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Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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First and formost I want to thank Jason and mike at TPS these guys called me up one day and asked me if I was looking for a k-member kit. It's so crazy cuz I was. So we sat down and talked. I dealt with this shop on my tranny issues
And some other stuff. We were talking and Jason told
me that grenatelli has a good kit and it also converts the front to coil over, also A arms. So I did it I took my car out last night after picking it up and man oh man all the noise I have been hearing are gone im stoked.
I've been in a lot of cars with k-member swaps and they do not feel this good. It literally feels brand new car and strong. I really recommend calling Jason up at TPS and talking to them. They got the best deals
On k-member coil over kits. I guarantee nobody can match.
TEAM FAST all damn day.
[ December 20, 2011, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: Slowmo ]
Posted by SSSSIKH (Member # 8397) on
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good to know!
i been looking into K-member swaps lately, but want to do everything at once, a-arms, coil overs, etc...
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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Jason I'm telling you this kit is a bad ass kit for how much it cost. I did the whole setup you want and shaved off 100 pounds. If you want to see it go on There website and look under 03 mach1 and it's the black one thats kris. It's got pics all up. I even went with full hime joint tow way adj upper and the lowers to match. It's a nice package. Now I can put in my long tubes with no problem.
Posted by BIG KEITH (Member # 6523) on
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Time to tear up the streets again!! ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
TPS def hooked u up bruh ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posted by poisonpony96 (Member # 3942) on
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From what I've read granitelli is an extremely cheap knockoff off maximum Motorsports. With lots of failures. Research it. It's all over the net. I don't know if stuff has changed but there has been many accounts of catastrophic failure.
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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Ive been in all fords with all types of k-members , kenny brown,maxium motor, even some high 8 sec cars on and everybody complained about the driveability. Bro my whole car is a budget build.Maximun kit is almost twice as expensive and FYI I think this sport is all about money and for the price these guys are selling them for its perfect for the budget man. I'm only promoting this setup cuz I like it and they did give me a player deal. I think 2k plus tax is what mike and Jason are letting them go installed. So I'll be out here running my cheap knock off kit. I'll keep everybody posted on the results.
Ya Keith you know how we do it out here. They did hook me
Like I was a family member. Good shit TPS.
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on
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FYI, there's a website that sells granatelli's Platinum K-member kit for about $700. It's basically the entire front end if I'm not mistaken. I too researched them and read too many bad things about the quality so I stayed away. I wish you luck with your setup though.
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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Yea it's always a gamble with a cheaper kit . I got was the full drag one and also got there fully adj upper control arms and there lower control arms also. Its all warranted work and parts. Well if you know me I beat hard on my car when I do drive it. So I'll be the ginnie pig if I can't brake it on my setup then It's a solid kit. Im happy with it.
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on
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Good shit kris. I want to check your car out. I'll be going to the track next month if your down. Just want to get a baseline et.
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on
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Avoid potholes, good luck.
Posted by g-ride14 (Member # 9143) on
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What spring rate and height did you go with?
Did you go with standard length a arms or fox body ones?
Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on
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good shit kris!
Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on
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Looks like the kit is 689 with free shipping from.here
http://www.jdsperformance.com/index.asp?initemuid=1179&fcmd=item&inmake=0
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on
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Originally posted by Beastly GT500 TVS:
Looks like the kit is 689 with free shipping from.here
http://www.jdsperformance.com/index.asp?initemuid=1179&fcmd=item&inmake=0
Thats what I was saying... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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So are we still guaranteed that there price can't be beat.
Posted by g-ride14 (Member # 9143) on
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So the TPS deal looks like $700 for parts + 13 hours of labor @ 100/hr + tax. Does it really take that long? I've never installed one.
[ December 21, 2011, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: g-ride14 ]
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on
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I get the kit for $500 to my door.
I thought you did your own work Slowmo that is why I told Beasty5.0 that maybe you can help him out but I guess not.
I am goin to start sending cars to TPS to get tuned so I aint hatin just askin.........
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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Their standard length and I got the drag package ones I would have to look at it when I get home
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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Dan I do all my own work Forsure bro. TPS wanted to install it as part of the deal I got. I have missed beasty5.0 once last week end. I'll make it right with him I've already talk to him. Twice. Damn Dan I didn't know you were sending people
My way.
Posted by g-ride14 (Member # 9143) on
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Originally posted by Slowmo:
Their standard length and I got the drag package ones I would have to look at it when I get home
I looked it up. There 175/lb.
What struts are you going with?
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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I got strange 10ways all the way around
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on
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Originally posted by Slowmo:
Dan I do all my own work Forsure bro. TPS wanted to install it as part of the deal I got. I have missed beasty5.0 once last week end. I'll make it right with him I've already talk to him. Twice. Damn Dan I didn't know you were sending people
My way.
I'm very booked and south bay folks are quite a ways from me. I see if it was part of a deal or u were too booked yourself.
Happy holidays
Posted by g-ride14 (Member # 9143) on
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Originally posted by Slowmo:
I got strange 10ways all the way around
Nice.
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on
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Thanks for the props Kris....
Always willing to take care of good customers when it's needed.
We have just begun carrying all of Granatelli's stuff, and I offered Slomo a package deal with install just so he could give me feedback on how it performs and if he likes it. I always like to hear first hand on how things are rather than heresay or the internet.
Granetelli has redesigned all of their suspension parts(as you see it says on the link provided by "Beastly"). I too have read and heard the issues they have had in the past, and complaints.
I carry Granetelli stuff now because they have redesigned it and i'm even going to be installing it into one of my fox's.
I carry Maximum Motorsports, UPR, AJE, Racecraft, QA1, BMR, Steeda, ETC....and install them all.
Granetelli seems to work real well, and is an option for those guys(as Slomo said) who are doing budget builds trying not to go bankrupt on a project.
Slomo received:
Energy Suspension Polyurethane Motor Mounts
Granetelli Motorsports Kmember Kit(Drag)
Granetelli Motorsports Tubular A-Arms w/sway bar delete
Granetelli Motorsports Rear Adjustable UCA's
Granetelli Motorsports Rear LCA's(weight jacker)
Granetelli Motorsports Front Coilover Kit with 175 spring rate(drag)
Also, the kmembers dont take 13hrs to install. It takes 6-8 and has to be plummed correctly.
I've seen alot of guys just bolt these in and go, but it needs to be plummed as you see in this pic in order to be set straight and true. Especially if you drag race.
http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/gallery/var/resizes/Ford-Mustangs/2005-2009-Mustangs/Sal's-Techco-Supercharged-GT/IMG_0445.JPG
[ December 21, 2011, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: STEED ]
Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on
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good job J and good deal
Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on
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Hey ef are you gonna a k memeber?
Posted by TTNITEMARE (Member # 11529) on
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Originally posted by Slowmo:
First and foremost I want to thank Jason and mike at TPS these guys called me up one day and asked me if I was looking for a k-member kit. It's so crazy cuz I was. So we sat down and talked. I dealt with this shop on my tranny issues
And some other stuff. We were talking and Jason told
me that grenatelli has a good kit and it also converts the front to coil over, also A arms. So I did it I took my car out last night after picking it up and man oh man all the noise I have been hearing are gone im stoked.
I've been in a lot of cars with k-member swaps and they do not feel this good. It literally feels brand new car and strong. I really recommend calling Jason up at TPS and talking to them. They got the best deals
On k-member coil over kits. I guarantee nobody can match.
TEAM FAST all damn day.
Dude – I know you will be happy with your GMS stuff. I have had mine for 3 years and no issues. Don’t listen to all that BS about cheap copy and yadda yadda. Granitelli makes nice stuff. So does Maximum but they think their parts are made out of unobtainium. As long as there are guys out there that think $600 k-members are better than $400 parts when they look and operate the same, MM will have a place in this world. Normally I would say there is room for both. I have read links about who engineered what but lets be honest, we are all past that now. Like I said I have had my stuff for 3 years and the stories of bad GMS stuff is old news. In fact, I have never seen or read anything about a broken Granitlli K-member, A-arms or coil over conversion.
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Originally posted by poisonpony96:
From what I've read granitelli is an extremely cheap knockoff off maximum Motorsports. With lots of failures. Research it. It's all over the net. I don't know if stuff has changed but there has been many accounts of catastrophic failure.
This is exactly what I am talking about – What makes it cheap? Like Slowmo said this stuff fits and works perfect. In fact he is saying it is totally road complaint and makes no noise, I have never read that about MM or griggs. I am not saying GMS is better or worse than any other system – What I am saying is I have yet to see a company to shows up on the message boards like Granitelli and actually takes an interest in us. – To me that says a ton. I did research it and looked all over the net. It looks like the same guys chase Granitelli site to site and like a fool he keeps defending himself and bringing himself down to their level. If Granitelli ignored the BS bad news and let it die he would do better. Sadly he is so into trying to help (his words not mine) I think he perpetuates his own death and demise sometimes. Last catastrophic failure. I have read about old rusty rear lower control arms but they don’t even look like the GMS stuff - it just looks like people saying it is his. I am sure GMS has had problems we all do. My first set of coil overs came from Maximum MS and after 1000 or so miles all the threads wore out off the threads portion that slid over the shocks. They told me I did not adjust them right. I said Chicane installed them and they referred me to them. They told me tough sh-t not their problem. I purchased Griggs stuff from another dealer and reported it back to my friends on corner carvers. Next thing I knew, all my posts were pulled and Maximum said if I gave then the bad stuff they would send me new parts. I sold the new stuff back to Chicane. You can’t say anything good about Granatelli on the corral and not get blasted and if you say anything bad about MM they pull the posts as if it never happened. – Props to MM for having that kind of influence on the boards but bad for us cuz we never know the truth.
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Originally posted by g-ride14:
What spring rate and height did you go with?
Did you go with standard length a arms or fox body ones?
I had 14” long by 175 lbs. But changed over to 12” x 250 and was much happier
Posted by Slowmo (Member # 9712) on
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I love my kit. I drove 100 miles today with no problems. I love the kit. It's feels awesome. It is a good deal and I stand by it. Thank you TPS all day
Posted by TTNITEMARE (Member # 11529) on
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20,000+ miles and still happy too
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on
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Does the kit push the front wheels forward 3/4" sounds like a killer deal and for half the price and what's do need to do to plum? Measure from corner to corner? I've been thinking of doing a kmember swap also to shave some lbs off the car and does the kit require a kmember brace like mm?
Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on
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Originally posted by Beastly GT500 TVS:
Hey ef are you gonna a k memeber?
WaSnt planning on it. But we will see what happens down the road. Well down the road haha
Posted by TTNITEMARE (Member # 11529) on
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Does the kit push the front wheels forward 3/4" sounds like a killer deal and for half the price and what's do need to do to plum? Measure from corner to corner? I've been thinking of doing a kmember swap also to shave some lbs off the car and does the kit require a kmember brace like mm?
I think it comes with the brace you are asking about - mine did. But you don't need it. I ran it in the begining and when i changed over to a bigger Canton oil pan I had to take it off - the GMS k-member is so tough - you don't need that extra brace ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on
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Originally posted by TTNITEMARE:
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Does the kit push the front wheels forward 3/4" sounds like a killer deal and for half the price and what's do need to do to plum? Measure from corner to corner? I've been thinking of doing a kmember swap also to shave some lbs off the car and does the kit require a kmember brace like mm?
I think it comes with the brace you are asking about - mine did. But you don't need it. I ran it in the begining and when i changed over to a bigger Canton oil pan I had to take it off - the GMS k-member is so tough - you don't need that extra brace
This is true....it comes with the brace, and can be removed if you ran a large pan.
Glad to hear the kit is going good slomo.
If everyone on the net actually knew the TRUE story behind Granetelli/Maximum/Griggs you'd all be quite surprised.
I will not knock any of these company's as in my opinion they all make GREAT products.....but when heresay is thrown out to purposely bash a company with absolutely NO EVIDENCE or proof, it's pretty sad.
Posted by *BlownMach1* (Member # 5400) on
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Sounds like u overpaid by a lot! Especially considering it's granatelli crap!! They suck, always have sucked. Their customer service sucks. When ur parts break and they WILL NOT return/exchange it. Then please post so u can let everyone know! Notice how I said when not IF! I can post some nasty pics of granetelli parts that have broke on customers cars that I fixed, and they WOULD NOT even exchange them! So only dealers I will use/install now are MM and UPR!!! Both companies stand by their products 100%. as does steeda who once sent me a brand new tri-ax for a customer that didn't even have his original recipt! They are smart enough to not want a bad name on the Internet! Def not the case with granetelli!
[ January 10, 2012, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: *BlownMach1* ]
Posted by *BlownMach1* (Member # 5400) on
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Oh and nothing against TPS, they do great work! But poor choice in those parts!!! And steed, I can and will post several pics of broken granettell parts! All from cars that have never seen the track or could even run faster then 12.5s at best!! Just street cars that the parts could not hold up to! Plain and simple. Going down the track a few times no matter how fast it is VS. Hard daily driven street miles!!
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on
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Originally posted by TTNITEMARE:
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Does the kit push the front wheels forward 3/4" sounds like a killer deal and for half the price and what's do need to do to plum? Measure from corner to corner? I've been thinking of doing a kmember swap also to shave some lbs off the car and does the kit require a kmember brace like mm?
I think it comes with the brace you are asking about - mine did. But you don't need it. I ran it in the begining and when i changed over to a bigger Canton oil pan I had to take it off - the GMS k-member is so tough - you don't need that extra brace
Are you some kind of engineer, how do you know how "tough" it is smart guy. Did you test it to see if it flexes under load with or without the brace? Probably not. The reason Granatelli's crap fits well is because they copied the design of MM and the reason it's cheaper is because they have it manufactured in China. That's bullshit, the company ripped off an idea and then manufactures it in another country for pennies on the dollar. How about you save a few extra duckets and buy American.
Here's a fact for you. Tube steel is square tubing that is used in structural steel buildings. It is manufactured from flat stock, bent into a tube shape and then the seam is welded. By law tube steel manufactured in China and Korea has to have the seam weld ultra sonically tested before it is allowed on construction sites in California. Why, because the welds fail, not all the time, but they do fail. That's how shitty the manufacturing is in China and that's who makes your cheap, knock off parts. But they are super tough in your opinion so it's all good.
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on
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Posted by *BlownMach1* (Member # 5400) on
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Love it when guys come on here with 3 posts and act like they know it all. Glad your granetelli crap works for you, not gonna be the case always. If every single one broke they would not be in business. Fact is some do because it's made cheaply. And I run UPR on several cars we have built and never had a issue! They are around the same price but made from chromeally in AMERICA and are tried n true. I have also ran a few AJE with no issue but found a few things I don't like as much as UPR. And much more money!
Posted by TTNITEMARE (Member # 11529) on
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What the heck? Why does it all have to go back to a bashing session? You guys are crazy. The SLOWMO came here to speak of a great part and great service. That is it. I jumped in and said I am happy as well. That is it.
All of a sudden some idiot jumps in and starts talking about construction sites. I am a Granatelli customer and have not had any issues with my suspension stuff. I did have a problem with Granatelli's DiabloSport tuner and they exchanged it. All I did was pay shipping to them and they even paid the shipping back. I had a bushing fail once on a Steeda part and they said you're closer to Energy Suspension then we are, call them and they will warranty it for you direct. While they were nice about it - making me call Energy was a bit BS-ish if you ask me. I still would buy from Steeda because I understood the salesman’s hands were tied - he was just relaying what his boss told him. If you speak with Dario the owner of Steeda at an event you will never go back he acts like he knows it all but then again that is why he has a staff. That way they do all the work and he gets all the money
The Granatelli CHINA thing is a dead issue ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
get over it. My take Granatelli has been around forever, they made a k-member before anyone else, at some point they changed the design and now it looks more like a MM. Please don’t play the R&D "we engineered it first" card. It is not a moving part and if you back out the same few guys that seem to follow GMS around the overwhelming majority are happy. Over on the corral there was a guy Y2KGT or something that said he has raced with a GMS K-member for a while and whipped up on just about everyone he came across. He said he crashed the car, taco'd the rim and the K-member and A-arms are still intact ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
What more do you want? Please if you don’t have nice things then say nothing - or if you have a first hand issue state your case. To say you have tons of friends with issues - Don't we all? I wish I had a better looking wife and a fancier looking car. May as well get a better house.
If my wife reads this, my girl friend and I will be living in the stang, at least I know the front end will be in great shape
[ January 30, 2012, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: TTNITEMARE ]
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on
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Some interesting articles on Granatelli products:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25368
http://forums.corral.net/forums/lounge/1338152-you-can-lock-granatelli-thread-but.html
http://vtecf.tw/mustang/gms-v-mm-k-member/
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Some interesting articles on Granatelli products:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25368
http://forums.corral.net/forums/lounge/1338152-you-can-lock-granatelli-thread-but.html
http://vtecf.tw/mustang/gms-v-mm-k-member/
Made me not to get that kit I think I'll get the upr kit instead although I would like the mm kit it's to pricey
Posted by Dubbz (Member # 11662) on
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Good to know TPS does good work. I didn't realize it but I live 5 minutes from their shop and stopped by to talk to them the other day. I don't remember the guy I talked to but he was sitting at the counter. Seemed like a really cool and straight-forward guy. While I would love to do everything to my car on my own I know there are things I can't do because I don't have the room to work and in some cases the knowledge. Plus its my daily driver so I can't afford for it to be down for to long.
Posted by TTNITEMARE (Member # 11529) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Some interesting articles on Granatelli products:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25368
http://forums.corral.net/forums/lounge/1338152-you-can-lock-granatelli-thread-but.html
http://vtecf.tw/mustang/gms-v-mm-k-member/
Really 2005 - you had to go back to 2005 on your 1st one
2nd one - The customer in question basically admits he is so unmechanical that he used the wrong bolts and spacers and Granatelli sent him the right ones. That thread is muddy because of all the bashers. If you read the first and 2nd to last it says he is not happy and then end with Granatelli "chris to be exact" made good on everything
3rd thread is clearly a MM guy that in fact did noting but to help Granatelli. While he takes a negative tone he basically proves Granatelli has the same parts as Maximum for a 1/4 the cost. He also says his real issue was Art's Parts screwed him on A-arms but blamed JD's and Granatelli for not delivering. Therefore he purchased MM A-arms. And the fit the Granatelli parts as well.
The point....everything has a slant. I read most of all 3 threads and came away with Granatelli is an idiot for arguing with morons that don’t even have his products and the ones that do have them seem to always end the threads by saying GMS was solid and made good on Everything. That goes along way with me. Naturally I am biased as I have Granatelli parts on my Sang and they have never let me down. - Just like the guy that first posted here before more idiots showed up that also don’t have Granatelli stuff and muddied up the thread
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on
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All right guys lets kill this post. If you have any complaints with Granatelli I will give you the address to a six year old boy in china.
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on
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Originally posted by Adam5.0:
All right guys lets kill this post. If you have any complaints with Granatelli I will give you the address to a six year old boy in china.
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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Wow gms should stand for gay male service, what a bunch of forum fags, lol. Thanks again mods!!!
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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If granatelli gave a shit about their quality they should invest time and money making their shit better instead of trolling forums to sell their shit with bogus opinions. That's downright fraudulent and evil. Fuck off now gms ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
If granatelli gave a shit about their quality they should invest time and money making their shit better instead of trolling forums to sell their shit with bogus opinions. That's downright fraudulent and evil. Fuck off now gms
lmaoooo d&d ftw
Posted by 92LxHatch (Member # 11387) on
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team z IS THE BEST KIT OUT FOR PRICE AND QUALITY
Posted by 408LIGHTNING (Member # 7447) on
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Originally posted by 92LxHatch:
team z IS THE BEST KIT OUT FOR PRICE AND QUALITY
+1
Posted by SS396 chevelle (Member # 7277) on
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Originally posted by Eddie510-:
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
If granatelli gave a shit about their quality they should invest time and money making their shit better instead of trolling forums to sell their shit with bogus opinions. That's downright fraudulent and evil. Fuck off now gms
lmaoooo d&d ftw
d@d shut is doors down years ago
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on
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this thread is lol
good work to the mods though if the nitemare guy was a Granetelli employee.
I sell Maximum, Grnetelli, UPR, GRIGGS, etc....it's your choice on what you want. Origonal poster was just giving his opinion.
I will say though.....over the years the Granetelli bashing has been also done by employees on other forums by rival companies....just like you saw HERE....including Maximum.
All the company's are great and make good stuff, but most people get info from forums anyway, so hey....do what you want and happy modding lol
[ February 21, 2012, 12:11 AM: Message edited by: STEED ]
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