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Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
So I have a 1986 mustang coupe with a 92 motor. It has hci full exhaust, long tube headers, 47lb injectors, 320lph fuel pump and a tune for all this. So sometimes when I'm driving and come to a stop light/sign the car acts like it wants to die and I have to give it a Lil gas to keep it going! It kinda sometimes did this b4 the injectors fuel pump and intake mani. But after I got all that installed it seems like it wants to die everytime I come to a stop if I don't give it some gas to keep her going!!

Any help or advise would rely help. I also have under drive pulleys ( alt, h20 pump, crank ). I'm wondering if the alt pulley has to do anything with this or maybe my tps sensor is going bad or even my idle air controll motor?!?!?
 
Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :
 
nope...probably none of that

idleing issues/surging idle are usually VAC related

i'd spend some time looking at ALL of it, not just what you can see....but the tree under the intake, the canister....ALL of it
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
So what would I be looking for??? Leaks in vac lines??
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Or what about my map sensor??
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
igntion switch on the steering column the one thAt the tumber spins the rod/shaft into the plastic switch....it needs to be ziptied tight against the contacts100% thats ur problem i bet it even wants to shut off on thefreeway also or everytime u brake hard map sensor or vac lines u see a check engine light or hear hissing

[ July 09, 2012, 12:33 AM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
I've already replaced the hole steering colum becuz I already had that problem. And no I do not hear any hissing or anything like that! Do u think it's getting to much gas with the 340lph fuel pump and the 47's and it being n/a??? It's not running Rich or anything becuz it's tuned!!
 
Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86xchpstang:
I've already replaced the hole steering colum becuz I already had that problem. And no I do not hear any hissing or anything like that! Do u think it's getting to much gas with the 340lph fuel pump and the 47's and it being n/a??? It's not running Rich or anything becuz it's tuned!!

How would it be getting too much fuel but not run rich?

Don't think too hard.. the problem is probably right under your nose
 
Posted by just_another_ 91 (Member # 9317) on :
 
possibly could be your tps voltage do you have a check engine light
 
Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :
 
your extra fuel returns, so no

i doubt TPS, but check it anyways

yes, look for brittle lines, cracked lines...you wont always hear a line, you need to physically run your fingers over every inch. the trees too, at the firewall , and under the intake
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
it could be idle air un ug it and see if it drive the same some time tapping or cleaning it could be pluged fuel filter does the psi stay steady when u drive
 
Posted by Tony Montana (Member # 8288) on :
 
I had the same problem on my 50 turned out being a bad ground wire. Check the wire on the back of your engine block and the one going to the block from your battery. Seemed funny to me easiest fix that i tryed last.
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
No check engines lights at all.
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
I dunno what the fuel pressure is while I'm driving. I don't have a fuel pressure regulator!! Um how would I check the tps voltage and what is it supposed to be at??? I'm actually thinking it might be the ground on the engine block. Becuz sometimes after I shut the car off even just for a minute it won't/doesn't start back up! And sometime I'll have to get it jumped just so it'll start!! Where is the ground wire from the chassi to the engine??
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
does your speedometer work? the VSS in the trans that the speedo cable plugs into, if not hooked up will cause it to stale when rolling up to a stop.
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
No its not hooked up to the speedo! But it is connected to the trans. I can't get it to plug in to the back of the dash. It's like it's to short or something
 
Posted by Tony Montana (Member # 8288) on :
 
The ground wire is on the back of the motor. Mine had all these same symptoms and it was the main ground wire from the battery. It would crank slow then hella fast with a jumpstart. After i changed ground cable it worked like a champ all the time.
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Well the ground wire is brand new almost on the battery. I have a battery relocation box in the trunk. So either it's not grounded good or it's the 1 on the engine block
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
not hooked up lol they are all short on everyones foxbody sounds to me like u just looking for easy fix and everything is half ass on ur car [Wink] just my two cents start connecting everything 100% u might not have so many problems
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
No everything is hooked up just fine on the car!! I don't do nor do I like nigger rigged shit. This car is my 2nd wife so I take real good car of it!! I'm not looking for a easy fix I would like to fix it for good so I don't keep having this problem. But yes the speedo cable is not hooked up, u r right on that 1. I will hook it up today and check all of the ground wires.
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
for a trunk mounted battery the best ground to use is to run a 0/1 awg cable out of the trunk floor and attach it to one of the quadshock mounting bracket bolts on the rear frame rail, make sure to use a wire brush or grinder to scuff up the area where the cable will be touching to get good contact as well.

and when running a trunk mount battery, you'll also want to add a 4awg ground wire from the engine to one of the front swaybar bracket mounting bolts because the dinky little 16awg ground wire on the wiring harness is not enough once the battery ground wire has been removed.
 
Posted by BLoWN FR500 (Member # 8766) on :
 
TPS... COULD JUST BE IT. I HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM EVEN AFTER I TUYNED MY CAR. TRY CHANGING IT AND ALSO THE (AIC) GOODLUCK
 
Posted by BLoWN FR500 (Member # 8766) on :
 
CHECK YOUR ECU AS WELL!
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Whats the AIC???
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
I do have a 4awg wire grounding under the hood. I did however notice that it's grounded from the ps pump to the shock Pertch but it doesn't look like it was sanded or wire brushed so I'll try to get bare metal to show and hook it back up
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Or did u mean iac?
 
Posted by whytethang (Member # 9715) on :
 
nigger rigged huh fag boy? will blow the molding off your doors from ANY lite! ANY day! you put a 92 motor in a 86? wiring harness also or you still set up speed density? and what cam are you running?
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Would a tab solenoid have anything to do with this becuz mine was unplugged ???
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Wow ur so negative dude. Relax!! I was just stating that theres not hella shit unplugged or shit hooked up backwards (aka nigger rigged!!) etc. no offense if ur black! I'm not racest, my lady is black! Never said I wanted to race ur either so no offense I could care less if u had the fastest mustang in the world. I'm just here to try to get some help on my issue! And btw yes I did the hole wire harness swap as well.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
I love it "my lady, best friend, my great grandpa, Im black" heard it all then to say he negative lol do you understand using that work in that just makes u look stupid
 
Posted by 86xchpstang (Member # 11800) on :
 
Anyways. I don't care how he looked at it or took it!! I ment nothing by it. So who cares. Some of u people r so sensitive, if I woulda said jerry rigging someone named jerry would of probably been all butt hurt about it!! but like I said I'm not on here for drama or high school crap! I'm just trying to get help on my issue
 
Posted by V3T HNTR (Member # 11618) on :
 
Mine was doing the same thing......IAC flipped fixed my problem...just a temporary fix while my new one comes in! Try cleaning it, I bet it will help. If not I would start looking for a vacuum leak

[patriot]
 
Posted by BLoWN FR500 (Member # 8766) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86xchpstang:
Whats the AIC???

MY BAD.....THE AIR IDLE CONTROL....
 
Posted by BLoWN FR500 (Member # 8766) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by whytethang:
nigger rigged huh fag boy? will blow the molding off your doors from ANY lite! ANY day! you put a 92 motor in a 86? wiring harness also or you still set up speed density? and what cam are you running?

YO ILL BLOW THE MOLDINGS OFF YOUR DOORS......THATS IF YOU HAVE ANY LOL
 




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