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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ShiftyGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 3862</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,11,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> So we were talking about the troubles in the automotive industry in my automotive class yesterday (Ford layoffs, GM losing the #1 spot to toyota...)and i just want to see if anyone has any input on this senario...<br /><br />It seems that cars these days are coming out with more and more complex electrical systems. The term for the system escapes me right now but in the next twenty years vehicles are supposed to move from using wiriing harneses to an all inclusive system where all the components are run off of 1 wire that spans the entire length of the car, basically linking the entire electrical system. This cuts down on weight and cost of production but makes diagnosis and repair more difficult.<br /><br />It seems to me that many private shops would have trouble keeping up with this type of technology... resulting in them having to turn down many jobs. After owning a new car for several years your warrenty goes away so now the dealer ship charges you an arm and a leg to fix your car. You try and take it to a private shop and you are turned away because the technology is to advanced for a small personal business to keep up on.<br /><br />So do cars start becoming more disposable?? Keep them until your warrenty is up and then move onto the next car?? It would seem that sales would boom for cars like Kia and Hyundia, because of the low cost and excellent warrenties that they offter. China is also ready to become a major player in the car industry, ive been told they are starting production on cars that get over 30 mpg and cost less than $10,000.<br /><br />Got anything to add to this??<br />Any thoughts from you private shops out there?? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Cobra5.0Jeep</b> <br /><small>Member # 1482</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,11,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I think its Gas prices, no one wants to spend any money on a new car like they used to. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2stangs69-91</b> <br /><small>Member # 1951</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,16,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> multiplexing of sensors and computers has been around since the late 80's at least. Now they are going to add the lights and other things to the wire. I do not see whay it would make it harder to diagnos. You will most likley be able to run the entire car(everything electrical from one diagnostic connector. Just study up a good dignostic tech will make some good money.<br /> <br /> <small>[ January 24, 2006, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>84GT5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 5227</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,18,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:<br /><strong> multiplexing of sensors and computers has been around since the late 80's at least. Now they are going to add the lights and other things to the wire. I do not see whay it would make it harder to diagnos. You will most likley be able to run the entire car(everything electrical from one diagnostic connector. Just study up a good dignostic tech will make some good money. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>88gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 579</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,18,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> There is also a new wireless standard - Zigbee - that is being slowly incorporated into cars right now. Mostly it is used in sensors. For example, some new BMW's can show each tire's real-time pressure to the driver - Zigbee technology allows the sensor in the tire to talk to the computer in the car and relay the pressure, obviously, without the use of wires. Think about all the other possible uses this technology could be applied too in cars... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>84GT5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 5227</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,0,24,18,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 88gt:<br /><strong> There is also a new wireless standard - Zigbee - that is being slowly incorporated into cars right now. Mostly it is used in sensors. For example, some new BMW's can show each tire's real-time pressure to the driver - Zigbee technology allows the sensor in the tire to talk to the computer in the car and relay the pressure, obviously, without the use of wires. Think about all the other possible uses this technology could be applied too in cars... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">thats some crazy technology <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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