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Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
I f*** up and sold a cadillac that i had to some guy who only payed me half of the money. The agreement was that i would let him take it home so that he could fix what was wrong with it and on friday of that week when he got paid he was going to pay me the rest of the money. We was not to move the car from his driveway untill it was registered under his name but when i went to check the car is no loger there. He has also avoided my calls and not picked up when i call him...

If I report it stolen am I obligated to pay him back the moeny he payed me? Nothing was on paper... I know i was stupid for letting him take the car with out full payment but I trusted the guy... now I dont want something to happen involving the car and all come back to me because im the registered owner...
 
Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5325) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIKLEEN/GT:
I f*** up and sold a cadillac that i had to some guy who only payed me half of the money. The agreement was that i would let him take it home so that he could fix what was wrong with it and on friday of that week when he got paid he was going to pay me the rest of the money. We was not to move the car from his driveway untill it was registered under his name but when i went to check the car is no loger there. He has also avoided my calls and not picked up when i call him...

If I report it stolen am I obligated to pay him back the moeny he payed me? Nothing was on paper... I know i was stupid for letting him take the car with out full payment but I trusted the guy... now I dont want something to happen involving the car and all come back to me because im the registered owner...
wait at his house with some friends and get the rest of the money.
 
Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :
 
Did you sign over the title yet?
 
Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I actually did that years back. Sold dude a car and he tried to get out of paying. But keep in mind whoever is in this car will be taken out at gun point, booked and charged. Which will piss someone off. I got my car back but actually had to fight the dude several times after that. Almost everytime we saw each other it was on. Also I was able to drop charges but he did have to spend a few nights in jail. Keep in mind you will be filing a false report which could carry some consequences for you. You will have to say you woke up and the car was gone or some shit. Not worth the hassle if you ask me. But I was young and itchin to fight. Just take the dude to court for your cash. Still may not get it, but you wont have all the back-lash.
 
Posted by Hozr (Member # 6196) on :
 
Did you sign the title and do you have a receipt?

If you signed the title, sorry you have option 1 above.

If not, Give him a deadline. If I don't have the money by Monday morning I'm reporting it stolen. Then do it.

Your only other recourse is to pursue it in small claims court but you will never collect that way either.

Or just go take it back and give him his money.
 
Posted by modular (Member # 6599) on :
 
Man up and go see him. WTF? Go get your shit.
 
Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by modular:
Man up and go see him. WTF? Go get your shit.
+1 or do the court thing. The false police report thing could be more trouble than its worth.
 
Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
the title is still under my name and there was no recipt or any paper work stating that he still owed me money... I did go to his house once but nobody answered the door, even though his car was in the driveway... this was two months ago and when I call my calls get forwarded to his voice mail... I left him several messages but no luck.
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
TWO MONTHS AGO!!!

Call the police and say he stole it from you. You didn't sign anything so all you have to say is you WERE going to sell it to him and he just took off with your car. You can even tell them he gave you a small cash deposit to test drive it. They may call you dumb for letting him take off with the car but it is still considered stolen since everything is still in your name.

fuck that guy

tell the police the truth,...he stole your car bottom line.
 
Posted by Floored (Member # 2312) on :
 
What would I do?

I would go to my police department and be 100% HONEST and tell them what happened. See if they will help you. Don't lie because it could come back on you.

Court is an option, but just because you win does not mean you would ever get paid. I have a now 4 year old judgment against Dan Starkey when he ripped me for a $3000 motor and haven't seen a dime from him.

Best of luck.
 
Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
All the popo is gonna do is tell you this is a civil matter and to take it up in court.
 
Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
All the popo is gonna do is tell you this is a civil matter and to take it up in court.
+1
To get them on it, it would have to be a straight up theft *cough* lie in this case *cough*. If they draw down on someone for a half stolen car, there will be a civil suit from hell on their asses.
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
bro just call the police department and tell them the truth and see what they say. I don't think they are going to do anything. If you still have the pink slip then "REPO" your car and keep his money, if he wants it back he has to take you to court, if you signed the pink slip over to him then you have to go to court I'm actually in the same situation, a lady bought one of our cars and we let her leave with the car. Next day she needed to bring in some paper work and well its been 2 month and we haven't seen her. I called the police but they say since she didn't give us any false information and we actually made a deal with her (like your situation the guy didn't lie to you and you made a deal) there was nothing they could do So I have a repo company trying to REPO it right now.

Good luck and JUST REPO THE SHIT! I'll cost you about $400.00
 
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :
 
It's not stolen though. If he had permission to take the vehicle then you need to go through the courts
 
Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
Stuff some potatos up the exaust pipe with a broom stick, the car will never run.
 
Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
Stuff some potatos up the exaust pipe with a broom stick, the car will never run.
lol... i might have to do that...

I tried to just pick up the car... I had called a tow truck company a while back when my car was still parked in his drive way but they refused to pick it up because they didnt want the driver to have to be involved in any confrontation even though i had explained to them that i had the pink slip in hand with my name on it....
 
Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
You might have to get a lil gangsta with him. Check with the DMV and see if he put it in his name. You might be S.O.L. You really dont need a pink slip to transfer a car.
 
Posted by HaulinAss Motorsports (Member # 541) on :
 
Who has the title? If you do and NOTHING was ever put on paper and he took the car without your concent,ITS STOLEN point blank.If he has the title then your screwed,even in court as NOTHING was put on paper.

EDIT

I just read that you have the pink.There are two ways to do it.Call it in stolen and let police know you know where it is located.Or call for a police standby while you simply take it back,they will not get involved but are there to make sure it is civil.its YOUR car do what you have to do to get it back

[ December 20, 2006, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: HaulinAss Motorsports ]
 
Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
Who has the title? If you do and NOTHING was ever put on paper and he took the car without your concent,ITS STOLEN point blank.If he has the title then your screwed,even in court as NOTHING was put on paper.

EDIT

I just read that you have the pink.There are two ways to do it.Call it in stolen and let police know you know where it is located.Or call for a police standby while you simply take it back,they will not get involved but are there to make sure it is civil.its YOUR car do what you have to do to get it back
but if I have a police officer stand by will they make me pay the guy back the money he did pay me? cause that money is long gone... I "sold" him the car back in June...
 
Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Police will not do anything if you "let" him drive off in the car. That isnt stolen, he basically frauded you and owes you money. Believe me I had this happen and I had to lie and say it was literally stolen. I doubt the police will get in between a civil argument, but they might. You can try that, or court, or get off into some street justice. Check the DMV tho, because you dont need a pink slip to transfer a car.
 
Posted by SIKLEEN/GT (Member # 2695) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by n8y8:
Police will not do anything if you "let" him drive off in the car. That isnt stolen, he basically frauded you and owes you money. Believe me I had this happen and I had to lie and say it was literally stolen. I doubt the police will get in between a civil argument, but they might. You can try that, or court, or get off into some street justice. Check the DMV tho, because you dont need a pink slip to transfer a car.
well I called to police department and they refused to just come out and stand by... so fuck it... I just went to the dmv and its still registered to me as no-op.. I also went to cadillac dealership and had keys cut for it... I'm just gonna go repo the car....
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
You should get the money and give it back to him. NO reason you should keep his money AND get the car back......

.02
 
Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
technically thats a civil issue that needs to be dealt with in a civil court between you, the other guy and the judge...you can call the police in your city and explain to them what happened and then see if they will help or tell you to go to a civil court and dispute it there...good luck
 
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
You should get the money and give it back to him. NO reason you should keep his money AND get the car back......

.02
I wouldn't give him shit back. If he came back to me with the rest of the money then he would get the car back but he certainly would not see a dime from me when he used the car, put miles on the car, or whatever. If your going flake and not return calls or pay your debts, your shit out of luck. Lessoned learned.....Pay my bills.
 
Posted by HaulinAss Motorsports (Member # 541) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIKLEEN/GT:
I f*** up and sold a cadillac that i had to some guy who only payed me half of the money. The agreement was that i would let him take it home

I know i was stupid for letting him take the car with out full payment but I trusted the guy... now I dont want something to happen involving the car and all come back to me because im the registered owner...
After reading it further,you gave him permission.If you call it in stolen thats fuct up in my book.And if you take the car give him his loot or work out a deal to get the rest of your money.I know if someone called the cops on me for false shit,id be fukkin pissed.
 




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