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v-town coupe
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Originally posted by BlueOvalRacing:
Both the 351W and 351C have a small block bellhousing bolt pattern. Both are considered small blocks. "Mid" refers to the 351/400M (Midland engine plant) series engine. It uses the 429/460 bellhousing bolt pattern, which makes people say that it is a "big block".
damn i guess there really is a mid block!LOL
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2stangs69-91
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Blue Oval Racing please post some offical Ford Bulletin saying a Cleveland is a small block I bet you can't...prove me wrong LOL ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Motorhead6T5
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I've always known the cleveland to be a big block ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Wildfire532FB
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Someone told me FE motors aren't considered Big Blocks? Like the 428FE isn't a bigblock
anyone?
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Motorhead6T5
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Someone told me FE motors aren't considered Big Blocks? Like the 428FE isn't a bigblock
anyone?
its based off a 390 right? If so its a big block
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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
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We have a kit at the shop to put clevland heads on a windsor block, so then you have it both ways
what do you do for a mannifold?
we have the manifold too.
is it like the old B&A peformance track boss manifold?!
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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
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Originally posted by CDT:
We have a kit at the shop to put clevland heads on a windsor block, so then you have it both ways
what do you do for a mannifold?
we have the manifold too.
is it like the old B&A peformance track boss manifold?!
yes the aluminum one not the cast iron
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BlueOvalRacing
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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
Blue Oval Racing please post some offical Ford Bulletin saying a Cleveland is a small block I bet you can't...prove me wrong LOL
Ford could care less what you or I call an out of production for 30 year engine. But, since you need proof, here is page 220 from the 06 Ford Racing catalog - look below. They actually consider the M (modified to them) as a small block also, but it has the big block bell. An engine with a small block bellhousing is a small block, etc... semantics(sp?)
Now it's your turn to prove to me that a Cleveland is a "big block". I'll bet you can't.
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BlueOvalRacing
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Oh yeah 2stangs, what was the bet? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Someone told me FE motors aren't considered Big Blocks? Like the 428FE isn't a bigblock
anyone?
its based off a 390 right? If so its a big block
428,427,410,406,390,352 were all FE Big Blocks. Also, the 361 and 391 truck motors were FE's too. There might have been a few others like 331 or 332 but they are all the same family. It is a Big Block I don't care what anyone tells you. I've been an FE enthusiast for about 8-9 years now, so I kinda know a bit about them. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
[ February 17, 2006, 12:34 AM: Message edited by: SmokeyBurnout ]
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Wildfire532FB
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Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
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Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Someone told me FE motors aren't considered Big Blocks? Like the 428FE isn't a bigblock
anyone?
its based off a 390 right? If so its a big block
428,427,410,406,390,352 were all FE Big Blocks. Also, the 361 and 391 truck motors were FE's too. There might have been a few others like 331 or 332 but they are all the same family. It is a Big Block I don't care what anyone tells you. I've been an FE enthusiast for about 8-9 years now, so I kinda know a bit about them.
You got any pics of a 428 in a Mustang?
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I never said the cleveland was a Big block engine you didn't read what I wrote. I have the same catalog but I think they finaly grouped it there because it had no home in the original publications of 30 years ago they didn't classify it as far as I know.
http://www.californiafords.com/cgi-bin/album.pl?photo=00001951/Victor428_1.jpg
here is a 69 engine compartment with my old 428 i am to stupid to link LOL
[ February 17, 2006, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
the heads on the cleavland jus have humongus intake runners is all but stilla small block if anything if could be a mid blockLOL but with todays technology and the price it takes to build a cleavland def. more advantage runing a windsor!
yep 351c cost to much to build. just buld a sick 351w.(408 )
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Camaro Kid Z/28
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clevelands are expsensive to build.i've done three of them in the past with all my torinos! clevland only in my torino...unless its a 460! but they can spin really high and take advantage of those big ports! ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif) i've always wanted to build a stroked cleveland, they make a 408ci kit and something alittle bigger as well! those ports work so well that they would cut the heads in sections and bolt them down onto the top of 300ci 6 cylinder dragsters back in the day! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Originally posted by GRIGGYJAMESJIMBO:
OK, i remember I had a disscusion with someone, at some point of my life. They told me that a 351 C/W was the smallest of FORDS' BIG BLOCKS- and my side of the argument was that a 351 block was probably the biggest of the SMALL BLOCKS Ford has to offer. Who is with me, I'm pretty damn sure that a 351 is a SMALL BLOCK, any input from the engine GURU'S would greatlly help.
I just remembered as I was reading recent post. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
351= SMALL BLOCK
Maybe a 352 FE (Ford Edsel)?
Lol
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