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Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
So I've pushed my stock shortblock as far a im willling to take it. It made 478hp 427ftlb with a s-trim, patriot heads and stage2 cams, and ran a best of 10.81 @ 126.9. Im super happy with what my 2v has done but i know i can go further with a forged bottom end.

Now I dont have all kinds of money for a brand new built sb, which is why i went with a termi build. And it helps to have a friend who is selling a cobra shortblock and is willing to take payments. lol The major changes in this build will be the shortblock, long tubes, ported professional products intake, and a si trim upgrade. The s-trim was making about 12psi @7k and i hope to be around 16-18psi with the new blower.

So far I have the engine on a stand, and im tearing down my current setup. I should have the heads off tomorrow and start assembly this weekend. It might take some time but ill update with pics and info as i go along. Enjoy!!!
cobra sb
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Old motor getting taken apart
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BBk lt's and ported intake
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[ 2014-03-03, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: vortek01gt ]
 
Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :
 
Looks bad ass tony!!!
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
That thing is going to be a beast. Nice set up Tony [patriot]
 
Posted by Built88LX (Member # 10758) on :
 
Nice build bro looking forward to seeing more pics of progress you make
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
That should haul some ass. Good luck with the build. [patriot]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Thanks guys! Here is today's progress, finished the porting on the intake and installed the new cobra oil pump. Might do some more work on the runners to smooth them out a bit, but we'll see.

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as you can see its more of a gasket match then a full port job, but it helps!
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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Very nice, can't wait to see what you do at the track when your done.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
I just want to shorten the amount of bus lengths Daniel will put on me lol
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
I just want to shorten the amount of bus lengths Daniel will put on me lol

Lol, now let's put an automatic in it and try to pass him up.
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
I just want to shorten the amount of bus lengths Daniel will put on me lol

Lol, now let's put an automatic in it and try to pass him up.
Lol, yeah and sell me your T56 [burnout]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
I just want to shorten the amount of bus lengths Daniel will put on me lol

Lol, now let's put an automatic in it and try to pass him up.
Lol, yeah and sell me your T56 [burnout]
Dont wanna change too much all at once. Plus i LOVE bangin gears!
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
Cage. Unless you want the time slip lady to hassle you again lol
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Yes ill add that to the build list.....she wasnt too happy witj me last time.lol
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Yeah you definitely going to need a cage
 
Posted by DA PO PO FOO (Member # 1910) on :
 
Looks good buddy
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
Your going to love that SI upgrade, hope your doing a balancer and 8 rib if you already havent.. Otherwise belt slip will be a bitch
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Made a little progress today. Laid some paint down on the timing cover and intake. They look good in the pics but up close kinda looks like poop.lol No one is ever really gonna see it so its good enough for me [Smile]
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I had a balancer crap out on me which caused the damage to the cover. But with the replacement balancer on you cant even see it.
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Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Looks good bro! Can you paint my timing cover for me, lol
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
Your going to love that SI upgrade, hope your doing a balancer and 8 rib if you already havent.. Otherwise belt slip will be a bitch

To be honest i was gonna keep it 6rib and hope for the best. Lol. Ill look into the 8rib setup tho
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
Your going to love that SI upgrade, hope your doing a balancer and 8 rib if you already havent.. Otherwise belt slip will be a bitch

To be honest i was gonna keep it 6rib and hope for the best. Lol. Ill look into the 8rib setup tho
lol, theres no way youll get away running that many lbs of boost without slipping but you can try..Who knows, maybe youll get lucky.. If you want to keep it 6rib atleast look into a Innovators west overdrive balancer to help you achieve those boost levels without spinning the blower much harder.. Nice build, i follow you on Youtube also..Im sure well run into eachother at the track here shortly [patriot]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

there ya go. Thats my configuration as well. Should be good for 15-17lbs. might be less with your topend.

Love seeing quick 2v's..
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

A 10% od crank pulley with a 3.3 pulley should put you around 13-14psi.
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

there ya go. Thats my configuration as well. Should be good for 15-17lbs. might be less with your topend.

Love seeing quick 2v's..

From I been seeing a 3.12 pulley with an 10% od pulley will get you 15-17psi [Confused]
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

A 10% od crank pulley with a 3.3 pulley should put you around 13-14psi.
revving to 7k rpm's like he does, it should be more than 13-14 psi.. every car is different though. I know on most 4v setups ive seen 10% OD and 3.33 or 3.4" upper is around 15 lbs

[ 2014-03-07, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Vndcatr ]
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
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Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

A 10% od crank pulley with a 3.3 pulley should put you around 13-14psi.
revving to 7k rpm's like he does, it should be more than 13-14 psi..
Gotcha
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Thats actually what i was planning on doing, running a OD crank pulley and maybe a 3.3 and see where that puts me.

there ya go. Thats my configuration as well. Should be good for 15-17lbs. might be less with your topend.

Love seeing quick 2v's..

Have you had any belt slip issues with that setup?
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
i follow you on Youtube also..Im sure well run into eachother at the track here shortly [patriot]

What is your screen name on youtube?
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Got one of the heads off and started to brake it down for new valve seals and to lap the valves.
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I need a garage. Doing a build like this at an appartment car port sucks.
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Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Damn you doin this swap in a car port [Confused] Must be tough bro
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Doing all the teardown in the car port. Im going to take all the parts to the shop and build the motor there, and when the motor is all ready to go ill tow the car to the shop and install it. Its moving along [Smile]
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Let me know when you want to move, I will help you with that
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Doing all the teardown in the car port. Im going to take all the parts to the shop and build the motor there, and when the motor is all ready to go ill tow the car to the shop and install it. Its moving along [Smile]

Sweet
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
ARP main studs, arp 200 rod bolts, arp flywheel bolts, and not pictured are arp head studs. Got my shipment of gaskets from rock-auto today and im almost done cleaning up the heads, so i should start assymbly sometime this weekend.
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[ 2014-03-20, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: vortek01gt ]
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
ARP main studs, arp 200 rod bolts, arp flywheel bolts, and not pictured are arp head studs. Got my shipment of gaskets from rock-auto today and im almost done cleaning up the heads, so i should start assymbly sometime this weekend.
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Nice!
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
I started putting the longblock together and hit a snag. Found out that i have a bent valve on cyl #6, which is very surprising seeing how well it ran before i pulled the heads off. Looks like i need to track down a valve since patriot performance was sold to mod maxx. I hope they can help me out.
So these heads were on a built motor that kissed that valve when it blew. So i bought a new valve, lapped it and ran it like that for years. But i guess when the first valve bent it hit the seat and knocked it off kilter. And a new valve hitting a uneven seat bent that valve also. So now i need to get another one. I also need to send the head to a machine shop to see if they can cut the valve seat or replace it. The other head checked out so i went ahead and put it on after i put all the arp hardware on.

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Also took apart the intake manifold to start porting the runners, but ran out of the round flapper bits. Going to finish it up once i get some more.
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[ 2014-04-02, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: vortek01gt ]
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Damn that's crazy with the valve being bent. Your car was running pretty damn good for having a bent valve lol. Keep it coming bro it's coming along good.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
So I know I haven't updated this thread for a while. Bills, the bent valve, and financial obligations kinda kicked me in the nuts on this one lol, but Im past that and I've been gathering parts for the build and getting close to having everything I need.

Me and my wife took a trip to Tahoe this weekend and while we were there we made a trip to Summit Racing to get parts since its only 20-30 min from where we were staying. Not pictured but I ordered the replacement intake valve I needed, should be here in a week

New cobra hat/twin pumps. Im going to do the pprv delete soon also.
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Lethal performance fuel line upgrade kit
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Canton Windage tray
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Summit racing driveshaft safety loop
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[ 2014-07-29, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: vortek01gt ]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Another update. I decided to put new rings and hone the cylinders. Thanks to a co-worker he had an almost complete set of rings for it, all I need to do was call up seal-pro and order 8 bottom compression rings for the kit. I m not going to lie, I kinda boo booed some of the rings and cut the gap too wide(hey its my first time). So I just need to call and get a few more.

While I was talking to Don at rpm we decided that it would be a good idea to get all new valves for the heads as my old ones were starting to mushroom around the keepers. So I got a new set of manley intake/exhaust valves, and the heads are currently at the machine shop getting worked on! 5 angle valve job, resurface, set the installed height clean up the guides

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everything taken apart
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ooohhh SVT Manley!
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nice hone
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Almost all gapped and ready to go(except for 3 bottom rings)
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My cars new home until the motor gets finished.
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Posted by BTLD GT (Member # 5229) on :
 
Missed u at the track last couple of outings. Hopefully you can go soon

Daniel
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
I definatley miss going to the track. Hopefully i can make at least one more race before the end of the year.
 
Posted by 1NastyBullitt (Member # 12588) on :
 
Sick ass build bro
 
Posted by 90 7up lx (Member # 10304) on :
 
Nice.......

Question tho.....y termi instead of a teskid block?
And are those oem termi pistons as well??
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90 7up lx:
Nice.......

Question tho.....y termi instead of a teskid block?
And are those oem termi pistons as well??

Thanks. The whole shortblock is factory 03-04 cobra. I got it for a good price and didnt want to mess with putting the guts into another block. I know i could save some weight with the aluminum block but this one was a complete pretty much ready to go setup, just honed and ringed it for peace of mind.
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Build is coming along nice.
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Very nice build. keep us updated. [burnout]
 
Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
did you ever blow the old motor?
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:
did you ever blow the old motor?

Thankfully no it never blew. Not sure what to do with it after this one is done. No one is going to want to pay for a stock 4.6shortblock.........that i beat the hell out of lol
 
Posted by LETHL 03 (Member # 5401) on :
 
Why not swap the stock cobra piston? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were part of the weak link in cobras? Nice build bro and good to see people building fast 2V [patriot]
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
looking GOOD. what dose your car weigh?? [worship]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LETHL 03:
Why not swap the stock cobra piston? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were part of the weak link in cobras? Nice build bro and good to see people building fast 2V [patriot]

True they are a weak link along with the gap on the rings are tight from the factory. I just don't have it in the budget for pistons right now. Eventually I will fix the set of c heads I have and throw some good pistons at it, but for now with my power goals the factory cobra pistons should be more then enough. Thanks man!
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
looking GOOD. what dose your car weigh?? [worship]

So before I took out the ac compressor, lines, receiver/drier, and condenser, and switched to skinnies on a 1/4 tank it weighed 3100. So im estimating around 3200 with me in it, maybe a lil more depending on how much gas is in it. I just need to put it back on the scales after im all done.
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by LETHL 03:
Why not swap the stock cobra piston? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were part of the weak link in cobras? Nice build bro and good to see people building fast 2V [patriot]

True they are a weak link along with the gap on the rings are tight from the factory. I just don't have it in the budget for pistons right now. Eventually I will fix the set of c heads I have and throw some good pistons at it, but for now with my power goals the factory cobra pistons should be more then enough. Thanks man!
I think at your power levels with the S-trim youll be okay with that block. Build looks good man, i love watching your car launch! ha
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
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Originally posted by LETHL 03:
Why not swap the stock cobra piston? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were part of the weak link in cobras? Nice build bro and good to see people building fast 2V [patriot]

True they are a weak link along with the gap on the rings are tight from the factory. I just don't have it in the budget for pistons right now. Eventually I will fix the set of c heads I have and throw some good pistons at it, but for now with my power goals the factory cobra pistons should be more then enough. Thanks man!
I think at your power levels with the S-trim youll be okay with that block. Build looks good man, i love watching your car launch! ha
Haha ive watched the launching videos like a million times!
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
It's coming along great bro. Looking solid. 2v FTW
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
So I FINNALY got all the rings sorted out. lets just say there is a learning curve and I needed to get some extras. And I also finished the final assembly of the cylinder heads and got the long block all buttoned up.

I tried making a short time laps video with the GoPro and this is the first time using their editing software. I actually ran out of space on the memory card when filming, that's why the video ends suddenly. hope you guys enjoy and if you have any advice for camera placement like higher or closer or whatever just lmk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmnmhbkOUGs
 
Posted by Frank.JD.Perez (Member # 12650) on :
 
What type of heads/cams set up are you running? I know I read that you have the stage 2 and patriot heads but I am planning on doing a 2v teksid build for my 97 and im not sure what heads and cam setup will be smog able. I want to push close to 350rwhp but still need the car to pass smog, any tips?
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Badass vid man,nothing like building your hotrod YOURSELF,ONE of the most satisfying accomplishments to achieve in life in my O2..keep it up [patriot]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Frank.JD.Perez:
What type of heads/cams set up are you running? I know I read that you have the stage 2 and patriot heads but I am planning on doing a 2v teksid build for my 97 and im not sure what heads and cam setup will be smog able. I want to push close to 350rwhp but still need the car to pass smog, any tips?

Im running crower stage 2 blower cams. I was able to pass the sniffer with these. I think you are going to have a hard time hitting 350rwhp and still be able to pass smog. Alot of people like running cms or mhs cams, those guys a very knowledgeable andwill be able to give you better advice then me.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Badass vid man,nothing like building your hotrod YOURSELF,ONE of the most satisfying accomplishments to achieve in life in my O2..keep it up [patriot]

Thanks man, its been pretty fun so far. It really the only way i can actually do stuff like this. If i had to pay a shop to do it, i wouldnt be able to afford it.
 
Posted by 5Porn0 (Member # 6001) on :
 
That's bad ass Tony!

However, I'd take the video down because AED will call your employer and tell them that you are working on your own stuff during company time.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
I assure you its after hours and with the managers consent [Smile]
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
Yes ill add that to the build list.....she wasnt too happy witj me last time.lol

That is one good problem to have 😆


[patriot]
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
Nice to see the build coming along bro. 2v FTMFW
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
Going to be another local 600hp 2 valve!
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stanger00:
Going to be another local 600hp 2 valve!

Phuck i hope so! Im only shooting for mid 500s until i get the si upgrade. Dont have the funds for it now, so ill run the strim for the time being
 
Posted by MR. STALLION (Member # 374) on :
 
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

[ 2014-12-08, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: MR. STALLION ]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Update: the motor is all done and installed in the car and runs like a champ! I started putting it in on Saturday and came into work early on Monday to finish it up. It would have been done Saturday but I kept hitting snags, the biggest one being finding a serpentine belt. I guess it wasn't really a snag, but an inconvenience because our parts guy said we could get one quickly. Over an hour later our supplier brought the wrong size, then another hour later they said they haven't left yet. I got tired of waiting and just went down the street to car quest and was back in like 15min. The other snag was having to fight the damn qa1 k-member. The fitment just sucks with that thing. Oh well it's all done now. I just need to install the fuel system and set date to get it tuned.

I tried to make another time laps video and everything was going well until I turned off the camera half way through and forgot to turn it back on. Smh, oops. I do have a "first start" video that I need to edit and upload, ill get to that soon. But here are some pics for now.

The badass IW balancer I got from "yellows281" thanks again bro!
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Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :
 
Toni your the shit!! Can't wait to see you on the freeway or at the strip in that beast
 
Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
Looking good dude! congrats.. Im a couple weekends out myself..I love the IW balancer also..are you 8rib or 6 ? I have never have any issues with my Qa1, i love that damn thing lol

I miss the simplicity of a 2v [worship]

[ 2015-01-07, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: Vndcatr ]
 
Posted by MR. STALLION (Member # 374) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

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Posted by Vndcatr (Member # 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

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Thats Beautiful..
[Eek!] [Cool]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vndcatr:
Looking good dude! congrats.. Im a couple weekends out myself..I love the IW balancer also..are you 8rib or 6 ? I have never have any issues with my Qa1, i love that damn thing lol

I miss the simplicity of a 2v [worship]

Thanks, its exciting being so close to finishing the mach huh.
The balancer is one of my favorite new mods. Its a 8rib balancer but im still 6rib, I plan to go 8rib in the future tho.

I got the kmember used and ive always had issues with it .
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

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Dang that sucks. Seems odd tho, i was under the impression that the trickflow cam journals were replaceable.

It made some great power on 93, curious what it will put down on e85. Are you gonna spin the blower any harder on e85?
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

 -

Dang that sucks. Seems odd tho, i was under the impression that the trickflow cam journals were replaceable.

It made some great power on 93, curious what it will put down on e85. Are you gonna spin the blower any harder on e85?

They are replaceable
[Confused]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

 -

Dang that sucks. Seems odd tho, i was under the impression that the trickflow cam journals were replaceable.

It made some great power on 93, curious what it will put down on e85. Are you gonna spin the blower any harder on e85?

They are replaceable
[Confused]

Yup!! End of first paragraph
http://www.trickflow.com/search.asp?N=400098++4294951917+4294951899+115+340077&autoview=sku
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
Hell yeah man! The mustang will be a whole new animal now.

[patriot]
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
Wow! that is badass man. Congrats on getting this all done. It sounds mean!

Love the time-lapse you did also.
 
Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
[worship] [worship] [worship]
 
Posted by MR. STALLION (Member # 374) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Nice work....we just completed a build on a 2V as well. Same color as yours actually. It's a 2001.
The owner somehow grenaded the stock motor and seized it. No oil was found in the engine when we tore it down. Checkout the video.

We went with:
MMR 900 shortblock(8:5.1)
Trick Flow 195 Heads
Stage 2 MMR Blower Cams
Kenne Bell 2.8Mammoth(18lbs on 93)
ID 1000's
BBK Longtubes
TCI Built SSF Trans
Moser Spool & Axles

BMS: 600hp 2V

Damn that's a pretty cool build. How did you guys like the TF 195 race heads? Always thought it would be cool to get a set of those but thought it would be a lil overkill for my setup....and I couldn't afford them lol.
They actually worked well.....and honestly the real reason we went with these is because the 185's were on backorder and we could not get them. When the car was towed into the shop for this build....it had the 185's on it.
A shop that will remain nameless had installed them 6months prior, and the motor seized up on the customer.
In the vid you can see what we found when taking the motor out.
Metal went completely thru the entir motor, damaging the cam journals, so a new set of heads were mandatory.
Tried to get another set of 185's but none were available....the only thing out was the RACE 195's, and only 1 head was built. We had to wait a month to get the second one.
But they worked out GREAT....along with a set of MMR Blower Cams.

Down the line we're going to run E85 with this car and see how it responds....it's already set up for it, as you see the customer spared no dime in this build, the very best of everything.

 -

Dang that sucks. Seems odd tho, i was under the impression that the trickflow cam journals were replaceable.

It made some great power on 93, curious what it will put down on e85. Are you gonna spin the blower any harder on e85?

Oh yes definitely.....will most likely see 22-24lbs of boost on E85
 
Posted by MR. STALLION (Member # 374) on :
 
Yup!! End of first paragraph
http://www.trickflow.com/search.asp?N=400098++4294951917+4294951899+115+340077&autoview=sku [/QB][/QUOTE]


Yes they are replaceable.....however these heads were far beyond just a journal replacement.
The engine lost oil and locked up. There was metal EVERYWHERE.
Customer did not was to reuse anything from the engine, and neither would I.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE

Hey know that back shop.
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE

Hey know that back shop.
Did you work there too?
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MR. STALLION:
Yup!! End of first paragraph
http://www.trickflow.com/search.asp?N=400098++4294951917+4294951899+115+340077&autoview=sku

Yes they are replaceable.....however these heads were far beyond just a journal replacement.
The engine lost oil and locked up. There was metal EVERYWHERE.
Customer did not was to reuse anything from the engine, and neither would I. [/QB][/QUOTE]
True i didnt think about how bad the oil galleys would be cloged with metal shavings and whatnot. Good call
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE

Hey know that back shop.
Did you work there too?
Yeap from 2002-2004 then at there sister store from 2012-2013
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE

Hey know that back shop.
Did you work there too?
Yeap from 2002-2004 then at there sister store from 2012-2013
Whats tour name?
 
Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
Dyno results are in!!! It made 548hp @6925 and 455ftlb@5250 on 13psi. To be honest I thought it was going to make more boost but oh well. My goal was to hit 550rwhp and it pretty much made that the first pull. Pretty stoked about the power, and it feels good to get on it again!

http://youtu.be/DLBDgP17Xw8

Here is my graph over my last setup
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[ 2015-01-25, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: vortek01gt ]
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
Damn nice numbers there with that boost. With that pulley setup you're right on target with the heads cams and long tubes IMO. I figure once you get used to this and you do the Si or jump to a JT you will be pushing a lot of power! The Si alone with a 3.125" pulley will be at max rpms at 6500 and that should get you damn close to 600 of not more and a JT probably 650 with pump gas boost!
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Congrats Tony!!!
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
tony, very nice cant wait it see what it runs.
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by vortek01gt:
So I finished putting some of the footage together into another video along with a first start clip. The video is kinda long, but there was a lot to do to finish it all up. It would have been longer but I had forgot to turn the camera back on for the installation part. oh well. I also changed up the music too, a lil more what I usually listen to. Enjoy!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rf5WBoLfE

Hey know that back shop.
Did you work there too?
Yeap from 2002-2004 then at there sister store from 2012-2013
Whats tour name?
Dave
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
Seen this yesterday on 680. Sounded pretty nice.

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Posted by vortek01gt (Member # 10149) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stanger00:
Seen this yesterday on 680. Sounded pretty nice.

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Thanks man! You can hella tell in this pic that my rear end is messed up lol. Looks like i got some major camber on the rear wheels......with a sra hahaha. I gotta put in my new rear end
 




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