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Posted by notch yours (Member # 8831) on :
 
so i ran the notch yesterday at sac just to see if it really had power since i just got the car about a month n a half ago. well the power was there but the traction wasn't, even when we lowered the tire pressure. i definitly need some slicks. i was kinda disapointed at that. i was also disapointed that i only got to run the car twice from 12:30 when i got there until my second and last run at about 4:30 just cuz they had about a million import cars(much love to the imports though, my other car is an integra) but they should've just did the illiminations for the rwd cars first since there was only a hand full. and plus, cars kept on breakin' down. well heres some pics. thanks to jsjbrothers.com

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it only ran 15.1 and 15.3 just cuz it kept peelin' out 1st, 2nd,and 3rd gear I NEEEEEEEED SLICKS

[ March 10, 2009, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: notch yours ]
 
Posted by WickedStang (Member # 7692) on :
 
Nice looking notch! Well congrats on getting it down the 1320 for the first time. Iam sure with more practice u can get ur ET down.
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
all the imports were there because the had a race there on sunday an try to leave the line with less rpm an get drag radils the have a stiffer side wall than slicks
 
Posted by notch yours (Member # 8831) on :
 
i actually tried to take off at a low rpm, but it would actually break traction everytime it would hit about 4 to 5 RPM,
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
what tires are on there now
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
You don't need slicks you need suspension!
 
Posted by J24I (Member # 2598) on :
 
suspension FTW...
 
Posted by need-a-cage (Member # 5415) on :
 
What was your speed?
 
Posted by 93 CHP (Member # 8240) on :
 
yup suspension for sure and pics nice also
 
Posted by notch yours (Member # 8831) on :
 
the notch actually has traction bars
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
Don't matter. As low as you are and that small of a side wall you will find it really hard to get a good launch and traction. If you don't plan on racing much more then for fun I wouldn't get slicks just get some drag radials, that way you don't break anything and you can put them on at the house and drive to the track.
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
slicks on a 15 second car???? ok....

try a drag radial first possibly...or get something better than "traction" bars....

[ March 10, 2009, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: jordan_0806 ]
 
Posted by notch yours (Member # 8831) on :
 
well the notch has headers, cams, slp exaust,mac h pipe, edlebrock upper n lower intake manifold,bbk 70mm throttlebody, cold air intake and a few other things. i just picked up this notch about a month n half ago n im still new to the mustang scene so i'm still learnig a lot about this car.
 
Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 2973) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by notch yours:
well the notch has headers, cams, slp exaust,mac h pipe, edlebrock upper n lower intake manifold,bbk 70mm throttlebody, cold air intake and a few other things. i just picked up this notch about a month n half ago n im still new to the mustang scene so i'm still learnig a lot about this car.

wow should be a lot better than a 15 second timeslip! probably should do a quick tune up, drag radials, & more practice fosho!
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
Also check your timing and make sure its around 12 degrees
 
Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 
Nice looking car.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
don't listen to all these knuckleheads telling you that you need suspension.

You need slicks/DRs and some seat time.

You should shave over a second off your times with the above...

best of luck
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
yea, throw some gears and street slicks and shoot for mid 13's
[patriot]
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
quote:
well the notch has headers, cams, slp exaust,mac h pipe, edlebrock upper n lower intake manifold,bbk 70mm throttlebody, cold air intake and a few other things. i just picked up this notch about a month n half ago n im still new to the mustang scene so i'm still learnig a lot about this car.
Car has cams huh!! How many does a pushrod have LOL!! J/K man sounds like it has a good bit done to it.


quote:
Also check your timing and make sure its around 12 degrees

Go as high as you can and back it off when it detonates. You should get to around 16 to 18 degrees before you hear anything on pump gas.


quote:
don't listen to all these knuckleheads telling you that you need suspension.

You need slicks/DRs and some seat time.

You should shave over a second off your times with the above...

best of luck

Really knuckleheads huh?? Do you race competively or just run on play days? Do you know anything about a car and how it reacts on the track? Guess not with that comment.

I agree he needs lots and lots of seat time. That's the only way to get better.
 
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by darkhorse04:



quote:
Also check your timing and make sure its around 12 degrees

Go as high as you can and back it off when it detonates. You should get to around 16 to 18 degrees before you hear anything on pump gas.



[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
Wanna make power you can't be afaid to take it to the edge! I have ran my car at 16 degrees with 87 in it and no problems what so ever.
 
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on :
 
distributor must have been a tooth off.ive never heard of a fox getting that much timing on pump gas
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
Nope!! Seen some up to 18 degrees. Guess you guys up here don't push your cars.
 
Posted by Lemonade (Member # 3692) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by darkhorse04:
Nope!! Seen some up to 18 degrees. Guess you guys up here don't push your cars.

Where are you buying your gas? What octane?
Thanks,

Lems
 
Posted by darkhorse04 (Member # 8780) on :
 
Chevron 91 and in my 87 with 127,000 miles running 16 degrees of timing running on Chevron 87 daily.
 
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on :
 
I run 17 degrees on my motor, but its ~8.5:1 compression if not a tad lower lol...waiting for boost >.<
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gtowned.:
distributor must have been a tooth off.ive never heard of a fox getting that much timing on pump gas

I put 16 degrees into my fox on pump gas with the Blower...it can be done...
 
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on :
 
with meth inj???
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
don't listen to all these knuckleheads telling you that you need suspension.

You need slicks/DRs and some seat time.

You should shave over a second off your times with the above...

best of luck

and then it would be a 14 sec car with SLICKS!

are you kidding me?

[ March 12, 2009, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: jordan_0806 ]
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gtowned.:
with meth inj???

nope...kit is not on yet
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
the only real way to set your timming is buy checking the total at around 3000. You need at least 34 on a stock headed car NA. I am pretty sure the fox body computer adds 16 degrees from your base set up. If it were my coupe I would add gears and drag radials. Those tires are going to suck for hooking up. I bet your 60 foot was 2.2 or higher.

[ March 12, 2009, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 1HaTCheD5LiTEr (Member # 8269) on :
 
DELETE

[ March 14, 2009, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: 1HaTCheD5LiTEr ]
 
Posted by 1HaTCheD5LiTEr (Member # 8269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by darkhorse04:
Chevron 91 and in my 87 with 127,000 miles running 16 degrees of timing running on Chevron 87 daily.

LOL i was runnin about 17-18 when i bought my car
ran it on 87 no problem
of course i didn't set it that high...bought it like that [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by BRUCE LEE (Member # 8946) on :
 
whats your trap speed by the way?
 
Posted by BlownMach1 (Member # 5400) on :
 
lol u guys turned this thread into a i am better than u thread...this is the real truth-

u just got ur car dude. u gotta learn how to drive it. u dont need slicks or even drag radials yet. my first time at the track i ran a 15.1 also with a mild bolt on 94vert. got lots of seat time and then the times got better. thats all. learn your car and if u want to keep ur car from blowing up then i would not jack up the timing. dont listen to that. if u dont know alot about tuning cars in or even workin on them i really suggest u dont mess with it. just learn to drive ur car and u will improve.

next once u get down to low 14s with that setup then get gears and nitto drs. mt or bfg drs are still too much for that set up. u will bog and hurt ur times more thn help them. i ran a 14.0 on a stock 5.0 lx hatch with only mod a off road h pipe and k&n filter! its about driving skills!!!
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
/\ /\ good advice but you will be on the very slow road for along time. Why waste all the lessons learned by others? If you want to continue to drag race your mustang(if you care if you get fatser) might as well get the gears and some drag radials if you can afford it. Everbody else out there your racing already has them. You have to go through a learning curve with them also.
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
Ive drivin in that car before if its the one from fresno. It runs good and pulls just as hard as mine and i pull a 13.8. It sounds nice as hell though. Dont let them burst your bubble, all you can do it get better from there!
 
Posted by rollin5ive0 (Member # 8592) on :
 
hey if you make it to the track and and you make it home with some passes under the belt thats a good day to me but as i found out lots of people out there wanna rain on your parade anyone whos totally negative bout your runs tell em screw off cause they aint gettin paid to race or walkin on water, the ones to listen to are those who congradulate you for goin then give a little advice or constructive critisism -see ya at the track
 
Posted by rollin5ive0 (Member # 8592) on :
 
oh i test drove that car too when it was for sale and i thought it was dope (and like i said i dont get paid to race) but it sounds like if you get some dr's and a coupla more runs down the track you'll be stoked with what that car can do good luck
 
Posted by 85gtcarbro8du-up (Member # 5169) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
don't listen to all these knuckleheads telling you that you need suspension.

You need slicks/DRs and some seat time.

You should shave over a second off your times with the above...

best of luck

listen to this fuggin guy right heeeere. [sopranos voice]
you do need slicks/dr's and some seat time. but lemme tell you from experience, please! dont just put money into gettin the car to hella hook. i did that and wish i would have done some susp first. as a result of gettin the car to hook without susp my floorboards ripped out which is a common 5.0 fox thing. and even after i put subframe connectors on; where my back seat and trans tunnel meet-the metal started ripping open like a can of tuna... and last but definitely not least; my lower control arms are ripping away from the body of the car. [torque box fix needed asap] lesson learned by experience. trust me

[ April 22, 2009, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: 85gtcarbro8du-up ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by darkhorse04:
Really knuckleheads huh?? Do you race competively or just run on play days? Do you know anything about a car and how it reacts on the track? Guess not with that comment.

I agree he needs lots and lots of seat time. That's the only way to get better.

BTW, the dude you were quoting ran 13.0 in a 93 Notch with stock longblock, mild bolt on's, gears, & slicks...Pretty damn good if you ask me....

[ April 23, 2009, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 




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