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Posted by 5.t0es (Member # 5864) on :
 
So my wife was following a story about 6 years ago, about a baby who was shaken by his nanny. He ended up with serious health problems. I just looked up the story and the young child had passed away at 4. Very sad, breaks my heart. I am curious to know why the c.u.n.t who did this to the little guy only gets 16 months in jail? It is a sad world when a drug dealer gets ten times more prison time than a baby killer. Why is this?
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
The system is all fucked up. Needs some changing.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
i have a rather different view of how this all should work. child rapists and murders are taken to a barn where they are shot once in the head until dead, yea yea some people want to see them suffer but this is merely business. drug dealers, we can give them 3 times to stop that shit. after the 3rd same barn treatment. also this applies to the career criminals. you obviously cant function in the real world and if you frequent jail or prison *BANG*. but since i dont trust our government for shit this can never happen. they will find a way to abuse and screw it up. plus its not profitable as keeping someone in jail for life so it will never happen.
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
^^^^^^ I AGREE WITH YOU ^^^^^

Would save us money
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
I don't understand the not as profitable to kill statement. I don't follow all the news so I'm probably just ignorant to the facts but doesn't keeping someone in prison for life just raise taxes like crazy?
I've heard people mention the prisons are getting more money for keeping people locked up but who gets that profit?
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Don't prisons get more money than schools?
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
i dont know the numbers but i see it as a budget that is allocated to the prison system. lets say we cut prison populations in half, which would still make it higher then say canada (per capita), i would assume the budget should be cut to the same effect. then what happens to the staff? do they cut positions? i dont know the way the money is used and what not but im glad i dont, that would just be something else to be angry at. lol
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
Someone said that California has more prisons then university's don't know how true that is but it's more profitable to send some one to prison then it is to school sad thing!!
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 97cobra209:
Someone said that California has more prisons then university's don't know how true that is but it's more profitable to send some one to prison then it is to school sad thing!!
lets also be clear that people are actually breaking laws to get locked up, i dont buy into the whole government is putting people into prison for no reason deal.
 
Posted by Secnd2nun64 (Member # 1431) on :
 
Maybe Toby Keith has it right. [Big Grin]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1JOFhfoAD4
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
People definately break the law but there should be guide lines for prison time. Like drug convictions shouldn't get more time than rape,vehicular manslaughter,attempted murder. I have a friend doing 25 years for 3 kilos of coke but I went to this case in Redwood City about a drunk driver that killed an off duty officer and got sentenced for 5.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
I can't say I have much sympathy for someone with 3 kilos of coke. Are those 25 mandatory minimum? If so that's a pretty long time.
 
Posted by x Raelsmar x (Member # 9804) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Don't prisons get more money than schools?
Yes, and it's complete bullshit.
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by x Raelsmar x:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Don't prisons get more money than schools?
Yes, and it's complete bullshit.
good taxpayers money always getting spent the wrong way!!
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by macthizzle:
People definately break the law but there should be guide lines for prison time. Like drug convictions shouldn't get more time than rape,vehicular manslaughter,attempted murder. I have a friend doing 25 years for 3 kilos of coke but I went to this case in Redwood City about a drunk driver that killed an off duty officer and got sentenced for 5.
there more to then him having 3 keys of blow.when moving weight there all kinds of charges that go with it.an if was cuaght with a gun an dope the can get charged by the feds which have different sentencing guide lines.

[ 2014-10-11, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: hurting your feelings ]
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5.t0es:
So my wife was following a story about 6 years ago, about a baby who was shaken by his nanny. He ended up with serious health problems. I just looked up the story and the young child had passed away at 4. Very sad, breaks my heart. I am curious to know why the c.u.n.t who did this to the little guy only gets 16 months in jail? It is a sad world when a drug dealer gets ten times more prison time than a baby killer. Why is this?
She was probably convicted of manslaughter. That generally carries a much lower penalty. To be convicted of murder, you have to be able to prove a lot more than just someone died. The jury probably had enough evidence to convict on manslaughter and not murder.
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.t0es:
So my wife was following a story about 6 years ago, about a baby who was shaken by his nanny. He ended up with serious health problems. I just looked up the story and the young child had passed away at 4. Very sad, breaks my heart. I am curious to know why the c.u.n.t who did this to the little guy only gets 16 months in jail? It is a sad world when a drug dealer gets ten times more prison time than a baby killer. Why is this?
She was probably convicted of manslaughter. That generally carries a much lower penalty. To be convicted of murder, you have to be able to prove a lot more than just someone died. The jury probably had enough evidence to convict on manslaughter and not murder.
Or she took a deal since baby didn't die at the time of the incident!!
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
quote:
there more to then him having 3 keys of blow.when moving weight there all kinds of charges that go with it.an if was cuaght with a gun an dope the can get charged by the feds which have different sentencing guide lines.
Yes there was more to it. I believe there was transporting crossing state borders. Loaded weapon. He's doing straight time no parole. He was offered a deal but he didn't take it.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by macthizzle:
quote:
there more to then him having 3 keys of blow.when moving weight there all kinds of charges that go with it.an if was cuaght with a gun an dope the can get charged by the feds which have different sentencing guide lines.
Yes there was more to it. I believe there was transporting crossing state borders. Loaded weapon. He's doing straight time no parole. He was offered a deal but he didn't take it.
Then he went federal an that has a whole different sentencing guidelines.
 




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