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Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
Heavy car but damn that's a lot of HP for a factory muscle car.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/02/autos/dodge-challenger-hellcat/
 
Posted by 87_Hatch (Member # 6714) on :
 
14/15 shelby is faster [Roll Eyes]

[ 2014-07-02, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: 87_Hatch ]
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87_Hatch:
14/15 shelby is faster [Roll Eyes]
Not according to this web page but we will know soon.

[ 2014-07-02, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: TrueBlue ]
 
Posted by Blow_U_In_Reverse (Member # 12298) on :
 
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Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
I'd like to see the Hellcat run the Saleen 351. 700hp vs 707hp

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Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
Thats a lot of hp factory. But the problem with amercans cars like this one is that to much hp for the car. Btw ford is bringing to the USA the focus rs with thr ecoboost engine that should be a fun little car.
 
Posted by TEXAS (Member # 11875) on :
 
Hit up lxjames, I believe he sold his suburban and bought a hellcat
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
Thats a lot of hp factory. But the problem with amercans cars like this one is that to much hp for the car. Btw ford is bringing to the USA the focus rs with thr ecoboost engine that should be a fun little car.
You a damn commie? Never to much hp. And that are what American Muscle cars are all about. Big power, in big cars.
 
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on :
 
Some buddy buy one. I want to race. [patriot]
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
Thats a lot of hp factory. But the problem with amercans cars like this one is that to much hp for the car.
Really? Why? [Confused]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TEXAS:
Hit up lxjames, I believe he sold his suburban and bought a hellcat
You sure? I thought he was gonna buy a hellcat straight up N trading his suburban for a built fox?
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
Thats a lot of hp factory. But the problem with amercans cars like this one is that to much hp for the car. Btw ford is bringing to the USA the focus rs with thr ecoboost engine that should be a fun little car.
You a damn commie? Never to much hp. And that are what American Muscle cars are all about. Big power, in big cars.
Hell fuckin yea! [patriot]
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Its getting stupid now. How about make the cars lighter and functional instead of raising the HP and adding more weight? Bet this thing wouldnt even be able to beat a C6Z.
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TEXAS:
Hit up lxjames, I believe he sold his suburban and bought a hellcat
It's not for sale yet

[ 2014-07-02, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: TrueBlue ]
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
Its getting stupid now. How about make the cars lighter and functional instead of raising the HP and adding more weight? Bet this thing wouldnt even be able to beat a C6Z.
The curb weight is on par with full size muscle cars of the late 60's and 1970's.
 
Posted by Stang66 (Member # 10504) on :
 
Can't really make cars any lighter (factory-wise) in terms of safety standards, I'll take the high hp anyday
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stang66:
Can't really make cars any lighter (factory-wise) in terms of safety standards, I'll take the high hp anyday
Go aluminum like the f150
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Given the fact that the current Challenger SRT8 weighs about 4200 pounds already (without a supercharger), the Hellcat won't even match the power to weight ratio of the current GT500. Those cars are pigs. It'll need every one of those 707 ponies.
 
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TrueBlue:
quote:
Originally posted by Stang66:
Can't really make cars any lighter (factory-wise) in terms of safety standards, I'll take the high hp anyday
Go aluminum like the f150
This.

The excessive weight of modern muscle cars is partly safety, partly their ever increasing huge size to fit the average obese American in the cabin, and partly manufacturers building them out of cheap, heavy materials.

Everyone makes the argument that cheaper materials lead to cheaper prices... But I'm betting the new lighter aluminum F150 will only be a few thousand more than the outgoing model... Land Rover recently did the same thing with the Range Rover lineup... Dropping some 800lbs off the current generation, without increasing the price substantially versus the outgoing models.
 
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on :
 
The new M3/4 weighs the same as the E36 M3. There's ways to cut weight.
 
Posted by 06ragtopgt_SOS (Member # 11327) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by TrueBlue:
quote:
Originally posted by Stang66:
Can't really make cars any lighter (factory-wise) in terms of safety standards, I'll take the high hp anyday
Go aluminum like the f150
This.

The excessive weight of modern muscle cars is partly safety, partly their ever increasing huge size to fit the average obese American in the cabin, and partly manufacturers building them out of cheap, heavy materials.

Everyone makes the argument that cheaper materials lead to cheaper prices... But I'm betting the new lighter aluminum F150 will only be a few thousand more than the outgoing model... Land Rover recently did the same thing with the Range Rover lineup... Dropping some 800lbs off the current generation, without increasing the price substantially versus the outgoing models.
Rovers saw roughly a $10k price increase for like models with the intro of the new aluminum bodies. Although driving a 2013 vs a 2012 Range Rover supercharged was night and day difference in performance with relatively no change in hp ratings. There's also the factor of body work. I longer work for rover but as of 3 months ago when I left we had to send all aluminum work to stockton, where the only certified aluminum body shop in the region is.
 
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
I'd like to see the Hellcat run the Saleen 351. 700hp vs 707hp

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Both cars are sick, its amazing seeing what these factories are putting out!!!! Nice job Ford, Chevy Dodge etc.... [patriot]
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
I have to admit this thing sounds great! Love the intake too (5:00).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msuzJGlsoY

[ 2014-07-10, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: TrueBlue ]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
I like this rumor:

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/44666/rumor-mill-ford-will-unleash-750-horsepower-in-2016-svt-mustang
 
Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :
 
merica
 
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
$59k MSRP announced.
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
Not a bad price u was expecting $70k
 
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 06ragtopgt_SOS:
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
This.

The excessive weight of modern muscle cars is partly safety, partly their ever increasing huge size to fit the average obese American in the cabin, and partly manufacturers building them out of cheap, heavy materials.

Everyone makes the argument that cheaper materials lead to cheaper prices... But I'm betting the new lighter aluminum F150 will only be a few thousand more than the outgoing model... Land Rover recently did the same thing with the Range Rover lineup... Dropping some 800lbs off the current generation, without increasing the price substantially versus the outgoing models.
Rovers saw roughly a $10k price increase for like models with the intro of the new aluminum bodies. Although driving a 2013 vs a 2012 Range Rover supercharged was night and day difference in performance with relatively no change in hp ratings. There's also the factor of body work. I longer work for rover but as of 3 months ago when I left we had to send all aluminum work to stockton, where the only certified aluminum body shop in the region is.
New 2015 aluminum-bodied F150 pricing announced. Price increase is minimal.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1407-2015-ford-f-150-starts-at-26615/?sm_id=social_20140728_28607406

[ 2014-07-28, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: 04 S281 ]
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
Resurrect this one. Now that some time has gone by the Hellcats are factory beasts. Still big but in a straight line the GT500, ZL1, and even neck and neck with the new Z06....(from a roll).

1/4's in the 10's too.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
^ They are nice but people are paying way over MSRP for those things.
 
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on :
 
The hellcat is about $85,000 on ebay, I'm sorry that is just way to much for a Dodge.
 
Posted by SVTGhoust (Member # 20) on :
 
At the last roll race event..a lot of people, including me beat the hellcat. Not impressed at all.
 
Posted by Z06-FTMFW (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SVTGhoust:
At the last roll race event..a lot of people, including me beat the hellcat. Not impressed at all.
You can't judge a car by that, just because few rich people bought a fast car doesn't mean they can drive it.
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Z06-FTMFW:
quote:
Originally posted by SVTGhoust:
At the last roll race event..a lot of people, including me beat the hellcat. Not impressed at all.
You can't judge a car by that, just because few rich people bought a fast car doesn't mean they can drive it.
If U can't roll race with an auto then U shouldn't own the car!
 




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