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Anybody kno a shop that can tune a turbo car it's a bone stock motor with an on3 on it called aed the guy I spoke with said he wouldn't do it cuz the last turbo car he dealt with was a hassle anybody have a spot in mind?

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Lol lock out the timing..get a good maf..42's..a wideband..make sure air fuel ratio is good..and drive it till it blows..some won't agree with this but it works for "some" ..although a tune is def the safest route

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just save a little bit more and get a anderson pms system so you can tune it how your car likes it turbo tunes are very picky as im finding out now and is a lot more diffucult to tune than a supercharger setupp plus turbos like a lot more timing and fuel than a supercharger so lockin the timing is not the best but hey you could always try it tho and i would use 60lb injectors just too be safe

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quote:
Originally posted by 79 cobra:
just save a little bit more and get a anderson pms system so you can tune it how your car likes it turbo tunes are very picky as im finding out now and is a lot more diffucult to tune than a supercharger setupp plus turbos like a lot more timing and fuel than a supercharger so lockin the timing is not the best but hey you could always try it tho and i would use 60lb injectors just too be safe

This is how I did my turbo Fox. Quality wideband + PMS.

It ain't perfect, but it's the easiest way to integrate a MAP sensor for tuning. The Map allows tuning for the variable turbo boost. Without it, your tuning 'blind'. Hense why stock electronics + turbo is a PITA.

Otherwise the best setups will have a MAP, VE tables, and wideband feedback. Non of that is in an A9L.....

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by 79 cobra:
just save a little bit more and get a anderson pms system so you can tune it how your car likes it turbo tunes are very picky as im finding out now and is a lot more diffucult to tune than a supercharger setupp plus turbos like a lot more timing and fuel than a supercharger so lockin the timing is not the best but hey you could always try it tho and i would use 60lb injectors just too be safe

This is how I did my turbo Fox. Quality wideband + PMS.Hmm..you wtount won't be able to tune my car? 12 psi.,hci 302,..sct chip with a9l?

It ain't perfect, but it's the easiest way to integrate a MAP sensor for tuning. The Map allows tuning for the variable turbo boost. Without it, your tuning 'blind'. Hense why stock electronics + turbo is a PITA.

Otherwise the best setups will have a MAP, VE tables, and wideband feedback. Non of that is in an A9L.....



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quote:
Originally posted by Jaejae5.0:
Lol lock out the timing..get a good maf..42's..a wideband..make sure air fuel ratio is good..and drive it till it blows..some won't agree with this but it works for "some" ..although a tune is def the safest route



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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by 79 cobra:
just save a little bit more and get a anderson pms system so you can tune it how your car likes it turbo tunes are very picky as im finding out now and is a lot more diffucult to tune than a supercharger setupp plus turbos like a lot more timing and fuel than a supercharger so lockin the timing is not the best but hey you could always try it tho and i would use 60lb injectors just too be safe

This is how I did my turbo Fox. Quality wideband + PMS.

It ain't perfect, but it's the easiest way to integrate a MAP sensor for tuning. The Map allows tuning for the variable turbo boost. Without it, your tuning 'blind'. Hense why stock electronics + turbo is a PITA.

Otherwise the best setups will have a MAP, VE tables, and wideband feedback. Non of that is in an A9L.....

This is correct.
We did our first On3 fox a month ago.
a 93 GT.....bone stock except ON3 70mm kit, and intake, with 100k on the clock.
Wasn't too bad, but is do-able.
Customer installed kit himself, then towed to us for tuning. We had to do alot of corrections to the install to get it to run right, but in the end it wasn't bad for a 100k car with intake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feoEzbBTGdk

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my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

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quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Oh it can be done this way of course.
The one above was done with SCT and I can't remember what MAF it was. It came with the kit, but was calibrated for 42's.
The easiest way is how 93pony explained, but it can be done using SCT and the factory computer.....as the vid above was done.

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quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

[Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

[Eek!]
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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

no problem Shaun...once the automatic is in (April), I'll have no problem taking you up that challenge....

it'll be fun to try it just on the footbrake alone...

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quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

no problem Shaun...once the automatic is in (April), I'll have no problem taking you up that challenge....

it'll be fun to try it just on the footbrake alone...

Ain't a challenge, just an observation. I'm done with the Turbo thing.

Hopefully you'll have more sucess than I at the track.
Damn Incons made too much bottom end. I never could launch on the brake without spinning. Never dipped into the 1.4 60's and had to use a 2.73 gear to bog the motor down or it'd spin like crazy.

What Auto/converter are you going with?

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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

no problem Shaun...once the automatic is in (April), I'll have no problem taking you up that challenge....

it'll be fun to try it just on the footbrake alone...

Ain't a challenge, just an observation. I'm done with the Turbo thing.

Hopefully you'll have more sucess than I at the track.
Damn Incons made too much bottom end. I never could launch on the brake without spinning. Never dipped into the 1.4 60's and had to use a 2.73 gear to bog the motor down or it'd spin like crazy.

What Auto/converter are you going with?

Hopefully my new Comp turbo will allow a little "lag" before it kicks in...

Going to go with AOD and a 35-3800 converter...more than likely from Freddie Brown...

I like to drive a lot or a C4 or TH400 would go in...

[ February 28, 2012, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]

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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

Wasn't meaning it as any sort of diss cuz I kno when it comes to tuning u Handel biz I was staying that cuz on this site whe talkin tunes aed usually comes up

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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

Wasn't meaning it as any sort of diss cuz I kno when it comes to tuning u Handel biz I was staying that cuz on this site whe talkin tunes aed usually comes up

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quote:
Originally posted by 8lbCoupe:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

Wasn't meaning it as any sort of diss cuz I kno when it comes to tuning u Handel biz I was staying that cuz on this site whe talkin tunes aed usually comes up
No worries.
Everybody here knows I'm a picky SOB when it comes to the cars I'll tune.
They give me shit about it from time to time. No big deal. If there were in my shoes, they might sing a different tune.

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quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

no problem Shaun...once the automatic is in (April), I'll have no problem taking you up that challenge....

it'll be fun to try it just on the footbrake alone...

Ain't a challenge, just an observation. I'm done with the Turbo thing.

Hopefully you'll have more sucess than I at the track.
Damn Incons made too much bottom end. I never could launch on the brake without spinning. Never dipped into the 1.4 60's and had to use a 2.73 gear to bog the motor down or it'd spin like crazy.

What Auto/converter are you going with?

Hopefully my new Comp turbo will allow a little "lag" before it kicks in...

Going to go with AOD and a 35-3800 converter...more than likely from Freddie Brown...

I like to drive a lot or a C4 or TH400 would go in...

C4 I blew up 3 times, TH400 3 times....
$11000 in transmission builds later, I had an insanely nice TH400 with custom valvebody, and a bunch of crazy shit...but in the end I think it was the swap to 3.08 gears that saved it.

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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by 8lbCoupe:
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
my turbo car is tuned with SCT and a BA-5000 MAF...seems to work for my tuner...

Never said it couldn't be done, didn't say I couldn't do it either, just said I WON'T do it.
Been there, done that, moved on a long time ago.

And I'm still waiting for a stock ECU street turbo mustang to run better than my 9 second SCT chip/PMS tuned TT Cobra....

You seem to be the closest judging from the Internet hype. There's a 'big dog' race this Sat at SacRaceway.

Wasn't meaning it as any sort of diss cuz I kno when it comes to tuning u Handel biz I was staying that cuz on this site whe talkin tunes aed usually comes up
No worries.
Everybody here knows I'm a picky SOB when it comes to the cars I'll tune.
They give me shit about it from time to time. No big deal. If there were in my shoes, they might sing a different tune.

I totally understand that's y I gave u a call I know when it comes to times aed is top of the line I'll be getting ma supercharged car done wit u I jus also Wana get this turbo car tuned mabey I'll try tps 93pony good lookin on the info though I appreciate it

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