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Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

pros and cons on their Heads,Cams,Intakes.
no drama please.

[ June 12, 2006, 09:21 AM: Message edited by: two-gun kid ]

Posted by blind (Member # 3052) on :

trick flow vs edelbrock what?

valvecovers?

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

quote:
Originally posted by blind:
trick flow vs edelbrock what?

valvecovers?

LOL AWW THATS COLD. Hes talking about the stickers, which one looks best [patriot]

. i say edelbrock because it will match the lx tail lights

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

get trickflows jav! or afr's!!!!

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

Trick flow cylinder heads are far superior to Edelbrocks. This is coming from someone who has Edelbrock cylinder heads.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

This is kind of a vague question. Edelbrock and Trick Flow make a bunch of different type of heads, cams, and intakes for different applications.

Are you looking for something that is street legal? What is the motor combo going to be?

Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Trick flow cylinder heads are far superior to Edelbrocks. This is coming from someone who has Edelbrock cylinder heads.

Depends on what he's building. If it was a 347 I'd much rather have a set of Victor jr.'s on it that twisted wedges. But high ports would also be comparable to the vic's.

Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :

trickflow heads and edelbrock intakes

big cam and 1.6's

Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :

I personally like the Edelbrock line and have used them on MANY applications with great results.I am not a fan of the Trick Flow line at all and do not use the parts.AFR however is the best cylinder head IMO.......But for an affordable good powered combo that your looking for Id go with the Edelbrocks [patriot]

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.

fuck the e-cam, get a custom grind. [patriot]

Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.
fuck the e-cam, get a custom grind.

The e-cam is going to leave lots of power on the table with that setup... lots

Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.

Yes on the AFR's
No on the E cam it would be pointless to have the AFRS,there are many good cams available.You dont need a custom cam,the combo your doing is common
And I would look for an original RPM Intake vs the RPM 2

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.
Yes on the AFR's
No on the E cam it would be pointless to have the AFRS,there are many good cams available.You dont need a custom cam,the combo your doing is common
And I would look for an original RPM Intake vs the RPM 2

what intake do you have on your engine ?

[ June 13, 2006, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: two-gun kid ]

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.

The TFS top end kit is good for a mild 306 or 331. It's affordable, everything is matched, smog legal and you will make good power.

There are probably better setups but the Trick Flow stuff works well [patriot]

The e-cam would not be matched very well to your second combo. I would look into another cam if you decide to go that route.

Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.
Yes on the AFR's
No on the E cam it would be pointless to have the AFRS,there are many good cams available.You dont need a custom cam,the combo your doing is common
And I would look for an original RPM Intake vs the RPM 2
what intake do you have on your engine ?

I have an original Edelbrock RPM bolted on my MOTOR

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
the combos would either be a 306 or a 331 put mainly which would be better for a 306 since ill end up getting this.
i was thinking the tfs top end kit
or
afr 165 heads, e cam, a rpm 2 intake.
Yes on the AFR's
No on the E cam it would be pointless to have the AFRS,there are many good cams available.You dont need a custom cam,the combo your doing is common
And I would look for an original RPM Intake vs the RPM 2
what intake do you have on your engine ?
I have an original Edelbrock RPM bolted on my MOTOR

what else do you have bolted to your ENGINE ?

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

i guess, performer heads, performer intake, and undecided on the cam.

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

THIS IS TWO TONE++

edelbrock eeverythang...EVEN ROLLER ROCKERS AND EXAUST..FROM TOP TO BOTTOM

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

i might get a edelbrock performer intake to replace my tfs street heat.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

Ok what do you guys think about this combo,
302 bottom end
Performer intake
Performer heads
What would be a good cam for that too end? I was thinking about the edelbrock cam that is in the performer package.
I know Haulinassmaro will approve. And then throw some N20 at it and would I be able to hit low-mid 12's on drag radial's?
I need to convert to mass air and get my sub frame connectors and 373 gears I want to hit low 12's NA then have the nitrous as a backup incase things get close.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
Ok what do you guys think about this combo,
302 bottom end
Performer intake
Performer heads
What would be a good cam for that too end? I was thinking about the edelbrock cam that is in the performer package.
I know Haulinassmaro will approve. And then throw some N20 at it and would I be able to hit low-mid 12's on drag radial's?
I need to convert to mass air and get my sub frame connectors and 373 gears I want to hit low 12's NA then have the nitrous as a backup incase things get close.

Sounds like a good combo. Are you rebuilding your motor at the same time? If so I would build a 347 and not a 302. The minimal extra cost will be well worth the result [Wink]

Don't forget to budget for an upgraded fuel system, roller rockers, etc.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
Ok what do you guys think about this combo,
302 bottom end
Performer intake
Performer heads
What would be a good cam for that too end? I was thinking about the edelbrock cam that is in the performer package.
I know Haulinassmaro will approve. And then throw some N20 at it and would I be able to hit low-mid 12's on drag radial's?
I need to convert to mass air and get my sub frame connectors and 373 gears I want to hit low 12's NA then have the nitrous as a backup incase things get close.
Sounds like a good combo. Are you rebuilding your motor at the same time? If so I would build a 347 and not a 302. The minimal extra cost will be well worth the result

Don't forget to budget for an upgraded fuel system, roller rockers, etc.

i want to see how fast i can go with the stock 302 and im not going to do a 347 with the stock block.
for fuel im prob gonna get some 36lb injectors and maf, i already have a 255lph pump and aeromotive fpr.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

i searched around and couldnt find anyone running mid 12's on stock 302 bottom ends, only high 12's(12.8+) with the trick flow pieces and the edelbrock pieces are tried and true setup of parts.
and haulinassmaro has great success with it and ive found people running mid - low 12's on stock 302's so i dont know what i want to do right now.

if i go tfs i would buy the track heat package that they sell which includes everything i would need to install those parts for a litte over $2k

if i go edelbrock it would be performer rpm intake,F cam or something similar, performer rpm heads. and i would still have to buy all the gaskets, new bolts and misc things like that extra.

my friend who used to run all tfs parts on the top end of a 306 ran strong when he had it, i never found out what it ran at the track but would beat quite a few cars with more power than hhim, but he sold the car and bought a 68 chevelle.

and also i could be different and go trick flow becuase everyone i know now uses edelbrock and only 1 of my friends uses trick flow parts.

Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :

hci + pa = you'll dip into the 11's no prob if you can hook

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

Edelbrock products are very well made. What sold me on the Vic Jr's I just bought was that every bolt hole is helicoiled, the valve springs are good up to .650 lift, and they are affordable. IMO trickflow is at the bottom of the NAMEBRAND food chain. Im not bashing trickflow, hell I have a couple of trickflow parts on my car.

Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :

What about a Holley SysteMax II package? They advertise 350hp out of your 302 with it. Add the NOS Big Shot to it and be happy?

Posted by Curt (Member # 6254) on :

What about AFR 165s or 185's, MM&FF just put some ported 165's on their project Capri and it added 60HP ovet ported 7TE heads, I would go for the 185's if you plan on using a PA or going to a 347

I have no clue on the Cam, ask an engine builder

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

ok if i went with edelbrock it would be the performer intake, performer heads(#60379), the cam has yet to be picked.

for trick flow it would be the track heat kit.

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

I'd stay away from the Edelbrock heads. Go with the Trick Flow's or AFR's.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I'd stay away from the Edelbrock heads. Go with the Trick Flow's or AFR's.

why is that?

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

Flow far better.

Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :

too much speculation, just get ANY pair and get your car running. [Razz]

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:
too much speculation, just get ANY pair and get your car running.

my car does run, i just dont have it.

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

I would only choose one... afr

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

i might just go with edelbrock becuase i wont have to worry about coming up with carb stickers for cops and i wont have to worry about smog

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
i might just go with edelbrock becuase i wont have to worry about coming up with carb stickers for cops and i wont have to worry about smog

Trick Flow heads are smog legal w/ a carb number.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
i might just go with edelbrock becuase i wont have to worry about coming up with carb stickers for cops and i wont have to worry about smog
Trick Flow heads are smog legal w/ a carb number.

I don't think they're intake have a carn number and they're cam doesn't .

I don't know I don't want to buy it and I could have gotten the edelbrock parts and gone faster or visa versa.

Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :

Plenty of cars run faster than high 12's with a NA stock bottom end.

check it out: http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=518936&pp=35

Another vote for TRICKFLOW here [patriot]

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
i might just go with edelbrock becuase i wont have to worry about coming up with carb stickers for cops and i wont have to worry about smog
Trick Flow heads are smog legal w/ a carb number.
I don't think they're intake have a carn number and they're cam doesn't .

I don't know I don't want to buy it and I could have gotten the edelbrock parts and gone faster or visa versa.

The street heat intake is 50 state legal as are the Twisted Wedge heads. I'm not sure about the cam but you should pass with a stage 1 cam. If you are worried about having a CARB number for the cam just tell the smog guy it's a E cam.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
i might just go with edelbrock becuase i wont have to worry about coming up with carb stickers for cops and i wont have to worry about smog
Trick Flow heads are smog legal w/ a carb number.
I don't think they're intake have a carn number and they're cam doesn't .

I don't know I don't want to buy it and I could have gotten the edelbrock parts and gone faster or visa versa.
The street heat intake is 50 state legal as are the Twisted Wedge heads. I'm not sure about the cam but you should pass with a stage 1 cam. If you are worried about having a CARB number for the cam just tell the smog guy it's a E cam.

im not worried about the cam, just about the intake and heads, does trick flow sell replacement carb stickers for the street heat intake?
i bought my street heat used and it didnt come with the carb number.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

I dunno if they sell replacement sticker. However you can go to this site and get the CARB number

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php

That should be enough for smog purposes.

Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
Ok what do you guys think about this combo,
302 bottom end
Performer intake
Performer heads
What would be a good cam for that too end? I was thinking about the edelbrock cam that is in the performer package.
I know Haulinassmaro will approve. And then throw some N20 at it and would I be able to hit low-mid 12's on drag radial's?
I need to convert to mass air and get my sub frame connectors and 373 gears I want to hit low 12's NA then have the nitrous as a backup incase things get close.
Sounds like a good combo. Are you rebuilding your motor at the same time? If so I would build a 347 and not a 302. The minimal extra cost will be well worth the result

Don't forget to budget for an upgraded fuel system, roller rockers, etc.
i want to see how fast i can go with the stock 302 and im not going to do a 347 with the stock block.
for fuel im prob gonna get some 36lb injectors and maf, i already have a 255lph pump and aeromotive fpr.

Whats wrong with a 347 in a stock block? [Confused]

With the combo's you are talking about you couldn't possibly make enough power to hurt it.

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

There is nothing wrong with using a stock block for a N/A 347. My first choice in heads would be AFR, Edelbrock, then trickflow.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

who said i was staying n/a ?
i just dont want to blow the damn thing up.
if i stay with the stock block id do a 306,stroker wise im going with a aftermarket block, if im going to dish out a couple grand on a engine, i would do it right the first time and still have piece of mind that i would make more power out of it.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
who said i was staying n/a ?
i just dont want to blow the damn thing up.
if i stay with the stock block id do a 306,stroker wise im going with a aftermarket block, if im going to dish out a couple grand on a engine, i would do it right the first time and still have piece of mind that i would make more power out of it.

If you plan on going with a power adder then I would suggest stepping up to 42lb injectors (instead of the 36's mentioned in an earlier post). Also, I would go with an inline pump in addition to the 255 in tank.

A 331 w/ a blower is a good combo IMO. A stock block should be able to handle 450RWHP. I would use a girdle. Going with an aftermaket block is good but it will set you back around 2g's just for the block.

Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
who said i was staying n/a ?
i just dont want to blow the damn thing up.
if i stay with the stock block id do a 306,stroker wise im going with a aftermarket block, if im going to dish out a couple grand on a engine, i would do it right the first time and still have piece of mind that i would make more power out of it.

Um, I don't care to go back and check 4 pages of posts, but I don't recall you mentioning any power adder in any of your combos that you listed. Therefore you said you were going N/A [Wink]

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

but yes im going to have a power adder. i might step up my compression a bit.

Posted by RiddlerGT (Member # 113) on :

I think you need to sell your car and go buy a honda!

Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :

lol

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
I think you need to sell your car and go buy a honda!

then i would have to spend like 10x more money to make it just as fast.

Posted by RiddlerGT (Member # 113) on :

well you dont have any money anyways so why does it matter...

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
but yes im going to have a power adder. i might step up my compression a bit.

If you are going to run a power adder you need to keep you compression down not step it up.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle347:

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
but yes im going to have a power adder. i might step up my compression a bit.
If you are going to run a power adder you need to keep you compression down not step it up.

no depends on the power adder, most you drop the compression, others you raise. [patriot]

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
well you dont have any money anyways so why does it matter...

wtf is your problem?

[ July 26, 2006, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: two-gun kid ]

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
well you dont have any money anyways so why does it matter...
wtf is your problem?

a Dick perhaps? [Confused]

or you posting too much [Razz]

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

TTT

Posted by hockeyguy713 (Member # 5354) on :

Exactly what answesr are you looking for? It seems that whenever someone gives you an answer or an opinion, you have your mind made up already or you say you want to go a different direction anyways. [Confused]

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

Put a trickflow head on one side, and a Edelbrock on the other.

Posted by roneeron (Member # 3245) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle347:
Put a trickflow head on one side, and a Edelbrock on the other.

LOL

Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :

1.6s on the edelbrock, 1.7s on the trickflow [Whoo Whooooo!]

Posted by JBeezy53 (Member # 3960) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 166 Merlot:
1.6s on the edelbrock, 1.7s on the trickflow

No, 1.7s on the edelbrock and 1.6s on the trickflow. Edelbrock will need all the help it can get to keep up with the Trickflow. [Wink]

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JBeezy53:

quote:
Originally posted by 166 Merlot:
1.6s on the edelbrock, 1.7s on the trickflow
No, 1.7s on the edelbrock and 1.6s on the trickflow. Edelbrock will need all the help it can get to keep up with the Trickflow.

The trickflow CNC heads are the only ones that have anything on Edelbrock. Alot of people will contest, but I think the Trickflow CNC's even have AFR beat.

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