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Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

[Mad]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

you realize where you are posting this right?

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

Yes sir.

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by DLo:
Yes sir.

oh ok..because you probably just lost 95% of your audience... [Smile]

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :

Yay i get to pay for someones healthcare.... *ballin*

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs. [Cool]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.

Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us

Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?

Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :

Hey dont sweat it guys. Its only the largest tax increase in the history of the world.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/09/obama-mandate-is-not-a-tax/

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?

Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care

Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :

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Originally posted by phonso302:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?
Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care

Nothing in life is free.

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

Yep. Those of us that paid attention in junior high economics will remember, TINSTAFL.

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

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Originally posted by phonso302:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?
Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care

They use the term free a little loosely, now we get to pay for illegal immigrants and vagrants health care
[Mad]

Posted by kingdavid (Member # 11179) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?

+1 Obama Care is extortion on american citizens.

Posted by DEVERO2 (Member # 6155) on :

Hell in a hand basket on a rocket ship. I love paying for others. im going to keep my 8-5 and stand on a corner from 5-8. makes sense. and i have a family small business. no lube or warning for me getting fucked.

Posted by cemelevu (Member # 10601) on :

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Originally posted by DLo:
Yep. Those of us that paid attention in junior high economics will remember, TINSTAFL.

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by phonso302:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?
Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care
They use the term free a little loosely, now we get to pay for illegal immigrants and vagrants health care

Well we already pay for everything else....lol

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

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Originally posted by phonso302:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by phonso302:

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:

quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?
Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care
They use the term free a little loosely, now we get to pay for illegal immigrants and vagrants health care

Well we already pay for everything else....lol

Yep and now we are privileged with paying even more, fuck these assholes who think they know what's best for us.

[ June 28, 2012, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Greasy ]

Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :

Let's just have everything be private and for profit, including police and fire. I shouldn't have to pay taxes for other people's faulty home wiring. Let their house burn down, it's their own fault. I also live in a good neighborhood, why should I pay for police when most of the crime isn't even in my area?

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

I don't have any faith in this country going back to the path that the founding fathers laid for us. If you ask me, my generation is full of spoiled brats who think everything should be handed to them on a silver platter. Even when I compare myself to my father, he was 10x more successful and hardworking than I am. These people believe they are entitled to health care.

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by phonso302:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Probably. I guess most people don't care as long as they can wake up in the morning, go to work, and drive their mustangs.
Truth...

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
Me too, this is bullshit. Do they realize that America is getting ran further and further into the ground?
Some people dont care because now they will be getting "free" health care
They use the term free a little loosely, now we get to pay for illegal immigrants and vagrants health care

We all ready pay for that. Who do you think pays for the e-room visits? not the illegals.

Posted by DEVERO2 (Member # 6155) on :

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Originally posted by DLo:
I don't have any faith in this country going back to the path that the founding fathers laid for us. If you ask me, my generation is full of spoiled brats who think everything should be handed to them on a silver platter. Even when I compare myself to my father, he was 10x more successful and hardworking than I am. These people believe they are entitled to health care.

x100000000000000000000000000000000

well said. fucking entitlement has run its course and I am not sure we can recover

Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :

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Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.

Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wolfie351:
Let's just have everything be private and for profit, including police and fire. I shouldn't have to pay taxes for other people's faulty home wiring. Let their house burn down, it's their own fault. I also live in a good neighborhood, why should I pay for police when most of the crime isn't even in my area?

Fuck yes you should! This is the problem. No body want to pay any more than what they think is fair! If it pays for schools, police, fire, i have no problems paying taxes for that stuff. Now pos on welfare milking the system, or illegals getting free care on my dime is bullshit.

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.
Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!

Your crazy a lot will change in ca

Taxes / gun rights / carb laws / price of goods / gas prices.

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.
Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!

better hope obama wins. the gop wants to turn us back to the 1800's church state! have you seen mitt's ideas? if you have and don't think he is more fucked up the obama, you are just as bad as the people with blinders on!

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

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Originally posted by phonso302:

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.
Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!
Your crazy a lot will change in ca

Taxes / gun rights / carb laws / price of goods / gas prices.

Taxes will continue to go up, gun rights are going away, C.A.R.B is getting stricter, price of goods is going up, and gas is obviously going through the roof.

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by Wolfie351:
Let's just have everything be private and for profit, including police and fire. I shouldn't have to pay taxes for other people's faulty home wiring. Let their house burn down, it's their own fault. I also live in a good neighborhood, why should I pay for police when most of the crime isn't even in my area?
Fuck yes you should! This is the problem. No body want to pay any more than what they think is fair! If it pays for schools, police, fire, i have no problems paying taxes for that stuff. Now pos on welfare milking the system, or illegals getting free care on my dime is bullshit.

This.

Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.
Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!
better hope obama wins. the gop wants to turn us back to the 1800's church state! have you seen mitt's ideas? if you have and don't think he is more fucked up the obama, you are just as bad as the people with blinders on!

Belive me man I'm not down with Mitt, just saying CA as run into the ground as it is continues to vote for the same people just take a look at your reps congressmen etc. here they keep focusing on free loaders welfare and illegals while our dumb asses go to work 40+ hours a week and pay taxes. CA needs a huge change and it ain't happening!

And the supreme court 5-4 lol way to clearly represent the nation, they need to overhaul that system ASAP, every republican elects super conservative asshole judges and vice verse with the Dems, that shit doesn't represent me how bout you?

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.
Yeah that is the problem though this country and especially this state is filled with too many liberal pussies and free loaders or stupid ass state workers who live in a bubble and don't care about anyone in the private sector, just take a look at CA, no matter how many stupid laws they pass no matter how many taxes they raise no matter how many people have been laid off in the last 5 years this state continues to blindly vote for people like Jerry and Diane again and again, this November is not gong to be any different Obama and friends will win the presidential nomination in CA just as Dems have have for the last 20+ years and nothing will change in CA!
better hope obama wins. the gop wants to turn us back to the 1800's church state! have you seen mitt's ideas? if you have and don't think he is more fucked up the obama, you are just as bad as the people with blinders on!
Belive me man I'm not down with Mitt, just saying CA as run into the ground as it is continues to vote for the same people just take a look at your reps congressmen etc. here they keep focusing on free loaders welfare and illegals while our dumb asses go to work 40+ hours a week and pay taxes. CA needs a huge change and it ain't happening!

And the supreme court 5-4 lol way to clearly represent the nation, they need to overhaul that system ASAP, every republican elects super conservative asshole judges and vice verse with the Dems, that shit doesn't represent me how bout you?

I understand. i can't see how so many people keep voting in these, for lack of a better word, retards. fuck get some new blood in there.

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

If we could stop these guys from being carrer politicians & have real world representation in government. Like retired folks who have worked 40+ hour weeks, all different types of jobs...... Not spoiled Ivy Leage grands who THINK they know what's best for the working man.

Lastly everyone of these politicians shouldn't be receiving lifetime medical, retirement & a xxx,xxx.00 salary!!!!!!
Especially when they get these even if they only get elected to one term. If anyone should be taking a paycut and being demonized by the media it should be the people who got us into this mess.

Posted by Stang66 (Member # 10504) on :

wow, we should just get rid of welfare, and reform prison systems, no point to keep a criminal alive if he has a lifetime sentence,we need death sentences again,plus they get better medical then us for being incarcerated

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

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Originally posted by Stang66:
wow, we should just get rid of welfare, and reform prison systems, no point to keep a criminal alive if he has a lifetime sentence,we need death sentences again,plus they get better medical then us for being incarcerated

Maybe we should. Which great man said this: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :

It's just too bad that, for too many people, logic is outweighed by emotion when taking into consideration some pretty important decisions.

I guess I look at other systems - like the welfare system and the penal system - and wonder how, with socialized medicine, how will the 'societal leeches' find incentive to take care of themselves, when other peoples' hard-earned dollars will do it for them?

It would be great were it to be an opt-in/opt-out idea, where you could choose whether to enroll in this system. This could provide an 'escape' for the reasonable/accountable hard-workers out there to take care of themselves while not being forced to pay for someone unwilling to get motivated to do the same.

At the same time, some level of state involvement is necessary for those incapable of taking care of themselves - the destitute, the physically/mentally disabled, and children of the state. Other than that, I don't see why we as taxpayers should shoulder much of the burden placed upon us by people simply looking for handouts or free care.

Thoughts?

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

^ I am slowback67 and I approve this post. [patriot]

Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :

congrats to all the broke bustedass fools with 7 kids and no insurance

Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.

This and this

Posted by nitrous_bob (Member # 77) on :

quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us

25% of what your employer pays for your healthcare

typically a PPO health plan is $1900/month for a family

thats like $22800/year for healthcare

so you'll owe an additional $5700 in taxes from now on or about
$2.74 an hour until healthcare costs go up.

to give you an idea...that same family plan was about $1000 in 2005, so its almost doubled in 7 years

quote:
you realize where you are posting this right?

wow...just cuz your a democrat DOESNT mean you should BLINDLY support a stupid program, if thats what that statement meant

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

Ayn Rand FTW. She's laughing in her grave, hollering I told you so!!

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

quote:
Originally posted by nitrous_bob:

quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

I'm just wondering what this "tax" is going to cost us
25% of what your employer pays for your healthcare

typically a PPO health plan is $1900/month for a family

thats like $22800/year for healthcare

so you'll owe an additional $5700 in taxes from now on or about
$2.74 an hour until healthcare costs go up.

to give you an idea...that same family plan was about $1000 in 2005, so its almost doubled in 7 years

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you realize where you are posting this right?
wow...just cuz your a democrat DOESNT mean you should BLINDLY support a stupid program, if thats what that statement meant

I believe that statement was because it's getting posted on CAFords, where most of the members care about "swangin" their cars and not real life shit that will affect their lives.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Well the only way to fix this is to get some of these cocksuckers out on the senate, house of rep & the white house....... Maybe replace a few supreme justice's over the next decade and we might be able to keep this country afloat.

It's gonna be a huge wake up call come november for everyone. This next election is going to give us a look at what direction this country really wants to go.
End up like Europe or try and stay on the path our founding fathers laid for us.

Amen!

Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :

I think almost all of us would agree that politicians are crooks....correct?!
So if you take a bunch of legal crooks (if that makes any sense) and put them together now you have a legal criminal enterprise.
Now since you have this enterprise put together that works for agendas that are good for them, how do you expect this to work for us (the people)?
This is why there is no end to politics and the problems it creates, it's not for the people! If it was for the people we wouldn't have all this nonsense and bullshit that we do. Whichever side you pick to vote DEM or GOP it's the same thing, your screwed by either side.
It's the perfect scheme, brilliant actually...its fooled us for a long long time.

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :

I know get to trade my cadillac health plan for a county clinic...

The working man is a sucker...... smh [Frown]

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
I think almost all of us would agree that politicians are crooks....correct?!
So if you take a bunch of legal crooks (if that makes any sense) and put them together now you have a legal criminal enterprise.
Now since you have this enterprise put together that works for agendas that are good for them, how do you expect this to work for us (the people)?
This is why there is no end to politics and the problems it creates, it's not for the people! If it was for the people we wouldn't have all this nonsense and bullshit that we do. Whichever side you pick to vote DEM or GOP it's the same thing, your screwed by either side.
It's the perfect scheme, brilliant actually...its fooled us for a long long time.

You've got that right. There is no Republicans and Democrats. They are Repubicrats and Democans, all the same. Scumbags.

Posted by sinisterblk (Member # 8425) on :

^ They are all fucking demagogues, if you don't know the meaning look it up, it epitomizes career politicians. What's funny is we were founded by folks that knew too big of govt was a bad deal.

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