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Originally posted by phonso302:
Im a little confused here, when you say stepping stone are you looking to stay with sears and work your way up to management etc etc or more of a reference to show another company work history in that specific field. You might want to try some of those mom and pop quick lube centers they always seem to be looking for techs... as far as the hs diploma goes just say you have it no one ever checks. I have only been asked for it once, I brought mine in had it ready and wasn't even asked for it. Yeah its not morally correct but we all do un ethical shit once in a while.

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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
im also local 104, been out of a job for 9 months. company i worked for shut their and claimed bacruptcy. ive been in the trade for 11 years and im 30 now. im looking to change careers. i could find my own job but theres no union shops hiring, shits dead. i was my boss's right hand man and ran mutiple jobs.

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Originally posted by Gt MuStAng 510:
i do hvac Non-union guess what...im still working..we get slow but never the end of the world...dont get me wrong union is cool n all but not in some trades ..good luck stick to it

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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
out of san leandro, and i worked for a shop called pacific heating and sheetmetal in pittsburg. got 1 day notice and didnt get my last 3 1/2 weeks of pay.i wouldnt hesitate to go back to non union but most shops dont want to pay shit.

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Originally posted by 166 Merlot:
I read you question but cant say too much about sears... On the other hand, if your willing to learn and to stick with hvac, give it a couple more years, fuck the unioin, side jobs is where the money is at, and union will never let you get away with it. Find a good company that wont trip. If you stick with it, and make it to journeyman, then you can look forward to running your own jobsite which means:

No more insulating
No more crawling in crawl spaces, and getting hella black boogers
No more ducting in 130 degree attics trying not to step through the sheet rock... while craying your tools... and materials...
No more grunt work running line sets and getting the third degree when you kink it.
Basically your job would be, hangin out by the attic access, hooking up the furnace, and brazing evap coils (cold water breaks every 5 seconds) all while talkin on your cell phone hopefully lining up your next job. Know what im sayin?
Lastly, if you fuck something up, u have someone to fix it for you... Becuz ur the one that knows how to

Basically, if you stick with it, u get to be someone who youngsters can look to be like one day, $40 an hour as a company man and $80-$120 an hour on the side.

I really dont think sears can come close. I know it might have sucked but stick with it jmho. Good luck either way

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