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quote: Originally posted by cummins: I'm Mexican and I find it very offensive!
ZZZiiing....there is the cummins I expect...lol.
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quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 2stangs69-91: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 532Fastback: quote: Originally posted by Insurance Dude: i think people who are saying kick out all illegal immigrants are really missing the big picture. as of right now ammerican coperations depend on cheap labor to produce goods. they find cheap labor here in the usa with illegal immigrants or by out sourcing to other countries. if we got rid off all illegal immigrants and we put us citizens in place of them. Those employers would pass on the higher cost of their employees on to us the consumer by raising the cost of their goods.
getting rid of all illegal immigrants would cuase a major depresion in our economy.
it wont be cool or patriotic to say "get rid off all illegals" when we are all broke.
you mean the major depression our economy is going through right now without the illegals being kicked out? Kicking out the illegals will make our economy go up at this point.
Without them the problem we are having would be x20. We are slightly feeling the effects of some of the new work condition laws. And all that has to do with is providing shade and clean water..lol. Too much in society is riding on this work that most Americans will not do for the wages. It is a very necessary evil, that will only go away with reform. Not deportation or stiff penalties. Well maybe a mix of both, reform and penalties to those we cannot assimilate . It is so easy to say deport them. But you guys will be the same weenies complaining about 8 bucks per pound for grapes. Agriculture is almost as big as the oil industry when it comes to effects on economy.
And I agree with Cummins as well. I popped back in because I thought he was gonna say something funny. But he said something factual.
yes with out illegals we will all sit at home on our lazy asses and starve instead of work for food come on
You will be hard pressed to find Americans to do what they do for minimum wage or less. I personally dont know one person that will do that. And jump at the chance to do it. If Americans did those jobs the turn over rate would be tremendous.
I think you should take a cruise out to the small towns sometime. The people working in all the fastfood resturants around here are all white. The only illegals up here are the ones sent by Mexico to grow marijuana in the National Forests.
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quote: Originally posted by 532Fastback: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 2stangs69-91: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 532Fastback: quote: Originally posted by Insurance Dude: i think people who are saying kick out all illegal immigrants are really missing the big picture. as of right now ammerican coperations depend on cheap labor to produce goods. they find cheap labor here in the usa with illegal immigrants or by out sourcing to other countries. if we got rid off all illegal immigrants and we put us citizens in place of them. Those employers would pass on the higher cost of their employees on to us the consumer by raising the cost of their goods.
getting rid of all illegal immigrants would cuase a major depresion in our economy.
it wont be cool or patriotic to say "get rid off all illegals" when we are all broke.
you mean the major depression our economy is going through right now without the illegals being kicked out? Kicking out the illegals will make our economy go up at this point.
Without them the problem we are having would be x20. We are slightly feeling the effects of some of the new work condition laws. And all that has to do with is providing shade and clean water..lol. Too much in society is riding on this work that most Americans will not do for the wages. It is a very necessary evil, that will only go away with reform. Not deportation or stiff penalties. Well maybe a mix of both, reform and penalties to those we cannot assimilate . It is so easy to say deport them. But you guys will be the same weenies complaining about 8 bucks per pound for grapes. Agriculture is almost as big as the oil industry when it comes to effects on economy.
And I agree with Cummins as well. I popped back in because I thought he was gonna say something funny. But he said something factual.
yes with out illegals we will all sit at home on our lazy asses and starve instead of work for food come on
You will be hard pressed to find Americans to do what they do for minimum wage or less. I personally dont know one person that will do that. And jump at the chance to do it. If Americans did those jobs the turn over rate would be tremendous.
I think you should take a cruise out to the small towns sometime. The people working in all the fastfood resturants around here are all white. The only illegals up here are the ones sent by Mexico to grow marijuana in the National Forests.
Not really referring to fast food joints. Normally those places are on the up and up and comply with the at least minimum wage/labor laws. I am talking about the grunt work at factories, cleaning office buildings, agricultural labor. You wont catch those white guys at McDonalds jumping at the chance to do that stuff for less than minimum wage and under the table and in less than desirable conditions. That's primarily what I am referring to.
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sic70stang
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[/qb][/QUOTE]I think you should take a cruise out to the small towns sometime. The people working in all the fastfood resturants around here are all white. The only illegals up here are the ones sent by Mexico to grow marijuana in the National Forests. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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i hate getting into these debates, but please stop kidding yourselves. they are not only picking in the fields or working the fast food industry.they are working for every employer who is willing to break labor, tax and employment laws. alot of good paying construction jobs not just the small contractor picking up a day worker at home depot, but large corporations that are willing to overlook a forged social security card. my family came over from italy in 1915 they had to learn english to survive because everything in this country was writin in the UNOFFICIAL language ENGLISH. i wellcome all immagrants from all countries who want to come to this country LEGALLY to better themselves and learn the UNOFFICIAL language. the rest are putting their families at risk of being sepparated or deported thats the chance they take just like any other criminal who breaks the law. if you cant do the time-dont do the crime
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The managers of those fast food joints make good money! I know a girl who makes 60k a year running a mcdonalds. The regional of just 4 was around a 100k. Any how I say we let everyone in and just resort to an economy and Gov't of Mexico? Remember people, its not the land that makes US the U.S. its all the people here. Put us as a whole in Mexico and all those in Mexico get our land and I guaruntee nothing changes.
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Posts: 552 | From: lincoln | Registered: Jan 2005
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Ya know I almost hit the floor when I heard that there was as group of people that were trying to get schools to sing the national anthem in Mexican. I'm Spanish and I find it very offensive!
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[ December 14, 2008, 02:47 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
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hahahaha this shit is hella funny, its funny that these illegal immigrants cray about how bad they were treated, well all i have to say is screw then, they are illegal and have no rights. i hope they do some more raids...
ps. i'm an immigrant my self, and i'm all for immigrants coming to America, but do it legally!
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quote: Originally posted by 92_chp:
I second that, Most people work hard. I know for a fact American Citizen will not work in the fields picking fruit and all that good stuff. [/QUOTE]
You know that for a fact do you? I suppose you don't know my grandfather whom is a LEGAL U.S. citizen that owns and farms his own orchards and has for the last 30 years.
I suppose you don't know ME, I farmed those orchards with him for 4 years. I will be returning to farm those orchards here in a few months.
I know dozens of LEGAL Americans that WILL do that work for that pay.
I know for a fact that you my friend, are ignorant. Before you take offence to that, go look at the definition of "ignorant" because I also know FOR A FACT, that you don't know what it's meaning really is.
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quote: Originally posted by 532Fastback: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 2stangs69-91: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 532Fastback: quote: Originally posted by Insurance Dude: i think people who are saying kick out all illegal immigrants are really missing the big picture. as of right now ammerican coperations depend on cheap labor to produce goods. they find cheap labor here in the usa with illegal immigrants or by out sourcing to other countries. if we got rid off all illegal immigrants and we put us citizens in place of them. Those employers would pass on the higher cost of their employees on to us the consumer by raising the cost of their goods.
getting rid of all illegal immigrants would cuase a major depresion in our economy.
it wont be cool or patriotic to say "get rid off all illegals" when we are all broke.
you mean the major depression our economy is going through right now without the illegals being kicked out? Kicking out the illegals will make our economy go up at this point.
Without them the problem we are having would be x20. We are slightly feeling the effects of some of the new work condition laws. And all that has to do with is providing shade and clean water..lol. Too much in society is riding on this work that most Americans will not do for the wages. It is a very necessary evil, that will only go away with reform. Not deportation or stiff penalties. Well maybe a mix of both, reform and penalties to those we cannot assimilate . It is so easy to say deport them. But you guys will be the same weenies complaining about 8 bucks per pound for grapes. Agriculture is almost as big as the oil industry when it comes to effects on economy.
And I agree with Cummins as well. I popped back in because I thought he was gonna say something funny. But he said something factual.
yes with out illegals we will all sit at home on our lazy asses and starve instead of work for food come on
You will be hard pressed to find Americans to do what they do for minimum wage or less. I personally dont know one person that will do that. And jump at the chance to do it. If Americans did those jobs the turn over rate would be tremendous.
I think you should take a cruise out to the small towns sometime. The people working in all the fastfood resturants around here are all white. The only illegals up here are the ones sent by Mexico to grow marijuana in the National Forests.
so if you see a hispanic around your "small town" you assume he's mexican and then go to assume he's "sent by Mexico" to grow marijuana? you know you're very smart there!
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quote: Originally posted by NavidR: hahahaha this shit is hella funny, its funny that these illegal immigrants cray about how bad they were treated, well all i have to say is screw then, they are illegal and have no rights. i hope they do some more raids...
ps. i'm an immigrant my self, and i'm all for immigrants coming to America, but do it legally!
THIS IS MY THOUGHTS ONLY AND I DON'T MEAN TO AFFEND ANYONE!
It took my mom years of waiting to get allowed to move here from the Phillipines, and another 6 or so years to become a citizen while these fuckers bypass the rules and just walk or swim their wetback asses over here with their kids and families. If you are illegal you are a burden to all us citizens, you dont pay taxes, you dont do anything but cost us. You run into our cars with no insurance and leave us with the bill. Stop trying and succeeding at getting into our country the WRONG way, and either do it the right way or try working at getting your own country better. Yes you illegal have no honor to our country your country or yourself. I'd love to have the chance to watch my workplace raid you at work, and I'd be the first one to applause!
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Something I don't understand is you see all these illegal immigrants that have so much pride for their country and such.
I'm just curious, if you have so much pride for your country. Why don't you stay there and do something to make it better instead of fucking up my country?
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quote: Originally posted by Yaterstang: quote: Originally posted by NavidR: hahahaha this shit is hella funny, its funny that these illegal immigrants cray about how bad they were treated, well all i have to say is screw then, they are illegal and have no rights. i hope they do some more raids...
ps. i'm an immigrant my self, and i'm all for immigrants coming to America, but do it legally!
THIS IS MY THOUGHTS ONLY AND I DON'T MEAN TO AFFEND ANYONE!
It took my mom years of waiting to get allowed to move here from the Phillipines, and another 6 or so years to become a citizen while these fuckers bypass the rules and just walk or swim their wetback asses over here with their kids and families. If you are illegal you are a burden to all us citizens, you dont pay taxes, you dont do anything but cost us. You run into our cars with no insurance and leave us with the bill. Stop trying and succeeding at getting into our country the WRONG way, and either do it the right way or try working at getting your own country better. Yes you illegal have no honor to our country your country or yourself. I'd love to have the chance to watch my workplace raid you at work, and I'd be the first one to applause!
My father, mother, grandpa and grandma were here illegal and all of them payed their taxes. My dad was just able to retire at 59yr old because he paid his taxes. My uncle who is currently illegal is still paying his taxes. So please stop with the they don't pay taxes crap.
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quote: Originally posted by MustangNate: Something I don't understand is you see all these illegal immigrants that have so much pride for their country and such.
I'm just curious, if you have so much pride for your country. Why don't you stay there and do something to make it better instead of fucking up my country?
Your country...LOL. We are just taking it back, you people have had it long enough.
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quote: Originally posted by MustangNate: Something I don't understand is you see all these illegal immigrants that have so much pride for their country and such.
I'm just curious, if you have so much pride for your country. Why don't you stay there and do something to make it better instead of fucking up my country?
Come on man, thats a no brainer. I personally have sooo much pride in New Orleans (9th ward to be exact) so much in fact that I have it tattooed on me hella big (prayers go out to them matter of fact Gustav may take NO off the map). But I do recognize where the better opportunity and resources are at. Granted I moved from state to state. But I do not think there is a difference from country to country. There is just more resources and opportunity here. Not saying they aren't proud of their heritage or home land. Nothing wrong with being smart.
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you do know that New Orleans is in this Country right?.....lol
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Hey N8 please tell me what these stupid MFers are doing standing there?
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quote: Originally posted by 2stangs69-91: you do know that New Orleans is in this Country right?.....lol
Yes, read a few sentences into my statement. I compared moving country to country to moving state to state. Because actually I got teased like there was no tomorrow for bringing my country ass to cali. This was way before it was cool to be from the south.
Cummins man, I dunno. Believe it or not. I talked to a few cousins that werent leaving. Go figure. [ September 01, 2008, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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Ya man I don't know what's up with those foos standing by the wall. Fuck that I'd be outta there! I lived in the south for a long time so I can throw on that thick country accent in a split second. Hell I used to hang out at Shoe Strangs and the local people actually thought it was spelled strangs and not strings LOL! They had live chickens running around the floor and it was kinda weird eating a chicken sandwich and looking at chickens running around. Grits, chitlins, pecan pie and sweet ice tea...I miss that shit!
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N8 I saw that I was just having fun .
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