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Topic: Turns out the new Mustang wasn't that great after all.
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Sco Cuddie
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quote: Justin Hyde — The 2011 Ford Mustang debuted last year to glowing reviews, strong sales and swaddled in American pride. But over the past several months, hundreds of owners have complained of broken Chinese-built manual transmissions — a problem Ford has yet to rectify. On one Mustang owners forum, reports of the problems, possible solutions and complaints to Ford have grown to 2,700 postings, affecting owners of both the V6 and high-powered V8 versions. Fifteen owners have lodged safety complaints with U.S. regulators, saying balky shifts and grinding gears pose a safety hazard in driving. While Ford has offered several potential solutions to owners and reached out to those who complain, many say the problems go away after a repair, then return.
While manual transmissions are an endangered species among U.S. new car buyers, about a third of all 2011 Mustang owners — nearly 22,000 vehicles — wanted to stir their own gears, according to one leaked Ford production summary. It's the buyers who've owned Mustangs for years, spend up to $35,000 for their ride and act as Ford's best evangelists for life with a pony car.
The most common complaint is hard shifts between first, second and third gears, with grinding in other gears. One Mustang owner put his transmission on video — saying the problems had persisted even after six trips to dealerships, two new transmissions, three new clutches and 42 days of the car in the shop:
I'm not exaggerating when I tell you I thought I was gonna get killed tonight. Being on the highway and losing the ability to shift with 3 lanes bearing down on me was enough to make me realize this: A lemon is one thing... An anomaly. This is not an anomaly.
Another owner told the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the transmission wouldn't shift in traffic:
My car's shift lever became stuck and wouldn't go into gear and I had to force it back to the neutral position while coming to a stop light.. The manual transmission in my 2011 Ford Mustang GT has been whining and grinding gears since the clutch was replaced due to a design flaw (only to get the exact same clutch assembly), and will be going back to the dealer March 29th to hopefully get the trans replaced (w/ the exact same trans that has all these known issues). I imagine this would happen again between now and when the car is taken to the dealer, this is my only and first brand new car, I shouldnt be having these dangerous problems, let along taking my brand new car to a dealership to keep getting repaired over and over again because the failing parts are just being replaced w/ the same parts only to fail over and over again.
Full size The MT82 transmission in question is built by Ford and supplier Getrag at a joint venture in Nanchang, China — a point that has only added to the ire of some customers. And it's not the first time owners of that transmission have reported trouble shifting; the same problems were reported by owners of Land Rover Defenders.
Since the first complaints surfaced last year, Ford has attempted to soothe angry owners and quietly offered several possible fixes, from replacing bolts in the flywheel to new clutches to even swapping out the transmission fluid. While some of those repairs have satisfied customers, several report that the problems returned — especially the balky 1st-2nd shift.
We asked Ford for a comment, and we'll update when we hear back.
http://jalopnik.com/5792482/faulty-chinese%20bug-%EF%BF%BDtransmissions-plague-new-ford-mustang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IhadvWIX6o&
And people laughed at me when I said I was buying an M3 and told me to get a Mustang instead. LOL. [ May 25, 2011, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: Sco Cuddie ]
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Notch_notch
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whatttt!
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SwEeT03Gt
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t-56 swap ftw
edit is his brake on? looks kinda up lol [ May 25, 2011, 12:23 AM: Message edited by: SWEET03GT ]
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VENOMUS PONY 5.0
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That is all bad
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TrillaJay
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Thats jus
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Not_so_Stealth
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I thought my 2011 GT shifted very smoothly and the hydraulic clutch was really light. I didn't put that many miles on it though. I wonder if this is affecting the earlier run cars more than the later cars. Mine arrived last September.
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SwEeT03Gt
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quote: Originally posted by Not_so_Stealth: I thought my 2011 GT shifted very smoothly and the hydraulic clutch was really light. I didn't put that many miles on it though. I wonder if this is affecting the earlier run cars more than the later cars. Mine arrived last September.
hey were u driving on 880 last sunday? seen a white 2012 boss looks sick i was in a white colorado i slowed down just to see it lol
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Not_so_Stealth
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quote: Originally posted by SWEET03GT: quote: Originally posted by Not_so_Stealth: I thought my 2011 GT shifted very smoothly and the hydraulic clutch was really light. I didn't put that many miles on it though. I wonder if this is affecting the earlier run cars more than the later cars. Mine arrived last September.
hey were u driving on 880 last sunday? seen a white 2012 boss looks sick i was in a white colorado i slowed down just to see it lol
Yeah that was me. I remember seeing you slow down. Thanks
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Wildfire532FB
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I hope FORD wasn't using Chinese crap. Anything made in China is complete garbage
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SwEeT03Gt
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how u like it? u messed with the adjustable shocks yet? seen a yellow one at fremont ford i want one bad
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50DADDY
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EVERY new car has bugs and recalls. Im sure theyll come up with a solution,so what.
Oh look!Heres a BMW recall! http://www.autorecalls.us/aut-04/recalls/2008/bmw/m3/87534.html ------------------------------------------ 1. NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 08V595000 Recall Date: 2008-11-14
Summary: BMW IS RECALLING 2,500 MY 2008-2009 M3 PASSENGER VEHICLES WITH AN OPTIONAL DOUBLE CLUTCH TRANSMISSION. THE PROBLEM INVOLVES THE DOUBLE CLUTCH GEARBOX. IN A SITUATION OF RAPID VEHICLE DECELERATION, THE TRANSMISSION SOFTWARE MAY PERFORM A MULTISTAGE DOWNSHIFT.
Consequences: IN THAT SITUATION, AT LOW VEHICLE SPEEDS, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE ENGINE TO STALL INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPROGRAM THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT WITH UPDATED SOFTWARE FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON DECEMBER 3, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BMW AT 1-800-831-1117.
Component Affected: POWER TRAIN:CLUTCH ASSEMBLY
Potential Cars Affected: 2,500
Notes: BMW OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC [ May 25, 2011, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]
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93ReefBlue5.0
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things like this happen all the time! the dealer fuxd up when they started throwing parts at it. they should have either kept the car and had the engineers come take a look or told the customer to keep the car until there was a repair/tsb/recall....
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NEIGHT
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Now why do you have to bring the rain to the parade?
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Not_so_Stealth
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quote: Originally posted by SWEET03GT: how u like it? u messed with the adjustable shocks yet? seen a yellow one at fremont ford i want one bad
I love it! I haven't even messed with the shocks yet. I have taken it on some roads with good curves and I'm blown away by how good it handles. Honesty I thought the GT I had with the Brembo pkg. & 3.73's was a great car,but this car picks up where that one left off.
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50DADDY
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quote: Originally posted by Not_so_Stealth: quote: Originally posted by SWEET03GT: how u like it? u messed with the adjustable shocks yet? seen a yellow one at fremont ford i want one bad
I love it! I haven't even messed with the shocks yet. I have taken it on some roads with good curves and I'm blown away by how good it handles. Honesty I thought the GT I had with the Brembo pkg. & 3.73's was a great car,but this car picks up where that one left off.
Shit!You got a Boss?! PICS!PICS!PICS!
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Adam5.0
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quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: I hope FORD wasn't using Chinese crap. Anything made in China is complete garbage
sadly just about everything is now made in china
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50DADDY
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quote: Originally posted by Adam5.0: quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: I hope FORD wasn't using Chinese crap. Anything made in China is complete garbage
sadly just about everything is now made in china
Yeah,start picking shit up around your house and look where it was manufactured.
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Mach916
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quote: Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992: Better buy than an M3 and less snooty.
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SF Coupe
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Never buy the first model year, let some other suckers be the guinea pigs.
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BULLITTMAN
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quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: Never buy the first model year, let some other suckers be the guinea pigs.
+1 exactly, never buy the first model year of a new car, guaranteed to have problems on any car...
As for those that have been living in a cave, everything is built in China and Mexico, so get use to it.... You can thank the billion dollar companies that want to save a buck with cheap labor and real estate...
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9cobrasnake9
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You can thank f'up states that make it tough and expensive to run a business...Fact of the matter is cheap labor is only part of the reason companies leave the states to manufacture.
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