 'till the moustache kicks in...lol

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haha that kid will *hopefully* grow hella facial hair and arm hair
 

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Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
for example. I went out with a friend and on the way to a restaurant her children started screaming that they wanted mcdonals and not chinese food. They started throwing fits and being vociferous. Fuck that. had i ever done that i would have gotten spanked and told to stfu and just eat what was given to me.

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Damn straight!! When I was younger and I went out to a restaurant once and saw a couple of kids throwing temper tantrums, my mom told me I pulled that when I was really young. She also told me that it didn't last long, she just picked me up and went to the bathroom and gave me a good beating. Then she said I sat in my high chair for the rest of the evening like a good little bitch.
 

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Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
Ya shit like this I deem the "Pussification of America". I was thinking of writing a book on events like this and call it that. Would you guys buy it? I think it has possibilities
 

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Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
omg. yeah that'd be a LONG book . but this is the problem, we are becoming TOO politically correct.
 

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Posted by Curt (Member # 6254) on :
 
you would physically abuse a child because of the way their brain is made? thats pretty messed up

that would be like trying to "smack some sense" into a mentally handicapped child
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by Curt:
you would physically abuse a child because of the way their brain is made? thats pretty messed up

that would be like trying to "smack some sense" into a mentally handicapped child

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
id whip the shit outta my kid til they get their god damn head straight.... im sorry, love and compassion my ass, thats parents not putting their foot down and putting their CHILD in their place.... If ur kid is 15+, thats their own choice then, but until then ur job as a parent is to correct and teach ur kid, not the other way around, its the way the parents raise their kids. Obviously this couple fucked up.

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Dr. Volker then brought out anatomically correct male and female dolls for Jazz to play with, and asked him to point out which one looked like his body. According to Dr. Volker, Jazz pointed to the male doll and said, "This is me now," and then pointed to the female doll and said, "This is what I want."

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Originally posted by Curt:
you would physically abuse a child because of the way their brain is made? thats pretty messed up

that would be like trying to "smack some sense" into a mentally handicapped child

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Well said.

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