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Posted by dawssvt (Member # 8099) on :
 
I am not an active member on this site, but I was referred to it after a man from California ripped me off on SVTPerformance.com - another Mustang board. I am a very active member on SVTPerformance with right around 1,000 posts and (33) trader feedback.

On September 25th, I send $566 to Josh Courtway ("64VALVES" on SVTPerformance) for these stock 03-04 Cobra parts parts he was selling... Eaton with pulley, throttle body and plenum, injectors, mass air flow sensor, and heat exchanger. He and I exchanged several Private Messages in which we came up with an agreement on how much he would sell me the parts for.

After I paid him, he sent me a private message saying that he would ship out the parts by Friday, that would be 09-28-07. On 10-02-07 he sent me another message saying that he had been super busy and the parts would be shipped tomorrow or the next day. This was the last time I have heard from him. I have sent him 6-7 messages asking if the parts had been shipped. He didn't respond to any of them. On 10-12-07 I filed a complaint with Paypal telling them that I thought he was ripping me off. Paypal didn't find that there was enough evidence to start a case against him, so they closed the dispute immediately. I have not heard from him since any of this happened.

If any of you guys know Josh or have any other ideas on how I can get my money back, I would appreciate it. He posts quite a bit on here, so I thought someone may know him. Here is the info I have on him...

Josh Courtway
2244 CHASE DR
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA 95670
916-708-5201

Paypal ID: lcourtway@comcast.net (registered under Lauren Courtway, his wife maybe?)

Here's his myspace:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=93735196

Link to his For Sale thread on SVTPerformance...

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420952

[ December 19, 2007, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: dawssvt ]
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
OH NOES!!!!!!
 
Posted by EPIKMACH (Member # 7481) on :
 
UH OH.....This dont look too good.....I know Josh,as do alot of people on this board. I wish i could help, but I dont want to get involved....I guarantee u that by tomorrow though, u will get few people who dont think too highly of him chiming in on this post...Good luck....

[ December 19, 2007, 03:47 AM: Message edited by: EPIKMACH ]
 
Posted by JBeezy53 (Member # 3960) on :
 
That address is a couple minutes from my house, literally across the street from the highschool I went to. Some other people have complained about him, maybe he'll chime in.
 
Posted by dawssvt (Member # 8099) on :
 
I hope he will make this right. It's not easy to lose over $500 [Mad]
 
Posted by EPIKMACH (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dawssvt:
I hope he will make this right. It's not easy to lose over $500 [Mad]

I hear you bro....U deserve to get what u paid 4....Thats why i dont do business like that over these boards unless I can see my parts in person...Josh is a cool dude too, & a freind of mine, but I didnt know shit like this was goin on??? Hard times I guess??? No excuses for burning someone for that type of cash though, EVER.... Once again, good luck...

[ December 19, 2007, 03:52 AM: Message edited by: EPIKMACH ]
 
Posted by FSTRDNU (Member # 12) on :
 
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?
 
Posted by BOTIH8R*pbr* (Member # 7295) on :
 
see post in gen talk
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?

SO PEOPLE WHO BUY THINS SEE WHAT THE SELLER IS LIKE......

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?

To help future buyers.
[Roll Eyes]

[ December 19, 2007, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]
 
Posted by STANGSALLY76 (Member # 5342) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

what kind of fucked up response is that,
you do what you gotta do to get your money
or your shit im sure you would do the same.
 
Posted by STANGSALLY76 (Member # 5342) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

what kinda bullshit response is that, dude is
doing what it takes to get his money or his
shit .
 
Posted by STANGSALLY76 (Member # 5342) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

what kinda bullshit response is that, dude is
doing what it takes to get his money or his
shit.
 
Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STANGSALLY76:
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

what kinda bullshit response is that, dude is
doing what it takes to get his money or his
shit.

So mad Joey had to say it 3 times!!!!
 
Posted by totalkaos92 (Member # 5750) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

seems like this guy likes typing stupid shit [Roll Eyes] to bad he cant rap or drift! [Big Grin]

I CAN [dance] [burnout] LOL
 
Posted by totalkaos92 (Member # 5750) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BOTIH8R*pbr*:
see post in gen talk

YOU GET REPLIES FOR POSTING THINGS LIKE THIS [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by r1 (Member # 1144) on :
 
I am a little lost the original complaint was over a 30$ pony and now it has escalated to another person over 500+. WEll it goes to show like someone said if you won't care about your reputatiotn over 30$ what would you care about.Another reason why the "I'll ship after payment" always freaks me out. 0.02$. I do really think it is cool that the mods said they would help the 30 buck guy out. Very cool Ca Fords I might just have to come out to one of these events and buy a sticker or something
 
Posted by 65DOHCStang (Member # 8101) on :
 
I got ripped off by this guy too, but only for $50. Obviously a scammer.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?p=7443261#post7443261

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=946234
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
was going to say something but dont need to get into a fued with people on here over someone else's mistakes

edit: no comment

[ December 21, 2007, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: BlowN67 ]
 
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
lol...

if this was about anything else. DONNA (hidnos) woulda pointed out that the original poster was an idiot and to take this to gen chat....

lets flood the board with bullshit!!! YAAAAA!!!!!
 
Posted by r1 (Member # 1144) on :
 
[Confused] Is he calling the guy who got ripped an idiot? or the duetsc who is wripping an idiot?anhow ttt for a noble cause "if this was about anything else. DONNA (hidnos) woulda pointed out that the original poster was an idiot and to take this to gen chat...."

[ December 22, 2007, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: r1 ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
lets flood the board with bullshit!!!

Ya, getting ripped off is bullshit

[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
lets flood the board with bullshit!!!

Ya, getting ripped off is bullshit

[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

Hey everyone!!! i have an idea!!

lets post Joshua Courtway's full name, address, home and cell #'s, and the social security #'s to his kids and his wife....

and then!!! lets post it in every single forum on www.cafords.com!!!

hidnos (DON aka. DONNA) = homosexual/pro gay-marrige/faggot

and im done.....

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ROLLING PONY (Member # 7946) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STANGSALLY76:
quote:
Originally posted by FSTRDNU:
How did this discussion wind up in the classified section?
If you want help, call the police.
What are people on here supposed to do, go to his house and kick his ass?

what kinda bullshit response is that, dude is
doing what it takes to get his money or his
shit.

I TOTALY AGRESS WITH STANGSALLY. I mean cmon, If that did happen to any of us. WE WOULD BE FU$#ING PISSED, MAD, WANT TO KICK THAT PERSONS ASS & SO ON... But The man is just trying to find him & asking for help. CMON. THE COPS CAN DO ANY FOR THIS KIND OF CRIME. This is petty shi%! To them.. So If i recall a person is a friend of his, & SHOULD REALY TALK TO "JOSH" Maybe their had be a very good explanation.. FUCK THATS F#%# UP Shit... -( [Mad]

Hey whomever started this thread. REMEMBER. "what goes around COMES AROUND" Just hope it will be worst. NOT COOL, NOT COOL. Specially $500. That amount of cash is hard to save & work for. I hope that it does bites him in the BUTT... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by r1 (Member # 1144) on :
 
I am always intriqued by the tough guys online who are homophobic and think any good dead is us being their"mommies". Any of these losers ever hear of what is right is right and if you dont stick up for it we are in a world of shit. I applaud CaFords on the solidarity and to the guys who are mad this is here quite reading it and go back to your internet cobra you probably dont even own.
 
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by r1:
I am always intriqued by the tough guys online who are homophobic and think any good dead is us being their"mommies". Any of these losers ever hear of what is right is right and if you dont stick up for it we are in a world of shit. I applaud CaFords on the solidarity and to the guys who are mad this is here quite reading it and go back to your internet cobra you probably dont even own.

lol. ur a funny one! im pretty much over all this shit....its worthless. im not gonna post up about this issue anymore. its not my battle, i ME (SCOTT) have nothing to prove!

NOW!! if you must excuse me....ill be going back to my "internet cobra" that requires "internet money" and "internet gas" to drive.

 -

now YOU can go to your "internet R1" or to your haggered-ass "fiddy" that swangs!!

tough guy....loser....lol... FAG!

[Wink]

[ December 23, 2007, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
 
Posted by r1 (Member # 1144) on :
 
I guess I should go tell my internet wife or my internet kids about my new sexual prowess. way to prove me wrong with your cool cars,. boy I wish I had one lol
 
Posted by EPIKMACH (Member # 7481) on :
 
When are they gonna lock these threads & throw them down in street racing with the rest of the shit talking??? Its not even being effective in handling the situation, all its doing is stirring up a bunch of BULLSHIT & u got a bunch of folks that dont ever post coming out of the woodworks putting in there 2 cents like it matters or like its helping the dude get his money back....DAWSSVT, the thread starter hasnt even posted back since dec.19th...At this point, its none of anybodys business except him & BOTIH8R what happens...Let them handle the situation & SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY....

ATTN....9COBRA8,or whoever else is in charge, close this shit already!!!!! It aint helping anyone by having this same thread be at the top of 3 different forums everyday....The point has already been made over & over again....DUDE GOT JACKED FOR HIS MONEY, & NOBODY IS GONNA BUY PARTS FROM BOTIH8R ANYMORE....CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!

[ December 23, 2007, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: EPIKMACH ]
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
now the real question is if the scammer will return the money back to the ones he scammed?
 
Posted by EPIKMACH (Member # 7481) on :
 
He said they were working something out the last time I talked to him, but thats really none of our business at this point....Let them handle it....
 
Posted by r1 (Member # 1144) on :
 
edited. Nevermind.

[ December 23, 2007, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: r1 ]
 
Posted by dawssvt (Member # 8099) on :
 
Josh said he would send me a money order at the 1st of the year. He has yet to send me anything. Any ideas on what I should do?
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
call the police where he's located at and report fraud. i think this loser has been given enough time to resolve these issues w/ more than one person already to no avail.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dawssvt:
Josh said he would send me a money order at the 1st of the year. He has yet to send me anything. Any ideas on what I should do?

Unless you plan to drive to this guys house and whoop his ass, I think you should chalk it up as a loss. He is never going to pay you, and since their are atleast 3 threads of people he has ripped off this is beating a dead horse. Nobody on this site will do business with him ever in life. I am sure everyone on Cafords appreciates you letting us know what a piece of shit this guy is so noone else gets ripped off.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
quote:
Originally posted by dawssvt:
Josh said he would send me a money order at the 1st of the year. He has yet to send me anything. Any ideas on what I should do?

Unless you plan to drive to this guys house and whoop his ass, I think you should chalk it up as a loss. He is never going to pay you, and since their are atleast 3 threads of people he has ripped off this is beating a dead horse. Nobody on this site will do business with him ever in life. I am sure everyone on Cafords appreciates you letting us know what a piece of shit this guy is so noone else gets ripped off.
No need to go all neanderthal, there are laws that protect people in this situation.
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Have you ever thought about only dealing with people in person and cash? Shit gets lost and damaged in the mail, might be unlikely but it does.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
quote:
Originally posted by dawssvt:
Josh said he would send me a money order at the 1st of the year. He has yet to send me anything. Any ideas on what I should do?

Unless you plan to drive to this guys house and whoop his ass, I think you should chalk it up as a loss. He is never going to pay you, and since their are atleast 3 threads of people he has ripped off this is beating a dead horse. Nobody on this site will do business with him ever in life. I am sure everyone on Cafords appreciates you letting us know what a piece of shit this guy is so noone else gets ripped off.
No need to go all neanderthal, there are laws that protect people in this situation.
LOL! I highly doubt he will get his money back using the legal process. even if he sues him and wins that is still not a guarantee he will see a dime. On the other hand is he whoops his ass he atleast can get some satisfaction LOL [patriot]
 
Posted by dawssvt (Member # 8099) on :
 
Just wanted to make it aware that I have yet to see any money back from Josh.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dawssvt:
Just wanted to make it aware that I have yet to see any money back from Josh.

I think it is about time you sack up and do something about this yourself, I think it is fucked up you got ripped off but your best bet is to do "something" about it besides tell people on a message board he has not paid you. Nobody on this board is gonna get your money back for you so It is up to YOU to take care of it.
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
im sure u can contact the authorities in his area and report some sort of fraud against him. u may not get anything from it but u never know.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
im sure u can contact the authorities in his area and report some sort of fraud against him. u may not get anything from it but u never know.

[patriot]
 
Posted by 302oons (Member # 8105) on :
 
why would u hand over $600 before you even got the parts??? me personally, if you got his address and all that..........goto his house and confront the him about it
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 302oons:
why would u hand over $600 before you even got the parts??? me personally, if you got his address and all that..........goto his house and confront the him about it

u missed the part about the parts being shipped. unless you do cod, which most sellers wont do, u have to prepay obviously and go on your trust in the seller in delivering the product as stated.
 
Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win you are still retarded.


Pick up your parts in person!
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by phildog:
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win you are still retarded.


Pick up your parts in person!

[Roll Eyes]

You've never bought something out of state?
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
Its obvious this thread isn't doing anyone any good. Just lock it, let it die and let lessons be learned. If nothing was done by now its not going to change by dragging this back up. Honestly, I hate seeing people get ripped off but this isn't going to fix it. I got taken on a motor a while back, made my post about it but after pages of BS and numerous PM's saying it would be taken car of I got NOTHING. Every single thread I've seen where this happens people argue and in the long run nothing gets solved. Everyone has their own take on Josh now, let the thread die.
 
Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
you can always call him and tell him look you havent paid me your not going to pay me i need something from it so can we at least meet up and knuckle up. one on one its only fair and he will probably say no but its the right thing to do.
 
Posted by gtowned (Member # 8156) on :
 
why is there 2 threads about this.in the other one it says a while back he would be banned if he didnt handle it.it appears it hasnt been handled so it would be a pretty fair assumption to say he was banned.
 




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