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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
So here it is:
87 LX - bone STOCK motor, Off road exhaust, 4.10's, race crank pully, and weld draglites with DR's and skinnies

Weight reduction: AC delete and ditched the sway bar

The car went 13.24 @ 103.3 with the Drew Mod in the driver seat and a smoked clutch. My best time was 13.5, It just goes to show how much more track time I need. I'm still in the rookie stage to say the least. However, I was finally able to perfect my burnouts - 2nd gear and rev the crap out of it!
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Your clutch is poop!

But your car is FAAAAAAAST!
 

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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
Have you ordered the new clutch yet?
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
I'll get the pictures up soon, guys. Just been busy here at work.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jackpine 5.0:
Have you ordered the new clutch yet?

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It's in the mail.

You owe me some money foo!
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 



 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Fantastic numbers gentlemen!

What were the 60fts?

103.3 is flying. I assume it still has SD?

My car picked up about 0.1 with the combination of a CAI kit and a shortbelt bypassing the PS, on top of what you already listed...

Icing the intake will help too.

I never tried an AFPR, but that should get you another 5rwhp if you lean it out by 1-2psi.

Best of Luck!

[ September 15, 2006, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Fantastic numbers gentlemen!

What were the 60fts?

103.3 is flying. I assume it still has SD?

My car picked up about 0.1 with the combination of a CAI kit and a shortbelt bypassing the PS, on top of what you already listed...

Icing the intake will help too.

I never tried an AFPR, but that should get you another 5rwhp if you lean it out by 1-2psi.

Best of Luck!

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I believe those numbers are with a weak 1.9xx 60 ft. They just put in a new Clutch. He needs to put some miles on it and they will be back out to the track with some ice and luck. I think an AFPR and maybe a short belt might be around, maybe?

On EDIT: Yes still SD. and STOCK suspension. Only adjust ment is some cutting wheels to the springs to adjust height.

[ September 15, 2006, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' ]
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
which DR's?
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
Micky T's
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Those MT should hold a 6250 launch with a stock motor. I think 1.7X will be the norm once you guys get everything dialed in.

Keep us updated.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't know about the limiter dumps..... But I am sure with a good clutch and some technique polishing 1.7's are very much possible.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Ya the limiter dumps are pretty intimidating. It took me a while too. I noticed the limiter dumps always netted a better 60ft for me than 5K or 5.5K dumps. It just comes down to how much you are willing to sacrifice. The higher you launch, the greater the probability of breaking parts.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
My guess is this car is going to get in the 12's leaving the line under 4k. But only time will tell. A nice low 1.7 60ft and better weather, maybe a good cool down and I think this car has it in the bag with the P/S still hooked up

Those super high launches are even harder on stuff when you have stock uppers, lowers, springs, shocks/stuts, motor and tranny mount, etc etc. Things tend to move around a little.
 

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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
I think with the new clutch and Drew's driving , it will be in the 12's no problem. I'll need some time behind the wheel though to be able to pull it off.
 

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Posted by StockMotorHero (Member # 6171) on :
 
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by StockMotorHero:
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.

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Wonderboy...lol

Cory's car is just a freak. Is there any known 5.0 with this few mods that has gone this fast? If it does dip into 12's with really no changes, that will be insane!

FWIW, that is the first time I have driven someone elses car in a long, long time. I was also a week out of knee surgery for my ACL replacement and muniscus repair, (had to loosen the knee brace up to push in on the peddle! )
 

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Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 

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Originally posted by StockMotorHero:
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.

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Wonderboy...lol

Cory's car is just a freak. Is there any known 5.0 with this few mods that has gone this fast? If it does dip into 12's with really no changes, that will be insane!

FWIW, that is the first time I have driven someone elses car in a long, long time. I was also a week out of knee surgery for my ACL replacement and muniscus repair, (had to loosen the knee brace up to push in on the peddle! )

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by StockMotorHero:
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.

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Wonderboy...lol

Cory's car is just a freak. Is there any known 5.0 with this few mods that has gone this fast? If it does dip into 12's with really no changes, that will be insane!

FWIW, that is the first time I have driven someone elses car in a long, long time. I was also a week out of knee surgery for my ACL replacement and muniscus repair, (had to loosen the knee brace up to push in on the peddle! )

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So you finally had the surgery huh.. So how'd it go, how does your knee feel?

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Feels like dead weight at this point. Its more of a crutch than a leg
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by StockMotorHero:
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.

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Wonderboy...lol

Cory's car is just a freak. Is there any known 5.0 with this few mods that has gone this fast? If it does dip into 12's with really no changes, that will be insane!

FWIW, that is the first time I have driven someone elses car in a long, long time. I was also a week out of knee surgery for my ACL replacement and muniscus repair, (had to loosen the knee brace up to push in on the peddle! )

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So you finally had the surgery huh.. So how'd it go, how does your knee feel?

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Feels like dead weight at this point. Its more of a crutch than a leg

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Originally posted by Jackpine 5.0:
Yeah, it's pretty sad when a guy with a bum peg leg can out drive me. Oh well, I guess I just need a little (actually a crapload) more practice.

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by StockMotorHero:
Nice car!! The mph is certainly there, with a 1.80 you'll run a 12. I don't see a problem with the MT radials, Drew "wonderboy" shifter, and some decent D.A. Best of luck to you guys.

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Wonderboy...lol

Cory's car is just a freak. Is there any known 5.0 with this few mods that has gone this fast? If it does dip into 12's with really no changes, that will be insane!

FWIW, that is the first time I have driven someone elses car in a long, long time. I was also a week out of knee surgery for my ACL replacement and muniscus repair, (had to loosen the knee brace up to push in on the peddle! )

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Originally posted by Notch1320:
Good to see more guys killing themselves to get the most out of a "stock" stang instead of throwing all kinds of high dollar parts at their car to make up for a lack of driving skill. Put that thing on the limiter, and leave your foot on the floor... I sure hope you guys are running a drive shaft loop... and axles would be a must!!!

Luke87GT has really done his homework to get where he is with his car. I would recommend using what he has learned, and keep thrashing at it until a 12 shows up. In addition to Luke87GT's list of mods... I would recommend trying the following parts:

Long Tube Headers
X Pipe
Running 4 Quarts of Engine Oil
Aluminum Driveshaft
4 Cyl. Front Springs (cut to desired rake)
Rear Drag Springs w/Passenger Side Air Bag
MSD 6AL

If you run slicks... DON'T run tubes. This cuts down on rotating mass.

A couple additional things that work well for consistency for launch are an MSD 2 step rev limiter, and a line lock. With the 2 step, you can set a launch RPM, and an engine RPM limit with interchangable pills. Tie the launch RPM side in with the line lock. When the line lock button is depressed, the 2 step will only allow that set RPM to be reached. Once released, it goes to the higher RPM. With our car, we launch at 6500, and set the high side to 6900 or 7000. A shift light is another helpful component. These parts won't make any more power... but will help the driver become more consistent, by not having to worry about controling RPM with his foot, and lets you concentrate on the tree.

Most of these parts are cheap , and always on this board for sale. I have a few of these items off my Stocker that I am looking to get rid of. Let me know if you guys are interested.


I look forward to seeing you guys at the track next season. My NHRA Stocker 88 Stang is almost back together... Shooting for the record at 11.55 @ 115.

Best of luck to you guys!!!

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Nice post for you guys trying to get the most outta your race cars

Sounds like he knows a thing or two about consistant drag racin
 

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Posted by GRIGGYJAMESJIMBO (Member # 6319) on :
 
I don't know but that LX hauls ass. Congrats and keep cutting them E.T's TTT
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
The car doesn't need a rev limiter dump. It just needs a good 1.7 60 ft. and some good shifting the rest of the way and it will be there as it sits. With Cooler air now it will be getting easier. Another thing we havn't even tryed to cool the intake down with Ice yet. Something as simple as that can produce great numbers. I know on my car when I ice down my intake I jump from 114MPH to 116MPH. Not saying this car will gain 2 mph off of a colder air charge but it sure isn't gona hurt.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
The car doesn't need a rev limiter dump. It just needs a good 1.7 60 ft. and some good shifting the rest of the way and it will be there as it sits. With Cooler air now it will be getting easier. Another thing we havn't even tryed to cool the intake down with Ice yet. Something as simple as that can produce great numbers. I know on my car when I ice down my intake I jump from 114MPH to 116MPH. Not saying this car will gain 2 mph off of a colder air charge but it sure isn't gona hurt.

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I bet he meant to run the number on a more consistant basis rather than a 1-2 time deal.

But kudos to you guys as i'm sure it's just a matter of time as we all know both you and Drew can drive and i'm sure Jackpine will be soon up to par
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
The car doesn't need a rev limiter dump. It just needs a good 1.7 60 ft. and some good shifting the rest of the way and it will be there as it sits. With Cooler air now it will be getting easier. Another thing we havn't even tryed to cool the intake down with Ice yet. Something as simple as that can produce great numbers. I know on my car when I ice down my intake I jump from 114MPH to 116MPH. Not saying this car will gain 2 mph off of a colder air charge but it sure isn't gona hurt.

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I bet he meant to run the number on a more consistant basis rather than a 1-2 time deal.

But kudos to you guys as i'm sure it's just a matter of time as we all know both you and Drew can drive and i'm sure Jackpine will be soon up to par

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I can't drive all I know how to do is get good 60's! hahaha But as for Cory(Jackpine5.0) He has only been racing for a short short while now. He just needs more seat time and He will learn his car in NO time at all! And YES this car is a Freak!!
 

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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
It's nice to hear all the positive reinforcement about my car. Also to let everyone know, I think i have only made 30 passes or so down the track - like I said before, all I need is more track time. If I can get a good 60 foot I will definately be on my way. I was cutting 1.8's before the smoked clutch and with the new one we'll have to see what happens. Also, I blew 5th gear in my tranny and picked up a donner tranny out of an x-chp car. It just doesn't feel right and I think I'm going to rebuild mine. I'm not sure how long it will be before I get back out to the track, but hopefully it will be soon and with improved times. Thanks everybody for the encouragement. It just shows how good of an investment the mustang was. By the way - DREW, thanks for selling the freak to me!
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
With the way the car is running now... 12.9's are there with nothing more than a harder launch, and a good driver.

Running drag radials as opposed to a small slick may be a bit harder to get a low 1.7 (or better)short time though. Although... I have never ran a car with DR's...

Don't stop at 12.9's though...with less than a few hundred dollars in used parts there is no reason "this particular car" can't pull a 12.7...easily!!!

[ September 21, 2006, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Notch1320 ]
 

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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
All I know is that Frank is cutting 1.6's on DR's, I guess I could use a lesson from him.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jackpine 5.0:
All I know is that Frank is cutting 1.6's on DR's, I guess I could use a lesson from him.

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':

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Originally posted by Jackpine 5.0:
All I know is that Frank is cutting 1.6's on DR's, I guess I could use a lesson from him.

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It's all in the Booty, just got to feel it out! I have alot of booty so I can a lot!!!

So far to date myBest 60ft. on the DR's is a 1.63 at Mustang Madness. These are the 17" Mickey T's on some Budniks. As for suspension in the Front I have Strange adjustable struts with Coil over. In rear Stock springs cut, Stock uppers and Hotchkiks(sp) lowers.

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Cut stock springs.

Damn Frank, you just told everyone why my car has always 60'd so good!
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
Opps sorry I have like the Springs from that company with the bag in the spring that helps prevent twisting and moves this and that. to get you good launches!
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
very cool guys!

I am anxious to hear the future progress.

Do you guys know how much the car weighs going down the track?

From what I remember, my car would never 60ft better than 1.80 with anything under a 5K launch.
My best rev limiter dump was a 1.69

Then again, that was with a Bullitt suspension. My limiting factor wasn't wheel spin, but rather not enough power. .

Unfortunately, I never got to weigh mine.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
It was either 3050 or 3150. I can't remember Cory could tell you and then Cory and drew weight about 160lb's soaking wet.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Cory's car weights 3250 going down the track with him or I in it.
 

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Posted by Speedkills93 (Member # 6755) on :
 
frank thanks for one of drews secrets!!
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Speedkills93:
frank thanks for one of drews secrets!!

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I don't know what your talking about
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


[ September 23, 2006, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 

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Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
You may be able to dip into the 12's with a 5K range launch... but with this car, being a low HP ride... I don't see it happening to easily. As mentioned before... Currently the short times are in the 1.9 range. Frank has hit 1.6's with his car... but he has the power to pull that off. Although... this car has shown a high trap speed for a " stock" motored car... the launch playes a HUGE roll. I would strongly recommend axles, and a loop... but wouldn't be affraid of launching the car as if it were a rental. Low 12.9's are there in "this" car without a doubt!!!


I look forward to hearing the results on the next outing... Best of luck to you guys!!!

[ September 26, 2006, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: Notch1320 ]
 

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Posted by Speedkills93 (Member # 6755) on :
 
why drew gets good 60fts.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Speedkills93:
why drew gets good 60fts.

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Yeah I don't know what your talking about. I didn't say anything......
 

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Posted by Jackpine 5.0 (Member # 6349) on :
 
I forgot to mention in the original post that I do have axles. When I got the 4.10's I had 31 splines installed. I also know that I can get a better 60 foot than a 1.9. My first time at the track with the DR's and 4.10's I cut a 1.8. After that it was all downhill with the clutch. I'm trying to get into the 12's without having to launch off the rev limiter. I'm pretty sure the car has it in it, but only time and more runs will tell.
 

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