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Topic: The Great Debate: Stock+Boost or H/C/I
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FRC_Kid
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ok guys heres another debate...
for stock motor sizes this time.. no strokers...
Would you rather have a H/C/I 5.0 or a stock H/C/I w/ blower or turbo???
pushrod family only this time, the modular debates will soon follow...
I'm asking power wise? in theory both setups are on healthy motors, not donut king stock bottom ends that are ready to blow...
I know a lot of people here sware they are fast with H/C/I, they prob are quick in a 1/4 mile but when compared to boost are they fast???
Would a boosted stock 5.0 out run its H/C/I brother?? on the highway..
I've seen multiple H/C/I foxes get waxed on the highway by cars it would beat in the 1/4 mile... mighty LS1..
I'm kind of spit on this in a way but my vote goes to Boost again..
we are talking about 6-10lbs of boost which will have both cars around the same power..
Whats your thoughts??????
[ September 26, 2010, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: cali95gt ]
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theturbofrdguy
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This is easy. If you are looking for the BEST setup, and money doesnt matter.
HCI + Turbo > all other setups.
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Originally posted by theturbofrdguy:
This is easy. If you are looking for the BEST setup, and money doesnt matter.
HCI + Turbo > all other setups.
We all know thas a winner right there but that wasn't an option bro.. so which would you pick and why????
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theturbofrdguy
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Would you rather have a H/C/I 5.0 or a stock H/C/I w/ blower or turbo???
That was an option lol
Im a ri-tard
[ September 26, 2010, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: theturbofrdguy ]
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Oh I see now...you also added a stock + turbo
Well the stock + turbo, will wax a HCI fox for the most part (unless its a stroker fox)especially on a freeway run.
At 10psi, with 42lb injectors, you should see high 300rwhp to low 400rwhp.
At 10psi with a vortech, you will usually see mid 300rwhp on stock HCI
Assuming you have the fuel system and a good tune for both setups
[ September 26, 2010, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: theturbofrdguy ]
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Originally posted by theturbofrdguy:
Oh I see now...you also added a stock + turbo
Well the stock + turbo, will wax a HCI fox for the most part (unless its a stroker fox)especially on a freeway run.
At 10psi, with 42lb injectors, you should see high 300rwhp to low 400rwhp.
At 10psi with a vortech, you will usually see mid 300rwhp on stock HCI
Thank you sir ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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First, I am going to assume you are comparing a stock 87-95 5.0 engine with an Strim compared to a basic but well thought out HCI combo with both options utilizing all the supporting mods like fuel, exhaust, maf, etc.
Both options have 300+ rwhp potential.
The boosted option will retain stock driveability, stock smoggability, and stock gas mileage when not under boost.
I also like popping the hood and only having to explain one major modification with a CARB# to a smog tech or chp lol
I take the boosted option for sure!
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I say H/C/I FTW
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hci+wet 150 shot wet ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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I say h/c/I turbo all the way....
[ September 26, 2010, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: 92 ssp ]
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I seen stock block with turbocharger put down 400 rwhp I mean stock heads, stock intake with just 42 injectors 255 fuel pump an a safe tune an still drive to work an race on the weekend now that's a combo....
[ September 26, 2010, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: 92 ssp ]
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Stock motor and turbo will beat most HCI cars and most SC cars IMHO.
( and this assumes the fuel system is upgraded so you can crank up the boost.)
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50DADDY
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Stock with turbos,FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by 92 ssp:
I seen stock block with turbocharger put down 400 rwhp I mean stock heads, stock intake with just 42 injectors 255 fuel pump an a safe tune an still drive to work an race on the weekend now that's a combo....
That sounds like soething nice..
and to think a complete turbo kit cost the same, if not less than, a complete Top-end kit..
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quote:
Originally posted by 92 ssp:
I seen stock block with turbocharger put down 400 rwhp I mean stock heads, stock intake with just 42 injectors 255 fuel pump an a safe tune an still drive to work an race on the weekend now that's a combo....
stock long block, stock everything to the throttle body actually (well minus the fuel) with a little junk yard turbo setup and a solid tuner, car went 11.2 on street tires...
not even that much boost either, that's my pick ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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Cobratude! There are Fox's that EAT 03 Cobra's. Calm down with that. I would say H/C/I and blower ftw.
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Do a well built H/C/I combo w/ 9:1 compression and is built to handle boost. Drive it 'til you get bored and then throw a blower on it ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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