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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
And about the whole gang banging thing, thats a L.A. thing, crips, bloods, damus etc. Out here in the bay its all just turf wars becuase of drugs and random ass shootings over stupid ass shit like where you live(Block wise), car jackings, theft, and because someone got they're ass beat. The whole time I have lived in the bay(20 years) I have never seen or heard of anyone get shot because of colors...well maybe in the early 90's. Just last night there was a double shooting in el cerrito a few blocks away from where community leaders met up to discuss violence and how to stop it.

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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02

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There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02

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so by this thinking,might as well not convict anyone of any crimes because of the possibility of them being innocent. that'll work wonders

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
Smoke his ass. Should have been done 20 years ago.Yeah I bet he is sorry now

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He cannot possibly make up for all the wrong he has done. There is no redemption for him except in heaven, if he even gets to go there.

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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Yet he is a member of several in jail

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Hey, I'm just passing on the info. From what I saw on tv, many gangs say that he is still a part of them.

I have the feeling that Arnold wont check his email that night when his sentance is to be carried out.

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I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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Hey, I'm just passing on the info. From what I saw on tv, many gangs say that he is still a part of them.

I have the feeling that Arnold wont check his email that night when his sentance is to be carried out.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
dont think hes scared to die like he says hes not, he was shot and almost killed many times but its a complicated choice cuz of his track record gang members and kids respect him in the streets and listen to him which gives him the power to make a change

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
As far as I know they are still very dead.

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thats funny

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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now once he gets out someone from the opposide gang may try to execute him themself lol

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Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:
I say fry that fukker and call him COOKie

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Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:
I say fry that fukker and call him COOKie

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