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Thanks for posting the info!

BTW can you anyone on here answer some class specific questions for me or anyone specific per association to contact regarding rules on a future project?

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
Woo!!! We'll be out there trying to get it done haha.

Everyone should check out some of these events. Can't beat the nastiest small tire heads up monsters in the state gettin down!! Freak show 8.5 is a blast and my friends are tearing up TT5 !






 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
I will be at the July race J.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
How strict are they in regards to what interior pieces are necessary and are things like aftermarket door panels allowed to make room for the door bars on the cage?

I may have a few more ?'s for you guys that are into the 8.5 racing but maybe i should start a separate thread so i don't clutter this up

I figure i'll get some good useful info here as it seems that there are plenty of Mustangs that run in that class.....

BTW what is the average ET/MPH for these cars as i'm interested in building something but want to be sure it will be competitive of course

Thanks all!

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Sorry DP

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 

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I will be at the July race J.

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
How strict are they in regards to what interior pieces are necessary and are things like aftermarket door panels allowed to make room for the door bars on the cage?

I may have a few more ?'s for you guys that are into the 8.5 racing but maybe i should start a separate thread so i don't clutter this up

I figure i'll get some good useful info here as it seems that there are plenty of Mustangs that run in that class.....

BTW what is the average ET/MPH for these cars as i'm interested in building something but want to be sure it will be competitive of course

Thanks all!

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
How strict are they in regards to what interior pieces are necessary and are things like aftermarket door panels allowed to make room for the door bars on the cage?

I may have a few more ?'s for you guys that are into the 8.5 racing but maybe i should start a separate thread so i don't clutter this up

I figure i'll get some good useful info here as it seems that there are plenty of Mustangs that run in that class.....

BTW what is the average ET/MPH for these cars as i'm interested in building something but want to be sure it will be competitive of course

Thanks all!

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Not strict on the door panel stuff at all. factory appearing is nice but aluminum (painted usually) are all over when we go. This class went crazy on the ET/MPH this season. The 4 second barrier was broken 3 times. Avg times now are between 5.30@135mph to 4.99@152 mph....I would definitely go head to toe on the WCHRA 8.5 rules section. You can build some nasty combos at a light weight when done right. What are you building? I tried to respond to your PM but your box was full. The car I crew on is less than 3250 raceweight w/ 88mm reducer on a 330" motor. look at your weight breaks!

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Man thanks for the info Notch1320 was nice enough to pm me the contact info of the guys that run PSCA, WCHRA, & NMCA and i plan to give them a call to run things by them as there are lots of specifics that we don't really have in the few import races locally!

Sorry about the pm box veing full it should now be cleared if you'd like to continue chatting that way.

I have more ?'s regarding the rear suspension set-up and if it will be legal as i know almost anything goes in regards to how the rear axle is located and also ?'s about weight penalities etc if say for example the turbo size is larger than 88mm

I'd kinda like to keep the build on the d/l for now as i'm still neck deep with my Evo for this year but i have begun the tear-down and will make a build thread to share
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
Don't worry about cluttering up this thread. I think myself and jayl are the only two who give a shit about this stuff on here. The guys I sent you are the ones to ask specifics on rules.

Come join us in July at Bako..... You can probably get all your answers face to face with Tim and the other racers.

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Don't worry about cluttering up this thread. I think myself and jayl are the only two who give a shit about this stuff on here. The guys I sent you are the ones to ask specifics on rules.

Come join us in July at Bako..... You can probably get all your answers face to face with Tim and the other racers.

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I def would like to make it out to an event just to see what i'm getting myself into but this 8.5 tire class seems like it's a good way to have some good competition and fun/close racing while still being able to stay within a reasonable budget.

Once i'm done racing the Evo and have either sold or de-modded it i will get more involved in the new build and i will be on the phone with those guys you listed very soon.

Is there any pros/cons when comparing WCHRA/PSCA/NMCA and how they are run as i'd like to stay away from needless BS i just want to race, have some fun, and learn as much as i can

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
I have never done anything with the PSCA so I can't touch on that. I will say the NMCA races I have attended, there were a few issues I had with them, but in my opinion not too bad of a deal to race at. Tim and the WCHRA is 100% all about the racers. Tim has bent over backwards to make everything fair and put on a good race for everyone involved even if it means taking no profit money in return. I myself have been racing with the NHRA for quite a while now and was not happy with numerous things that go one there. I'm making some big changes to my program, and will be racing in the WCHRA in the future. I would suggest attending an event from each organization and feel things out. I am doing just that for the remainder of this season while my car is apart and I will be assisting a few different cars in 8.5. I hope to see you out there soon with something different from the norm!

Be sure to study the rules for the class you are looking at and compare them between each sanction. Find the combo that works with minimal changes to carry over from one to another and look at the weights!

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
WCHRA is the place to be! Wont find a better group of racers and support from the management anywhere!

Come check it out to get a feel and you can check out our car we run. Showing up to a race is a good way to see what direction you want to head with things. Everyone is cool about their stuff. There isn't one "secret" to let out that would let anyone dominate haha. Shit is very competitive though! Come on down in July if you can. Should be the fastest times yet on 8.5s!
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
I am also interested in building something for the 8.5 if you guys can help me with info also that would be great .. Thanks in advance guys
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 

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I am also interested in building something for the 8.5 if you guys can help me with info also that would be great .. Thanks in advance guys

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
OK i'm gunna do my best to make it down to the July 13th race as my schedule looks free and the wifey said it's fine.

I think it will help decide which class to race in.

What are your thoughts on Outlaw 8.5 vs. Limited 10.5?

I have a feeling Outlaw 10.5 would be out of my reach but i'd like to see what i'm up against

Guess i should hang on to my MT's then but i do have 4 total so if anyone needs a set lmk

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 

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I am also interested in building something for the 8.5 if you guys can help me with info also that would be great .. Thanks in advance guys

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I am also interested in building something for the 8.5 if you guys can help me with info also that would be great .. Thanks in advance guys

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It's a fun class for sure! Very challenging on that little tire! You guys should all try to make it out and talk to the director (Tim) and the racers. Our pits are always open! and full of beer and shit talking fun! haha

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Ill definitely try to come by and say hi and grab a cold one
But yea I've been wanting to get in so badly lately ..so me and a friend have started with a coupe to build already installed a cage and custom subframes and plan to add more soon and have also just got a heart for this car so supporting parts will be next but I need to know the ins and outs so I won't have any issues with rules after the car is done.. Plan to have it done the first week of oct
 

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
This is the best study guide there is!

http://www.westcoasthotrod.com/rules/out.html

Read up and down and you see what you can and can't do. Lots of ways to make cool combos with a decent weight.

Limited 10.5 is another fun one. More restricted but better entry level racing for sure. 28" tire as well.
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 

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This is the best study guide there is!

http://www.westcoasthotrod.com/rules/out.html

Read up and down and you see what you can and can't do. Lots of ways to make cool combos with a decent weight.

Limited 10.5 is another fun one. More restricted but better entry level racing for sure. 28" tire as well.

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Originally posted by jayl:
This is the best study guide there is!

http://www.westcoasthotrod.com/rules/out.html

Read up and down and you see what you can and can't do. Lots of ways to make cool combos with a decent weight.

Limited 10.5 is another fun one. More restricted but better entry level racing for sure. 28" tire as well.

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I must have read that about 100 times already lol along with the PSCA and NMCA rules which are quite similar.

So enlighten me as to what happens if say a single turbo (88mm) SB car w/ driver weighs in under the required weight 3300lbs?

Do they require you to run some sort of ballast weight or penalize you another way?

If weight is added are you allowed to place that where you like in the car
 

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
yep NHRA legal ballast (secured to chassis/car) we have pucks that get drilled through with a bolt wherever we need to add weight. there are weight bars you can, a few options out there!
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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yep NHRA legal ballast (secured to chassis/car) we have pucks that get drilled through with a bolt wherever we need to add weight. there are weight bars you can, a few options out there!

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Thank you sir

You happen to know what the avg weight of the cars are sans any ballast?

I guess what i'm asking is if they are close to making weight and just need a little to comply or are they featherweights with very strategic ballast plaecement?
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
Some cars have a bunch of ballast! The nice thing is, you can add it where you like.... or where the car likes it. Be sure to check the NHRA rules on ballast as well as far an mounting and any specifics with it. I can e-mail you a PDF of the latest NHRA rule book if either of you need it.
 

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 

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yep NHRA legal ballast (secured to chassis/car) we have pucks that get drilled through with a bolt wherever we need to add weight. there are weight bars you can, a few options out there!

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Thank you sir

You happen to know what the avg weight of the cars are sans any ballast?

I guess what i'm asking is if they are close to making weight and just need a little to comply or are they featherweights with very strategic ballast plaecement?

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yep NHRA legal ballast (secured to chassis/car) we have pucks that get drilled through with a bolt wherever we need to add weight. there are weight bars you can, a few options out there!

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Thank you sir

You happen to know what the avg weight of the cars are sans any ballast?

I guess what i'm asking is if they are close to making weight and just need a little to comply or are they featherweights with very strategic ballast plaecement?

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Our SN95 single turbo SBF mustang could easily hit 2900lbs with driver/fuel if we wanted! My freinds nitrous SBC mustang comes in at 2500lbs w/ driver easily! Crazy what you can do!

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DAMN! So we're talking 700lbs of ballast for them to make weight???
 

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
Well a small block nitrous car on the MT could potentially be 2750 if I remember right! All depends on the combo. Not everyone races at 3400 because they have a bad dude combo. We are at 3200ish because under 360inch, 88mm reducer (98mm turbo), non intercooled, etc.....just gotta read the rules and build what works for you! Lots of trial and error though. We raced 2 years in Limited 10.5 just getting a handle on things.
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
I might need a ballast as my cars been on a serious diet
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Alright getting ready for this what's a good time to get out there so I can shoot the s*** and pick people's brains without getting in the way?
 

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Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
as long as things to go plan.....we'll be there early on Friday to get situated for the TNT that night. We should be onsite by 3 or 4ish. Most guys will come early and setup the trailers since they leave them overnight. Look in the 8.5 section of the pits and we have a white square body F250 and a silver mustang with bandaids on the side lol
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
I won't be there until late Friday night, as I'm just coming to watch and help where needed. The racers and pits are open, so walking around will allow you to see the cars up close and shoot the shit. Have someone direct you to Tim Rigby so you can introduce yourself and ask any specific class questions you might have to the man himself.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
So is it better to just come down on Fri for TNT to allow more time to check things out and ask questions

Or would Sat be better for racing action?

I just don't want to get in the way during race day

I will try and look for you guys and introduce myself so one of you can maybe point me to "THE MAN" but to make things easier just keep an eye out for an asian guy wearing an FFTEC MOTORSPORTS t-shirt
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
I would say Saturday would be best. Racing will carry on into the night since its a one day event. I will keep an eye out for you!
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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I would say Saturday would be best. Racing will carry on into the night since its a one day event. I will keep an eye out for you!

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Thanks my name is Pat!

See ya Sat i'll be sure to bring along some adult type beverages for those not racing
 

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