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Originally posted by autumnstang97:
what am i gonna need exactly to get my gt at 500 hp...as of now my block is stock...

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Put PI heads on your 97, if you don't have them already, and get a Kenne Bell 1.7 and you will have very close to 500HP at the flywheel.

[ November 15, 2005, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
Lots of boost
 

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Posted by BLOWN 4.6 (Member # 4789) on :
 
putting p.i heads on a 97 gt and adding a blower is not a good idea. the compression is gonna up to 10: something and thats not good for blower.the engine will probably blow up..
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
i''m looking for 500+ at the wheels....my plan is to definetly go with the KB 1.7L...now what if i throw on PI heads and intake...or a bullit intake with low conpression pistons...and a cobra krank...and a KB 14 PSI pully on the 1.7...will that work?...along with a 255lph in tank fuel pump..does the KB come with 42lbs/hr injectors?...hopefully it does...and with all that will my 97 push 500rwhp?...i'm also goin to have 3"73...C%L CAI, and i want a powerfull...strong clutch...mine right now is still perfect....whats a good clutch for my 97 even without the blower and then with the blower?...i'm goin to APex for the tuning and stufff and for the clutch installation....and if they do internals then also the crank and pistons...and the blower will be done here at home...so let me know if all these things will work out or if u suggest something else in addition to what i have listed or if u want to include something...thanks guys...
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
yeah with a built engine and blower you shouldnt have much troubles.
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
This is what I would do since you want to replace the pistons....

#1-Get a built CHP 5.1L Stroker short block
#2-Get some nice heads
#3-Dump the C&L and get a Lightining, SCT, OR Pro-M MAF
#4-Slap on the 1.7L Kenne Bell
#4-Get a new Kevlar clutch
#5-Get a nice tune

This combo should give you a RELIABLE 500RWHP and show be drivable like a normal car. We have this EXACT combo going into a car.
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
isnt there anywasy i can do i using my stock 4.6L block...i can probably stroke it to a 302 and go from there...i want to feel the power and drag it occasionally at the track once in a while...but overall i want to be able to drive it around 4-5 days a week and be able to eat chevys all day cuz at work i'm the only Ford guy...and everyone else is a chevy or ricer...so i want to suprise them o ne day when they notice my stang in the lot...thyey're gonna notice it aint a joke when u look at a mustang...with a fully modified sc motor...they'll kall me daddy when i go to work...lol...ok sorry that was a little story...back to reality...so is there anyway i can achievee 500rwhp with my stock block...PI heads...ect...or how much does an 03 cobra motor cost...i have the catolog but it didint say a price...its its reasonable with the computer and wiring harness...shit i might as well toss that in the engine bay and slap on a 2.2L KB...cams....full bassani exhasut...ect...
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
The problem is your stock block with the PI heads will have a high compression ratio, which is NOT optimum for high-levels of boost. 500RWHP is alot to get out of a 4.6 and will not be cheap to do right. If you want to do it cheap just do a PI swap and get like a 200 Shot of Nitrous and you still WILL NOT get 500RWHP...

You can keep your stock block but you still have to buy the kit and have your block machined. Give HCI or CDT a call about the machining costs and they should be able to give you an idea of what a kit for a 4.6 would costs to make it capable of 500RWHP. Everyone wants 500RWHP BUT are you also going to beef up your suspension, chasis, clutch and brakes to support the engine? If you are going to dump all the money into the engine with out making the other necessary upgrades you are wasting your money. Do your brakes, chasis, and suspension first.. do the engine LAST.
 

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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 
This may sound like stupid question, but why is it that people put lower compression pistons in a blown motor? It doesn't make any sense to me to lower the compression and then boost it? What is the point and why is this nessecary?
 

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Posted by 92coupe (Member # 1957) on :
 

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Originally posted by WILDTHANG:
This may sound like stupid question, but why is it that people put lower compression pistons in a blown motor? It doesn't make any sense to me to lower the compression and then boost it? What is the point and why is this nessecary?

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Originally posted by WILDTHANG:
This may sound like stupid question, but why is it that people put lower compression pistons in a blown motor? It doesn't make any sense to me to lower the compression and then boost it? What is the point and why is this nessecary?

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
has enough power on tap to make your balls tingle.

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RMFAO

Yea this motor/block definately has the capability of handling 500hp w/ ease. I say go for the 03 cobra motor

[ November 16, 2005, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 

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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 

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Originally posted by 92coupe:

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Originally posted by WILDTHANG:
This may sound like stupid question, but why is it that people put lower compression pistons in a blown motor? It doesn't make any sense to me to lower the compression and then boost it? What is the point and why is this nessecary?

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thats not always the case, for a reliable daily driven capable car you need to lower compression for high boost. straight drag cars use high compression with o-ringed block and heads with wire lock head gaskets. but like i said you need a very strong bottom end.

Justin

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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:
Heres another way to get 500rwhp. Built short block, Patriot stage II heads, Custom or Comp cams, plus all the standard boltons , exhaust and that should get you around 310rwhp or so. Then put a 200shot to that. But like said before, there are alot of other things to upgrade to be able to support that. Maf, injectors, tune fuel pump etc... the list just goes on and on. You will spend alot of money to get the car to the 500rwhp and to be able to support that HP. It will cost you more then what your car is worth.

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Thats what I did... and I somewhat kick myself for it, spent too much money, Im over 20K deep in mods (some of that because I got screwed on parts, or something broke etc) It just isn't cost effective to mod the 4.6 GTs and try to get LOTS of HP out of them without blowing your cash for several years.
 

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Posted by 88gt (Member # 579) on :
 
So you want to more than double your horsepower that you currently have in your 97? Are you doing that because you want to get a certain time/trap speed at the track, or because you want that magical dyno sheet with the big 500 on it?

This might help people give you some better advice.
 

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Posted by tonster (Member # 6093) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88gt:
So you want to more than double your horsepower that you currently have in your 97? Are you doing that because you want to get a certain time/trap speed at the track, or because you want that magical dyno sheet with the big 500 on it?

This might help people give you some better advice.

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Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:
#1-Get a built CHP 5.1L Stroker short block

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UH OH!! Where's 93pony.
 

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Posted by rico91stang (Member # 2389) on :
 
Oh and I would go with what works. Forged pistons, rods stock crank. Stock heads. Blower grind cams. Stock intake. Novi 2000. 17 Lbs of boost, tuned on pump should be MUCH over 500rwhp.
 

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Posted by SkunkWerks -Fabrication (Member # 4980) on :
 

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Originally posted by rico91stang:

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Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:
#1-Get a built CHP 5.1L Stroker short block

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UH OH!! Where's 93pony.

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LOL
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
wht about this....rged crank...forged pistons...stroked to a 302 5.0L...block is stock....shaved heads on my non i heads...port matched...polished...cams...custom tuned chip...70mm throttle...80mm mass air...1.7L B blower @14Psi alongwith the boost a pump and all...wht kinda power do u think i'll be making there?...and a live posi rear end...9" rear end...3:73 gears...mm front and rear coilover kit...upper lower control arms....bilstein shocks and struts...ect...3.5 aluminum drive shaft...with all that what kind of power and traction will i get...just throw out random numbers that are preety close...
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Ok, many things look wrong with that set-up.

First things first. The stroker kit is an OK, idea, but if you want to run the KB, I would go a different route on the top half of the motor. It looks like you want to build some crazy motor, to get a wild HP number. But parts listed would be all wrong for that.

I would go with some heads from Fox Lake probably the stage two's with a good set of cams matched to my application, go with the KB 2.2L Blowzilla run it at 9psi. intercooled, instead of the 1.7L running at 14psi. I would go with a Lightning 100mm MAF, with a Accufab 75MM TB, also throw in the KB Boost a Pump, and Boost A Spark. There would also be a few other goodies throw in. I would run a FAST system on it, no crappy programmers.

But in the eyes of money, you would be looking at 12-15K when done. Nice if money grew on trees huh?
 

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Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
ok how about a forged crank stroked to 302...PI heads...1.7KB@14psi,,,and posi 3:73 rear end...42lb injectors...ect...will thatwork?
 

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Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
i see that all you are wanting to do is impress the chevy's and ricers where u work..or whatever..

do the PI Swap..

HEads/cams/intake (port the heads if possible)
4.10's in the rear
get a JLT RAI, 75MM TB, Plenum, u/d pullies
short shifter..

and believe me..youll be neck nd neck with those maro's

i know from experience..
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
Fuck it dude, sell your 15 second monster and invest in something worth fixing up, don't make the same mistake alot of us have ::cough::like me::cough::with my 98GT::cough::

Since you are so frickin sprung on getting a KB blower, then go get a 03/04 Cobra, do the KB OR even Whipple swap with supporting mods, run 18-22psi and call it the fucking day!!! That way you can update your Myspace.com pics with an actuall car that will run 12's/11's and live true to the topic of "Good day to run 12's" title that is currently underneath your buddies rice car and your 15 second GT in your picture section!!!

[ November 22, 2005, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: 03SVTPower ]
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
Fuck it dude, sell your 15 second monster and invest in something worth fixing up, don't make the same mistake alot of us have ::cough::like me::cough::with my 98GT::cough::

Since you are so frickin sprung on getting a KB blower, then go get a 03/04 Cobra, do the KB OR even Whipple swap with supporting mods, run 18-22psi and call it the fucking day!!! That way you can update your Myspace.com pics with an actuall car that will run 12's/11's and live true to the topic of "Good day to run 12's" title that is currently underneath your buddies rice car and your 15 second GT in your picture section!!!

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
That way you can update your Myspace.com pics with an actuall car that will run 12's/11's and live true to the topic of "Good day to run 12's" title that is currently underneath your buddies rice car and your 15 second GT in your picture section!!!

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
Fuck it dude, sell your 15 second monster and invest in something worth fixing up, don't make the same mistake alot of us have ::cough::like me::cough::with my 98GT::cough::

Since you are so frickin sprung on getting a KB blower, then go get a 03/04 Cobra, do the KB OR even Whipple swap with supporting mods, run 18-22psi and call it the fucking day!!! That way you can update your Myspace.com pics with an actuall car that will run 12's/11's and live true to the topic of "Good day to run 12's" title that is currently underneath your buddies rice car and your 15 second GT in your picture section!!!

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Posted by MINGRYGT (Member # 2439) on :
 
all you need to do to make 500 rw is...

1) your car
2) a garage that is air tight
3) A hose


next attach the hose to your exhaust pipe and put the other end in your car. Then get in the car with the windows rolled up and the doors shut (it must be air tight to work). Just sit in the car and wait for the horse power to start coming. Sit in there as long as it takes no matter how dizzy you get. I swear to god it works, I sat in mine so long that I have over 550rw. Ask all the big horsepower guys.
 

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Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
That way you can update your Myspace.com pics with an actuall car that will run 12's/11's and live true to the topic of "Good day to run 12's" title that is currently underneath your buddies rice car and your 15 second GT in your picture section!!!

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good God!! thats ownage if i have ever seen it!!

ROFL!
 

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Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
that reminds me..

i havent really seen this guy post any recent topics
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by Red00GT:
that reminds me..

i havent really seen this guy post any recent topics

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Do we know its a guy though? Autumn is a girls name?

Where is their myspace by the way i wanna see the picture haha
 

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Posted by Red00GT (Member # 5653) on :
 
its a guy..

Autumn (hence the color of the GT...its the same color as Jon's aka 1sicGT)

and his myspace was in his SIG..but has been misteriously removed...

hes indian i believe...ask Raj..he might know him
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
I think you 2 scared him off.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by Red00GT:
its a guy..

Autumn (hence the color of the GT...its the same color as Jon's aka 1sicGT)

and his myspace was in his SIG..but has been misteriously removed...

hes indian i believe...ask Raj..he might know him

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