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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
any news on this race yet or if it is going to happen. Last year I heard didn't turn out that well(car was broke couldn't go) but the year before was pretty cool. I am not sure if is allowed to be discussed on the site
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
Crap...what side would I race on
 

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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Crap...what side would I race on

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none..ur not allowed.. ...ya i hope this goes on again..
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Crap...what side would I race on

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LOL

When i saw the title that's the first thing i thought about....hmmm too bad for Team SOLO
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
well you could run yourself in a best 2 out of 3.
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
It's like when you're kids playing football at the schoolyard and you QB for both teams...

Count me in this time around.

[ May 25, 2005, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: twstd5o ]
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
It's like when you're kids playing football at the schoolyard and you QB for both teams...

Count me in this time around.

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Permanent QB

When is this event supposed to take place...i'd love to get back to the tracka again sometime this year
 

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Posted by Red C5 (Member # 1561) on :
 
if you go to

www.norcal-ls1.com

there is a section you can read about it. I don't think you have to register to see it.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
So if I race on both sides and make it to the finals against myself...I guess I have to decide if I want to win as a Chevy or a Ford. What if I forfeited on both sides?
 

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Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Crap...what side would I race on

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LOL

When i saw the title that's the first thing i thought about....hmmm too bad for Team SOLO

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Originally posted by v-town coupe:

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Crap...what side would I race on

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LOL

When i saw the title that's the first thing i thought about....hmmm too bad for Team SOLO

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thats why his name is whati it is SOLO whe will be the only one racing on his own team "the confused ford owners"LOL is this car finally ready or what?

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Motor on engine stand. Changing out oil pump shaft tonight and will check out the rod bearings to make sure I didn't mess anything up. If everything goes as planned, I'll be at the grudge night Saturday, June 4th. Got a couple races already setup...
 

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Posted by mustanggt5091 (Member # 444) on :
 
Im going to TNT finally on the 3rd to do some shake down runs and learn this car then I gotta go back to the dyno for a retune. If she doesnt break I may attend this year if it is held
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I was reading on there site and they sure are having fun talking crap about the low turn out cars from the CA fords site(after they kind of highjacked the event) they seem a little to caught up in how fast they think they are LOL
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
I'll be there representin'. JohnB did a fantastic job on the rear end, its up and at 'em.
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
When is this goin on? I would like to get in on it too!!
 

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Posted by kwikrob (Member # 835) on :
 
Don't know if I'm welcome after 94yellowgt took down my fastest times which would put me at the number 3 spot on bottle and 6 on motor. Oh well. Apparently I'm not a post whore.
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


[ November 06, 2006, 12:56 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by Red C5:
if you go to

www.norcal-ls1.com

there is a section you can read about it. I don't think you have to register to see it.

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Just checked it out and it's PRIVATE

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/forum/
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
Cant make this one I will be puttin in my detroit locker in that weekend Hopefully some of those guys will be out the following week for some action
 

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Posted by kwikrob (Member # 835) on :
 

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Originally posted by season'd 88:

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Originally posted by kwikrob:
Don't know if I'm welcome after 94yellowgt took down my fastest times which would put me at the number 3 spot on bottle and 6 on motor. Oh well. Apparently I'm not a post whore.

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I would PM Drew directly and discuss. Hes a very reasonable person. BTW, your car is awesome

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When is the race by the way? Need to make sure I can make it before i go asking. Drew got a little bent out of shape when I said that the fastest board had not been updated in about 9 months. He then updated it, leaving me out.
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
I think I can make it this year and I'll try to make sure it stays running this time.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Originally posted by kwikrob:
Don't know if I'm welcome after 94yellowgt took down my fastest times which would put me at the number 3 spot on bottle and 6 on motor. Oh well. Apparently I'm not a post whore.

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Reply to the fastest times list with your times, it will be updated. You may not be a post whore but you are definitely a whore
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
I was reading on there site and they sure are having fun talking crap about the low turn out cars from the CA fords site(after they kind of highjacked the event) they seem a little to caught up in how fast they think they are LOL

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Originally posted by aslowdodge:

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
I was reading on there site and they sure are having fun talking crap about the low turn out cars from the CA fords site(after they kind of highjacked the event) they seem a little to caught up in how fast they think they are LOL

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The turn out from Ca fords was very low, only about 3 cars out of many that said they would race. If you go back and look up the old posts after this event you will even see ca ford members that did race asking where all the ford guys were.
Not sure what you mean by hijacking the event, but the event was put on by Nor Cal LS1 who completely fronted the 5 grand to pay for the race, so really the event was their all along.

The year before last was a bigger turn out with the GM camp barely edging out the ford camp by 2 races.

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was that 2 races ahead with the Brain get the win over the nitrous lt1 white camaro, dont remember his name

but i remember the controvery, just because the lt1 cant cut a good light on the fly, as chase is a rance and the mustang got the won lights

no more ranting , i will try and make this years but dont know if i can compete for cafords, since my car will be a chevy powered chevy, not anything like the teamsolo's monstrosity
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
what started out as a fun little get together was ruined when somebody wanted to make money off the event...my car was down at the time with alot of others. I am not going to go race a event put on buy a LS1 group. That is just me speaking since nobody gives me money to race I get to chose

[ June 19, 2005, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
yep that was the year and that was THE race of the night. Isn't there a video of it floating around?

I'm not part of the planning this year, but it sounds like they got a better time to do it than last year which was during the day. They have a night time spot at sacto now.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what started out as a fun little get together was ruined when somebody wanted to make money off the event...my car was down at the time with alot of others. I am not going to go race a event put on buy a LS1 group. That is just me speaking since nobody gives me money to race I get to chose

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what started out as a fun little get together was ruined when somebody wanted to make money off the event...my car was down at the time with alot of others. I am not going to go race a event put on buy a LS1 group. That is just me speaking since nobody gives me money to race I get to chose

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you're entitled to do whatever you think is right. Nor cal LS1 is a club. They are registered as a non profit organization, have liability insurance they pay for, and they fronted the money. There is no reason for them not to want to make money for the club. I know they took almost every penny in the club's treasury and risked it to put on an event. Had the event failed the club would have lost all their funds that they saved up for club members that were made from dues and putting on autox events. It's not like the people in charge were pocketing the money themselves. It is not uncommon for a club to have an event to raise funds for the club. A year ago they had a dyno day and charged for it. The funds were donated to cytic fibrosis foundation.
If you yourself had a club and took out more than 5 grand to rent the track, medical crew, security, workers, etc, would you do it for free?
That's like telling the people running the ca fords show coming up they shouldn't charge because you think they are trying to turn a profit for themselves. Who's paying for the location, trophies, etc. Man-I'm never going to buy girlscout cookies because I know they make money on them. Maybe you should tell sacto not to charge either because they wanna make a profit too.
Like I said, You can do whatever you think is right. I just wanted to show you the other side. If you can afford to put on the event yourself, put in the time to organize it where no one has to pay (that way there's no accusations from others that you are trying to make a profit), then you should do it. You will have a tremendous showing, no doubt about that. And you will be doing a great thing for both ford and gm camps.
But if you can appreciate what clubs or organizations do to put on an event both time wise and moneywise, then hopefully you will go and represent ford and the next event.

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it seemed like last years event was decent, it was just at a shitty time, and ford didnt show up big, but ford still cleaned up
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0JEEP (Member # 1482) on :
 
We'll be there this year if we can get our Procharger fixed from over reving.
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Nobody had to put up money for the event. That was the beauty of it.It was two groups getting together having fun at a grudge. If my car would have been running last year I probably would have showed up.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
Nobody had to put up money for the event. That was the beauty of it.It was two groups getting together having fun at a grudge. If my car would have been running last year I probably would have showed up.

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what started out as a fun little get together was ruined when somebody wanted to make money off the event...my car was down at the time with alot of others. I am not going to go race a event put on buy a LS1 group. That is just me speaking since nobody gives me money to race I get to chose

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what started out as a fun little get together was ruined when somebody wanted to make money off the event...my car was down at the time with alot of others. I am not going to go race a event put on buy a LS1 group. That is just me speaking since nobody gives me money to race I get to chose

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First of all.... are you aware of how much money it cost to rent out sacramento raceway? (over $5000) Did you know that besides money you also need insurance? (which as a non profit - we actually have) did you know we also handed out CASH MONEY, AND real nice trophies last year? .... if you dont want to race at our event thats FINE....... if you think its easy to put on such an event: PLEASE go ahead and try.

I came on here before ( a few months ago) and openly invited ALL of you guys to our event this year (sept 10th) and what happened? my thread got deleted.....

We are NOT making fun at the low turnout from you guys last year- that WAS an issue that was brought up- but were letting the past stay in the past!

were out there to HAVE FUN, not to play silly games with anyone....... again, if you guys wanna come out- feel free...... sept 10th.


Damian

Norcal LS1 President

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Damian PM the details of the event and I will make a post for it. I was trying to get them off of the norcal-ls1 site but your forms are throwing a DB error.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
I know that we had some issues a little while back on our site. It should be okay now
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
thanks for making me aware over and over again how much it costs to put on the race LOL. It has been posted enough I think everybody knows. I also know I raced the Westcoast Fords race at Sac this year and it was 40.00 dollars to run the brackets. Post your details again maybe it will fly over here.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
sorry to repost it, for some reason you just didn't seem to get it, so even if it gets reposted, it still won't fly with you so we'll stop.

To run an organized race with ford vs gm with cash payouts & trophies and bbq, and exclusive private rental of the track, I'd say you got a good deal for $40 bucks. I don't know how west coast fords could afford it, but they must have had connections to get a lower rate than Nor cal because at the price that nor cal is charging, there isn't that much profit. I'd say if your getting all that for less than nor cal, then I don't blame you for running that event over Nor cal. But compare apples to apples,if west coast fords didn't provide everything, than you can't say Nor cal is neccessarily overpriced.
Too bad, it looks like with your cars you could have made some $$ & won a trophy.

[ June 20, 2005, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: aslowdodge ]
 

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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
when where? how much?..
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Why all the talk of previous years races? If you wanna run this year, DO IT.

I am.
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I started the topic because I am interested in the race
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Sept 10, 2005...calendar marked.

Now how can I bride my wife into letting me go!!!

haha
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
2Stangs...we've got us a race going!!!

You: member number 1951, Oct 2002, 1044 posts.

Me: member number 1981, Oct 2002, 1103 posts.


 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
LOL kind funny if you think about it.......1045

[ June 22, 2005, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 

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Posted by F8LPONY (Member # 11) on :
 
Glad that's all cleared up.

Hope to see you guys out there. Maybe there will be a Lightning I can play with in my new truck.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by F8LPONY:
Glad that's all cleared up.

Hope to see you guys out there. Maybe there will be a Lightning I can play with in my new truck.

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I'll be there in my Lightning.

[ June 23, 2005, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]
 

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Posted by F8LPONY (Member # 11) on :
 

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I'll be there in my Lightning.

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GAH! It had to be you. Why not some noob that doesn't know his way around a Ford? LOL

If I get lucky it'll be running by then. I won't be legal to race in the event but maybe an exibition pass or 2.
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
Looking forward to this event count me in!!
 

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Posted by 50deep (Member # 5094) on :
 
i dont know what i have to do to get in, but my car is done and he is starving for some CHEVY'S!
count me in.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by F8LPONY:

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Originally posted by Jeff S:
I'll be there in my Lightning.

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GAH! It had to be you. Why not some noob that doesn't know his way around a Ford? LOL

If I get lucky it'll be running by then. I won't be legal to race in the event but maybe an exibition pass or 2.

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What is not legal about your truck and what are you hoping to run?
 

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Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on :
 
Is everything still on track for 10/10...I picked up another bottle just in case...
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Mine's ready.
 

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Posted by SteedaGT (Member # 2805) on :
 
Whens the date set for 05? I am in! Hopefully the Vortech will be tunned and the straight axle will be in!
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
10/10 is the date damm I am going to a Monday night Steeler charger game on the 11th.....uhoh
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
10/10 is the date damm I am going to a Monday night Steeler charger game on the 11th.....uhoh

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Mike your a lucky guy i would love to see that game. Hope you can still make the race. Not likely mine will be back up by then.. but we'll see.
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Boy I sure hope you are ready buy then. Your car is going to rip.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Oct. 10th is the day? We'll probably have the Cobra up and running by then.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Man I can't wait for cooler weather and a sticky track
 

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Posted by SteedaGT (Member # 2805) on :
 
10/10, someone should start a new thread.
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 

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Originally posted by SteedaGT:
10/10, someone should start a new thread.

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We need someone to video tape the event.
 

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Posted by SteedaGT (Member # 2805) on :
 
Well the Vortech was ordered today so that will be ready!
 

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Posted by BigBadChevi (Member # 5352) on :
 
My chevy is runnin also hungry for some 5liters...
 

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Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by BigBadChevi:
My chevy is runnin also hungry for some 5liters...

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Originally posted by BigBadChevi:
My chevy is runnin also hungry for some 5liters...

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My 5liters just ate some chevy...

Where'd he go...

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Originally posted by BigBadChevi:
My chevy is runnin also hungry for some 5liters...

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And my stang is hungry for an F-body
 

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Posted by SteedaGT (Member # 2805) on :
 
Does the F-stand for Food? LOL
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
I am plannin on putting on my mehtanol kit and getting it tuned before this event, hope the wheather is good. I heard there were a bunch of 13 & 12 second F bodys out there last year hope they plan on bringin more heat this year!!
 

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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
so wha and when are tha exact times and dates..im down to go...ill be the camerea man..lol
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 

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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
I am plannin on putting on my mehtanol kit and getting it tuned before this event, hope the wheather is good. I heard there were a bunch of 13 & 12 second F bodys out there last year hope they plan on bringin more heat this year!!

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I think it will depend on what class you run.
BTW you will love meth on your boosted car.
It helped mine a lot with all the heat and crappy 91 octane gass
 

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Posted by Perry (Member # 1846) on :
 
Is the NHRA rules going to be followed pertaining to safety gear if you run faster than 11.49???

Just curious how you guys pick the pairings also?
Is it done like a grudge race or do you try to line up cars with comparable ET's??

I would love to represent the Ford camp in my Lil 2 valve.

Later friends,

Perry
 

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Posted by gixxer408 (Member # 2454) on :
 
This race is not a Ford vs Chevy. Its called the Norcal Shootout. You race everybody in ur class, whether its a ford, chevy, or yugo.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Saw the info so i thought i'd post it here for anyone interested.

Norcal LS1/LT1 Car Club is hosting the "Norcal Shootout 2005 sponsored by Synergy Motorsports" on Sept 10, 2005 from 6:00pm-11:00pm at Sacramento Raceway.

6:00pm gates will open for racers and spectators.
6:30pm-8:00pm time trials
8:00pm-11:00pm eliminations

There will be cash prices for 1st and 2nd place in ALL classes (check the payout schedule for amounts) and trophies for 1st and 2nd place as well.

We will also be having a Jackpot race. $20 extra buy-in, heads up/tog dawg style racing. Winner takes all. All money collected for the Jackpot race goes to the winner, Norcal LS1/LT1 Car Club will not take ANY of that money.

Entry fee for spectators $10
Tech card is $45

IN OTHER WORDS Car and Driver = $55 total!!!


Class Descriptions:

Jackpot Race - $20 entry fee. Heads-Up Winner Take All – Great Spectator Class
Anything goes (non-stock style suspension, non original EFI motor [Small Block Chevy], two power adders etc.)

All Other Classes must retain Stock Style Suspension, Full Interior and Body Work (no Lexan), Tire Limitations only where listed

1) Bracket I – 11.99 and Quicker (possibly 11.49 and Quicker)

2) Bracket II – 12.00 and Slower (possibly 11.50 and Slower)

3) Truck Bracket

4) Stock Motor (Longblock) – All Bolt-ons allowed to include Cam swaps. No Cylinder Head work. Stock motor internals. D.O.T. Tires.

5) Stock Displacement + 1 Power Adder – May use aftermarket internals but stock displacement (give a few cubes for hone or slight over-bore???? i.e. freshened motor not a bore for the sake of cubes)

6) “Stroker” Motors NA – must be based on originally EFI motor. LS1/LT1/L98/FordModMotor/LC2 etc

7) “Stroker” Motor + 1 Power Adder – As above w/ One Power Adder

8) “Outlaw” – 10.5" class (similar to PSCA and NHRA OUTLAW 10.5 classes)

Payouts:

Class 1st 2nd Total

Bracket I $200 $100 $300

Bracket II $100 $50 $150

Truck Bracket $100 $50 $150

Stock Motor $100 $50 $150

Stock + Power Adder $200 $100 $300

Stroker NA $200 $100 $300

Stroker + Power Adder $300 $150 $450

Outlaw $500 $250 $750

Totals $1,700 $850 $2,550


 

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Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on :
 
So I would be stroker with one power adder but what happens if I don't have the full interior anymore???
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 

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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
I am plannin on putting on my mehtanol kit and getting it tuned before this event, hope the wheather is good. I heard there were a bunch of 13 & 12 second F bodys out there last year hope they plan on bringin more heat this year!!

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I think it will depend on what class you run.
BTW you will love meth on your boosted car.
It helped mine a lot with all the heat and crappy 91 octane gass

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I hope there is a a good turn out for ca fords and the chevy camp. I hope when they have the classes and et limits all figured out they will post them up on our site so we can figure out what exact class we will be runnin in.

aslowdodge did you have any before or after #s at the track or dyno? My motor is 9.8 to 1 with a pullied up vortech non intercooled, so I am hoping for some great results.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
I don't have any perfect data. On a dynojet I only got 580 something with 680 something torque. I had a feeling the rockers were improperly adjusted. I readjusted them and change cats to a little freer flowing ones.
On a dynapak on the tune I had It immediately detonated as soon as boost hit and I had 9 degrees of timing pulled. With methanol I went full timing ( actually went beyond) and detonation was gone. The dyno reading was approx 670/780. The meth allowed me to bring back all the timing which robbed power. Also the meth has higher octane and the water has a cooling effect.
On the 100 shot best pull of 3 ( in my sig) with no detonation whatsoever. Depending on your car you could easily add at least another 30 hp with the meth ( probably more). It's cooling and octane are a double plus.
I would run a 50/50 mix

[ August 04, 2005, 12:43 AM: Message edited by: aslowdodge ]
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by aslowdodge:
I don't have any perfect data. On a dynojet I only got 580 something with 680 something torque. I had a feeling the rockers were improperly adjusted. I readjusted them and change cats to a little freer flowing ones.
On a dynapak on the tune I had It immediately detonated as soon as boost hit and I had 9 degrees of timing pulled. With methanol I went full timing ( actually went beyond) and detonation was gone. The dyno reading was approx 670/780. The meth allowed me to bring back all the timing which robbed power. Also the meth has higher octane and the water has a cooling effect.
On the 100 shot best pull of 3 ( in my sig) with no detonation whatsoever. Depending on your car you could easily add at least another 30 hp with the meth ( probably more). It's cooling and octane are a double plus.
I would run a 50/50 mix

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or just run staright meth, works better, and the cost difference is minimal to 50/50
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
you could run straight, but you gain no extra power at all plus the straight meth is flamable whereas the 50/50 mix is supposedly not. My tank is mounted inside the car with me so that is an important point.
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
i woulod debate that, it makes more power with the meth and a proper tune

i have personnal experience running both ways, 100% meth ran better
 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
i use meth
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
100% meth is not recomended. use a 50/50 mix. it actualy cools the mixture better. many years of scientific testing proved it......
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
all I can say id to try it both ways and decide for yourself. If the meth at 50/50 results in a higher octane than you need, why go straight? Kinda like running race gas in bone stock car. Very little benefit in comparison to the investment.
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
It isn't a octane thing it is a heat reduction thing. The 50/50 mix will give you 120+ anyhow but the cooling on the intake charge is much greater with 50/50 than 100%. Do a little research I did before I ever bought my boost cooler 1 1/2 years ago
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
thanks for the info guysjust ordered a snows stage two kit for efi mustangs, its on backorder for 1.5 weeks but should be ready for the ford vs. chevy race.
 

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Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :
 
Yup, my understanding is the water is doing most of the cooling and the meth is good for the octane boost. at 120 with a 50/50 mix, I can't see why you would need straight meth, esp if you give up some cooling effect of water.

With the mix you get a cooling effect and and octane raise. with straight you might raise octane, but if it's more than you need, why give up the cooling of the water.
 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 
I'm the guy that TheBrain (the other Brian) raced in the white LT1 with nitrous. Bad time in that cars life for me... only able to pull an 11.03 on the bottle.

Anyway, I ran a faster time down the track, then Brian's blue 5.0 vert, but he treed me by .6xx.

I had been redlighting all night and on the last race figured I had time to burn/wait. Turned out to bite me in the ass.

I never complained at all about the race, Brian (thebrain) won fair and square. This is my proof that faster cars can and do loose to slower cars. It comes down to driver, reaction time, consistancy, breaking, traction, etc.

As for the rest of the debates, I think Aslowdodge summed it up well.

We (www.norcal-ls1.com) are not just a message board, but a car club that acts like a family. We have gone through the long/tedious process of becoming a Non Profit Organization and obtaining insurance to put on events such as this. We all pay $20 a year dues and put on events and work them ourselves to add money to our Club's/Companies bank account so we can donate money to charities, put on events for our members and other car enthusiasts.

So, if you are interested in a mostly EFI Drag Race Venue in Northern California, please come on out to Sacramento Raceway Park on Sept 10th, 2005 for NORCAL SHOOTOUT 2005!!!

CA Fords Website link to NORCAL SHOOTOUT 2005!!!

Oh yeah, there are updated rules/class descriptions on this link. The previously posted rules/class descriptions in this thread were the originally proposed rules that have been changed to allow a closer match between the Fords and the GM's.

[ August 16, 2005, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: WHYT LIE ]
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
Is a back seat required? Just need to know if I need to reinstall it .
 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 
I am trying to get everyone to have a full interior. However, it is common for the F-body guys to remove the rear seat back and leave the cushions. Still has a stock look to it as there is carpet, and actually provides more room for passengers and tires.

Basically we need either upholstry or carpet there. If you have carpet, then you're good. But you do need both front seats and carpet, interior panels, etc.

How does a Mustang look without a rear seat?
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
Okay, thanks. Mine is full interior and back seat area is carpeted.

 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 
John, looks clean enough for me. How much weight do you Mustang guys save by ditching the rear seat? 5-20 lbs?
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
I think it's like 10-11 lbs of saving if the replacement material is not overly heavy. Some guys get carried away with replacement construction and end up putting almost as much back in as the seats weigh.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
Will there be test n tune passes between rounds? My car doesn't fit into a class but wouldn't mind getting some runs in.

John91Coupe...if they do have a 'between rounds' lane open and for some reason you are not still in the thick of things....maybe we can punch one off.
 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Will there be test n tune passes between rounds? My car doesn't fit into a class but wouldn't mind getting some runs in.

John91Coupe...if they do have a 'between rounds' lane open and for some reason you are not still in the thick of things....maybe we can punch one off.

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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
Will there be test n tune passes between rounds? My car doesn't fit into a class but wouldn't mind getting some runs in.

John91Coupe...if they do have a 'between rounds' lane open and for some reason you are not still in the thick of things....maybe we can punch one off.

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Well from 6:00-8:00 is qualifications to find your dial in and test out the track.

Then we start Eliminations at 8:30 and will have a "loser" lane and grudge lane. No promise on amount of passes in those lanes though... we will pull from them while waiting between rounds.

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Right on...I qualify for the 'loser' lane right from the start...I feel special
 

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