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Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

is it possible? im running a b303 cam,p heads,exploder intake,3:55s an ford racing headers with a o/r h,and magnapaks. is it attainable??

Posted by arodeast408 (Member # 11335) on :

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Originally posted by 707clone:
is it possible? im running a b303 cam,p heads,exploder intake,3:55s an ford racing headers with a o/r h,and magnapaks. is it attainable??

Only one way to find out but I don't see y not

Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :

slicks and drop it at 3500 on time , u could do it.

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

IF it does then I gotta be mid low 11's

Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :

With 4.10 and a good driver it could be possible

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
slicks and drop it at 3500 on time , u could do it.

you think my tranny will be able to take the 3500 launch??

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
IF it does then I gotta be mid low 11's

i think 98roush said something about a good driver! [Big Grin]

lmao

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

It'll hold I've hit 4500 with DRs no problem

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

Depends on the weight of the vehicle

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
It'll hold I've hit 4500 with DRs no problem

no bullshit? thats the only thing im worried about really. you know my car has more donut miles than driving miles.lol

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

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Originally posted by turbo50:
Depends on the weight of the vehicle

only weight reduction is no carpet or under coating. by the way its a 91 gt.

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

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Originally posted by 707clone:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
It'll hold I've hit 4500 with DRs no problem
no bullshit? thats the only thing im worried about really. you know my car has more donut miles than driving miles.lol

Does this face looks like it bullshit? I'm serious too I was gonna do a famous 5k but damn turbo Honda didn't want anymore of a whoopin after I gave him a car N smoked him haha.

Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :

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Originally posted by 707clone:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
IF it does then I gotta be mid low 11's
i think 98roush said something about a good driver! lmao

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

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Originally posted by 707clone:

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Originally posted by turbo50:
Depends on the weight of the vehicle
only weight reduction is no carpet or under coating. by the way its a 91 gt.

get it to 60 foot like a mo fo and cut more weight and itll go 12s with good valvesprings in the heads............

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

With suspension I don't see why not. I'm trying to get my car to run 12's with e7's

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

this subject has been beat to death..yes you can do it ric..without porting..i believe there are a few people with stock e7s that snuck into the 12's..and some stock eliminator class folks that has done more..

Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :

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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
slicks and drop it at 3500 on time , u could do it.

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

I've done the 5k drop on 4.10s and MT ET streets low 13s with E7 s and stock cats I think with the Ps it could be done easily

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

Fuck yes it is.

Stock 302, Explorer intake, GT40ps, b303, 1.7s, 1-3/4 LTs. 2.73's and bald Mickeys.

Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :

There it is!!!!........and yes change the valve springs and keepers. They are shit stock, and will float at 6000-6200 and up anyways. [patriot]

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

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Originally posted by MikeD.:
Fuck yes it is.

Stock 302, Explorer intake, GT40ps, b303, 1.7s, 1-3/4 LTs. 2.73's and bald Mickeys.

Those are ported and I built that shit.....had 1.7s rockers etc etc

Posted by 84SVOrick (Member # 9039) on :

Ssf50 hit 12.9 on stock heads, cobra intake, 410s and driver mod

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

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Originally posted by dvuspny:
There it is!!!!........and yes change the valve springs and keepers. They are shit stock, and will float at 6000-6200 and up anyways.

How do u even make more power at those RPMs on a 302? Mine stops making power at like 5200, idk if its just kuz it was stock

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

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Originally posted by dvuspny:
There it is!!!!........and yes change the valve springs and keepers. They are shit stock, and will float at 6000-6200 and up anyways.
How do u even make more power at those RPMs on a 302? Mine stops making power at like 5200, idk if its just kuz it was stock

Le camshaft

Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :

Like he said^^^^^ It's all in the cam and valve springs.

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

yea i was thinking about taking my p heads off and sending em to robs machine shop in hayward and getting a 3 or 5 angle valve job, and getting the tfs valve spring kit with a swirl port job. big difference???

Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :

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Originally posted by MikeD.:
Fuck yes it is.

Stock 302, Explorer intake, GT40ps, b303, 1.7s, 1-3/4 LTs. 2.73's and bald Mickeys.

i'll call BS

no way could you 1.94 60' and then get a 105 trap speed with 2.73's on that combo. i bet you sprayed it and dont wanna ante up

cuz it doesnt add up

and to the OP, it'll be tuff on 3.55's too, your relying on RPM and leverage when your under 300 HP, and the 3.55 wont give that to you

with 4.10's and 300 hp you can do mid 12's tho...my '89 did that all day long

13.20's on motor and 12.50's on a 75 shot
all stock motor just 4.10's , long tubes, and on a notch

Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :

well i shouldnt be too cynical.....i should add that ...if your car doesnt weigh 2900 lbs it couldnt do that

he has a full weight GT that should go 3400-3500 with no driver on average

Posted by Jaejae5.0 (Member # 7958) on :

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Originally posted by 707clone:
yea i was thinking about taking my p heads off and sending em to robs machine shop in hayward and getting a 3 or 5 angle valve job, and getting the tfs valve spring kit with a swirl port job. big difference???

Why go that far?..fm machine did my heads fine..valve job new valves..springs etc..but if your gonna do that you might as well pick up a cheap set of edelbrock performers in the for sale section for 600$..jus sayin

Posted by ItzStock (Member # 9665) on :

My friend Mike just ran an 11.5 with a stock bottom end 302 with stock gt-40 heads. And that's ALL MOTOR! No accessories, Manifold, Dominator carb, electric water pump, longtubes, weight reduction and very limited susp mods.

He races at sac raceway for those that don't believe it.

[ July 10, 2012, 07:22 PM: Message edited by: ItzStock ]

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

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Originally posted by nitrous_bob:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MikeD.:
[qb]
no way could you 1.94 60' and then get a 105 trap speed with 2.73's on that combo. i bet you sprayed it and dont wanna ante up

cuz it doesnt add up

and to the OP, it'll be tuff on 3.55's too, your relying on RPM and leverage when your under 300 HP, and the 3.55 wont give that to you

with 4.10's and 300 hp you can do mid 12's tho...my '89 did that all day long

13.20's on motor and 12.50's on a 75 shot
all stock motor just 4.10's , long tubes, and on a notch

Lol, Ok bud. You can ask Turbo50. When I ran those 12 second passes, the car had a stock rear end, 4cyl springs, and stock upper and lower control arms. I bought a 3.55 rear end off Turbo50, and never took it back. That car has never even seen the bottle. If I still had it I'd let you drive it. Granted it had some decently ported P's and a heavily ported Explorer.

Posted by ItzStock (Member # 9665) on :

Here is his 11.9 from last year. He got it down to an 11.5 the last time i was out there a few weeks ago.

All Motor -stock bottom end 302 with stock gt40 heads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U-Jmov-bE0&list=UUmKOpTR0UCsiST3pPRifcUg&index=5&feature=plcp

[ July 10, 2012, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: ItzStock ]

Posted by 707clone (Member # 10342) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ItzStock:
Here is his 11.9 from last year. He got it down to an 11.5 the last time i was out there a few weeks ago.

All Motor -stock bottom end 302 with stock gt40 heads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U-Jmov-bE0&list=UUmKOpTR0UCsiST3pPRifcUg&index=5&feature=plcp

nice vid. and jae,i was gonna get those edelbrocks on here but decided i want to keep the iron heads. if and when i run at the track it wont be often.you already know im more of a donut guy [Frown]

Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :

ok...so NOW we're talking reality

and i quote..........

"Granted it had some decently ported P's and a heavily ported Explorer."

that is NOT a stock explorer, stock p heads and 2.73 setup

so thank you...and yeah....i was right

im 20+ YEARS IN THIS 5.0 GAME , i know what works

why you would run a 2.73 is far far far beyond me, but im curious to see the time slips on that

and yes...still calling BS.....what else you gonna cough up?

heres my timeslip from my 1995 non pi headded 5.0 vert aod

all stock and 2.73's, 87 octane and 8* timing

Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :

don't be a engine stand racer dude lol. being a dyno queen, or time slip pimp all suck. enjoy your car, and do the best it can do.

Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :

You know what...no comment

It takes a Good 260-275 hp to move 3100 lbs into the 12's

Every 100 lbs more is a tenth slower, and most gt's with a driver tag in about 3600

OP asked about his setup

[ July 11, 2012, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: nitrous_bob ]

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

Yup got me buddy! I was on a super budget, and didn't have te money for gears at the time. Just wanted to see what it would do down the 1320. But really I have nothing to his. That cars long gone. It ran titties, and for what was done it was a freak.

Honest to god (althought I don't believe in that bs) that car never saw spray, and never went down te track with anything other than 2.73s.

Posted by 85staNg302 (Member # 9450) on :

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Originally posted by nitrous_bob:
haha...ok

of all the states who have the slowest cars......

no more coming from me

keep getting "sweet" info amongst yourselves

later guys.....i might pop in yearly from now on

howd that lawsuit go duncan ?

I ran 12.50 on e7s all motor no spray
[Wink]

Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :

I have been 11.80 with unported E7's, stock unported intake and throttle body. There are a handfull of guys out there running 10.6-10.9 with unported E7's and GT-40 style heads.... all N/A.

12's is not a problem for the average guy with minimal effort. Most are just too lazy to try. It's nice to see a few on here trying to push stock parts while others take the easy way out.

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

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Originally posted by nitrous_bob:
ok...so NOW we're talking reality

and i quote..........

"Granted it had some decently ported P's and a heavily ported Explorer."

that is NOT a stock explorer, stock p heads and 2.73 setup

so thank you...and yeah....i was right

im 20+ YEARS IN THIS 5.0 GAME , i know what works

why you would run a 2.73 is far far far beyond me, but im curious to see the time slips on that

and yes...still calling BS.....what else you gonna cough up?

heres my timeslip from my 1995 non pi headded 5.0 vert aod

all stock and 2.73's, 87 octane and 8* timing

maybe on small nitrous if it really was all stock.

And Mike D.s car goes with those timeslips but the p heads are ported as was the intake...still hella budget I think he gave me 600 and a stock motor for that motor and I had to ring and bearing it, again.... lol

Nitrous bob know your shit but Mikey is legit

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:

quote:
Originally posted by nitrous_bob:
ok...so NOW we're talking reality

and i quote..........

"Granted it had some decently ported P's and a heavily ported Explorer."

that is NOT a stock explorer, stock p heads and 2.73 setup

so thank you...and yeah....i was right

im 20+ YEARS IN THIS 5.0 GAME , i know what works

why you would run a 2.73 is far far far beyond me, but im curious to see the time slips on that

and yes...still calling BS.....what else you gonna cough up?

heres my timeslip from my 1995 non pi headded 5.0 vert aod

all stock and 2.73's, 87 octane and 8* timing

maybe on small nitrous if it really was all stock.

And Mike D.s car goes with those timeslips but the p heads are ported as was the intake...still hella budget I think he gave me 600 and a stock motor for that motor and I had to ring and bearing it, again.... lol

Nitrous bob know your shit but Mikey is legit

Hey, I gave you 600, a stock motor and another set of gt40ps...

I am forever grateful of that though lol

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